Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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Which covenants for $100?
Noahic covenant?
Abrahamic covenant?
Mosaic covenant?
New Covenant?
After you select one or more of the covenants above, I'll take that bet.
That's the Jeopardy format. There are questions worth various amounts of money won for answering correctly.
Actually, the answer is given first and the respondent must ask the correct corresponding question...
Ahh...I only saw your first answer. Yes, I'm am familiar with that theology. Just didn't know the name. It's pretty convoluted stuff -- right down there with Dispensationalism.
Do you have family living in Israel? 'We all need to be earnestly praying for God's OC people.
Come to think if it, I heard it the other way around wherein messianic Jews believe the NC was made only with the House of Israel and the Old somehow applies to Gentiles. That's even more bizarre.
That is wise, otherwise you would be reading into the passage what is not there.
The personal pronoun "whom" actually says it all. God [fore]knew people in eternity. That is to say, that He had intimate, personal, loving, familial kind of knowledge of them. (And this stands in sharp contrast to what Jesus said about the non-elect in Mat 7:21-23.) Yet, many Christians interpret the passage to mean God gazed through his cosmic crystal ball, as it were, and foresaw their faith and repentance, and so based on this knowledge he predestined them to be saved. God's choice of them was contingent on their prior choice of Him. But this is a totally unbiblical view, for it reduces our salvation to a quid pro quo arrangement between God and us, instead of what it really is: a unilateral, supernatural act of God.
When you reply, you mention things I never said. This is why I handle you the way I do because you put words into people's mouth they have never said.
Another example of putting words into people's mouth they never said. NOWHERE did I say I exited my mothers womb as a saved/serving God kind of person, NOWHERE!
I do!
They will be coming here in next couple days now.
It was arranged yesterday for them.
Jesus died for EVERYONE. God has given us free will to make the choice to accept His salvation gift or reject it. If you accept it, you are no longer defiled, you are born again. That is when your name enters the Lamb's Book of Life.
I didn't put words in your mouth. I simply drew conclusions from what you said and from what scripture teaches. You essentially claimed that you came into this world serving God at a young age. The only thing I can logically infer, then, from such a stupendous and bold claim is that you must have differed from natural man [who is in Adam] -- free from the power of the World, the Flesh and the Devil. And that this is why you can't see yourself spiritually as that helpless, powerless, hopeless man on the side of the road who desperately needed to be rescued. From what did you need to be rescued?
When a married couple in a church have a baby and the married couple keep attending church that baby is also attending church. It won't be old enough to understand for another 4 to 5 years but they're in church hearing about God. And when they're old enough to understand, they only know about Jesus because they have not been old enough to learn anything else. And they naturally accept Jesus because it is all they know. Happens in every church or synagogue in the world.