Can the nonelect ever be born-again? (2 Kings 22:27) With the elect thou wilt be elect: and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.
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But thats the problem with your God. All of My Gods attributes are in synch.
See, there you go with your propaganda again.
Your God tortures people forever.
My God gave those people an out. if they would have accepted it. So in effect. they have no one to blame but themselves. God is justified BECAUSE HE PAID THEIR DEBT, Your God did not.
They are there because they did not believe.. Not because God did nto die for them
See, there you go with your propaganda again.
Your God tortures people forever.
My God gave those people an out. if they would have accepted it. So in effect. they have no one to blame but themselves. God is justified BECAUSE HE PAID THEIR DEBT, Your God did not.
They are there because they did not believe.. Not because God did nto die for them
Wow, thanks brother. You've found a treasure trove of theological wisdom . I've bookmarked the site, and I'll definitely benefit from reading what all those Church Fathers wrote for our benefit.
I'm amazed it's free, I suppose the families of all those great men of God are also deceased so that literature became available with no royalties attached in the public domain.
I'm amazed it's free, I suppose the families of all those great men of God are also deceased so that literature became available with no royalties attached in the public domain.
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The god of love doesn't exist, I've never heard of this character. Where did you find him? let me guess he's that evil wicked god who loves child rapists and protects them and fights for their right to continue raping children and drinking their blood.
If you serve that god then you're actually serving Satan in disguise.
My God on the other hand is the God of the Bible, He hates child rapists and child murderers. So my God hates your god because your god loves and protects evil doers while he does nothing the help the poor children being raped and murdered. Can you see why I hate your god of love.
If you serve that god then you're actually serving Satan in disguise.
My God on the other hand is the God of the Bible, He hates child rapists and child murderers. So my God hates your god because your god loves and protects evil doers while he does nothing the help the poor children being raped and murdered. Can you see why I hate your god of love.
Just reading up on this
Reformed Doctrine of Predestination by Boettner, Loraine (1901-1990)
https://ccel.org/ccel/boettner/predest/predest.vii.ii.html?queryID=35330708&resultID=111914
Chapter XXVIII
Calvinism in History
1. Before the Reformation. 2. The Reformation. 3. Calvinism in England. 4. Calvinism in Scotland. 5. Calvinism in France. 6. Calvinism in Holland. 7. Calvinism in America. 8. Calvinism and Representative Government. 9. Calvinism and Education. 10. John Calvin. 11. Conclusion.
1. BEFORE THE REFORMATION
It may occasion some surprise to discover that the doctrine of Predestination was not made a matter of special study until near the end of the fourth century. The earlier church fathers placed chief emphasis on good works such as faith, repentance, almsgiving, prayers, submission to baptism, etc., as the basis of salvation. They of course taught that salvation was through Christ; yet they assumed that man had full power to accept or reject the gospel. Some of their writings contain passages in which the sovereignty of God is recognized; yet along side of those are others which teach the absolute freedom of the human will. Since they could not reconcile the two they would have denied the doctrine of Predestination and perhaps also that of God's absolute Foreknowledge. They taught a kind of synergism in which there was a co-operation between grace and free will.
Reformed Doctrine of Predestination by Boettner, Loraine (1901-1990)
https://ccel.org/ccel/boettner/predest/predest.vii.ii.html?queryID=35330708&resultID=111914
Chapter XXVIII
Calvinism in History
1. Before the Reformation. 2. The Reformation. 3. Calvinism in England. 4. Calvinism in Scotland. 5. Calvinism in France. 6. Calvinism in Holland. 7. Calvinism in America. 8. Calvinism and Representative Government. 9. Calvinism and Education. 10. John Calvin. 11. Conclusion.
1. BEFORE THE REFORMATION
It may occasion some surprise to discover that the doctrine of Predestination was not made a matter of special study until near the end of the fourth century. The earlier church fathers placed chief emphasis on good works such as faith, repentance, almsgiving, prayers, submission to baptism, etc., as the basis of salvation. They of course taught that salvation was through Christ; yet they assumed that man had full power to accept or reject the gospel. Some of their writings contain passages in which the sovereignty of God is recognized; yet along side of those are others which teach the absolute freedom of the human will. Since they could not reconcile the two they would have denied the doctrine of Predestination and perhaps also that of God's absolute Foreknowledge. They taught a kind of synergism in which there was a co-operation between grace and free will.
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Yes your god only has one attribute. he's like a political party with only one policy, so you're saying he's very weak and narrow minded. He has no morals and he loves the evil doers so much that he suffered and died for them and then they spat in his face and he's still begging them to come to heaven but they chose the lake of fire instead.
That's the most pathetic god, I've ever heard of. he can't even defend himself from the mockers and he's so cowardly that he can't even stand up for himself. good luck with your god of love, you'll need lots of luck when you stand before the God of the bible to give an account of what you did with His Son.
That's the most pathetic god, I've ever heard of. he can't even defend himself from the mockers and he's so cowardly that he can't even stand up for himself. good luck with your god of love, you'll need lots of luck when you stand before the God of the bible to give an account of what you did with His Son.
You just proved my case for me, The case that you do not know God.
My God loved them so much he died for them, and if they do not repent, they will suffer their fate.. Now your God does nto even give them a chance. he will just punish them.
My God hates all sin. Not just the big ones. Adam ate peace of fruit. and look at what affect that one sin had on the whole world. we still suffer that one sin today.
My God is a perfect judge. He judges all sin equally. The wage of sin is death.. We are spiritually dead because of our smallest sin, As James said, if we keep the whole law yet STUMBLE in just one point, we are guilty of all.
But My God also has perfect love. Love can not overrule his justice. Justice (perfect justice) demands a penalty for sin, and it carries it out.. But Love can find a way. My God died for those who are judged. so they could set free of Gods justice and be found righteous in him.
King David was a rapist, and adulterer and a murderer.. God loved him..While he suffered the consequences of his sin here on earth. Because of his faith. God covered those sin in his sons blood. so he could spend eternity with him in heaven.
Go ahead and focus on sin.. Pump your chest like the tax collector that you are not one of those sinners.
Satan is cheering you one. and he is praying you have victory in leading people down your path.
My God loved them so much he died for them, and if they do not repent, they will suffer their fate.. Now your God does nto even give them a chance. he will just punish them.
My God hates all sin. Not just the big ones. Adam ate peace of fruit. and look at what affect that one sin had on the whole world. we still suffer that one sin today.
My God is a perfect judge. He judges all sin equally. The wage of sin is death.. We are spiritually dead because of our smallest sin, As James said, if we keep the whole law yet STUMBLE in just one point, we are guilty of all.
But My God also has perfect love. Love can not overrule his justice. Justice (perfect justice) demands a penalty for sin, and it carries it out.. But Love can find a way. My God died for those who are judged. so they could set free of Gods justice and be found righteous in him.
King David was a rapist, and adulterer and a murderer.. God loved him..While he suffered the consequences of his sin here on earth. Because of his faith. God covered those sin in his sons blood. so he could spend eternity with him in heaven.
Go ahead and focus on sin.. Pump your chest like the tax collector that you are not one of those sinners.
Satan is cheering you one. and he is praying you have victory in leading people down your path.
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Here you go @Charlie_2024 look who the reformed doctrine of predestination has been wrote by
Loraine Boettner was an American theologian, teacher, and author in the Reformed tradition. He is best known for his works on predestination, Roman Catholicism
Loraine Boettner was an American theologian, teacher, and author in the Reformed tradition. He is best known for his works on predestination, Roman Catholicism
You can count
Perfect love (one attribute)
Perfect justice (2nd attribute)
Omnipresent (3rd)
Omnipotent (4th) I can go on and on and on
Your God is a God of hate, he claims to be a God of love, But his actions prove otherwise
Yawn. This just porves your not listening
Again, My God does not need protected. My God will stand in perfect harmony with himself and the universe. Because even when he escorts the lost into outer darkness, He is justified and vindicated. because He loved them also.. No one can blame him.
Perfect love (one attribute)
Perfect justice (2nd attribute)
Omnipresent (3rd)
Omnipotent (4th) I can go on and on and on
Your God is a God of hate, he claims to be a God of love, But his actions prove otherwise
Yawn. This just porves your not listening
Again, My God does not need protected. My God will stand in perfect harmony with himself and the universe. Because even when he escorts the lost into outer darkness, He is justified and vindicated. because He loved them also.. No one can blame him.
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I'm glad that you don't just follow the crowd, but you have taken the Bible seriously enough to be instructed by Gods Word. I respect you for that.
I'm not sure which book of the Bible mentions the Bereans, they heard the Apostles preaching the gospel but they also went and enquired to make sure that this is what the scriptures say. So it's very wise to enquire, to find out where certain Bible doctrines originated and which scriptures they used to support them.
So, in my estimation you are the wisest person that I have come across on CC. Hope you keep studying to equip yourself with the truth. Then you will be able to recognize false teachers.
I'm not sure which book of the Bible mentions the Bereans, they heard the Apostles preaching the gospel but they also went and enquired to make sure that this is what the scriptures say. So it's very wise to enquire, to find out where certain Bible doctrines originated and which scriptures they used to support them.
So, in my estimation you are the wisest person that I have come across on CC. Hope you keep studying to equip yourself with the truth. Then you will be able to recognize false teachers.
Charlie the reformed doctrine of predestination wrote by the Roman catholics.
The very people Jean Calvin went to war against
Reformed Doctrine of Predestination by Boettner, Loraine (1901-1990)
https://ccel.org/ccel/boettner/predest/predest.vii.ii.html?queryID=35330708&resultID=111914
Chapter XXVIII
Calvinism in History
1. Before the Reformation. 2. The Reformation. 3. Calvinism in England. 4. Calvinism in Scotland. 5. Calvinism in France. 6. Calvinism in Holland. 7. Calvinism in America. 8. Calvinism and Representative Government. 9. Calvinism and Education. 10. John Calvin. 11. Conclusion.
1. BEFORE THE REFORMATION
It may occasion some surprise to discover that the doctrine of Predestination was not made a matter of special study until near the end of the fourth century. The earlier church fathers placed chief emphasis on good works such as faith, repentance, almsgiving, prayers, submission to baptism, etc., as the basis of salvation. They of course taught that salvation was through Christ; yet they assumed that man had full power to accept or reject the gospel. Some of their writings contain passages in which the sovereignty of God is recognized; yet along side of those are others which teach the absolute freedom of the human will. Since they could not reconcile the two they would have denied the doctrine of Predestination and perhaps also that of God's absolute Foreknowledge. They taught a kind of synergism in which there was a co-operation between grace and free will.
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