Hmmm . . . I don't see God's Sovereign Power that way in the hundreds of stories to choose from. But maybe words sometimes get in the way. 
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I wrote a Letter to my Free Will
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When we think about Who God is, I am positive that He chose the only way that was the best way to enlighten how much He loves us. But when we think about it in our limited understanding, it seems like there could have been more than 1 way for Jesus to end up being Crucified.
Wow. Yeah, no I don't see that at all, for the many, many prophesies alone dictate how things would go down, right down to Jesus telling two of His Disicples to enter into Jerusalem, and the first man that they saw with a pitcher of water, he would be the one who would provide Jesus and the Disicples their final meal together. That is exactly how I read the entire Bible. The entire Bible is just like the story offered, so it's going to be pretty difficult for me to change the idea that God's Plan is fulfilled right down to owls and falcons being in specific locations and at specific times. The Scroll of the Lord has all the details in it!
Wow. Yeah, no I don't see that at all, for the many, many prophesies alone dictate how things would go down, right down to Jesus telling two of His Disicples to enter into Jerusalem, and the first man that they saw with a pitcher of water, he would be the one who would provide Jesus and the Disicples their final meal together. That is exactly how I read the entire Bible. The entire Bible is just like the story offered, so it's going to be pretty difficult for me to change the idea that God's Plan is fulfilled right down to owls and falcons being in specific locations and at specific times. The Scroll of the Lord has all the details in it!
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Good morning friends!
Adam. If it weren’t for Adam, nearly every human created was forced to become a sinner, hence, humanity needed a Redeemer; a Savior. Have we helped anyone escape the mind-control of Satan lately?
Romans 5:19 KJV – “For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.”
If we can help people escape the control of Satan, we can help them salvage the rest of their life, not to mention help them obtain Eternal Life. These people need to be set free!
Acts 16:24-26 NLT – “So the jailer put them into the inner dungeon and clamped their feet in the stocks. Around midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the other prisoners were listening. Suddenly, there was a massive earthquake, and the prison was shaken to its foundations. All the doors immediately flew open, and the chains of every prisoner fell off!”
Adam. If it weren’t for Adam, nearly every human created was forced to become a sinner, hence, humanity needed a Redeemer; a Savior. Have we helped anyone escape the mind-control of Satan lately?
Romans 5:19 KJV – “For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.”
If we can help people escape the control of Satan, we can help them salvage the rest of their life, not to mention help them obtain Eternal Life. These people need to be set free!
Acts 16:24-26 NLT – “So the jailer put them into the inner dungeon and clamped their feet in the stocks. Around midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the other prisoners were listening. Suddenly, there was a massive earthquake, and the prison was shaken to its foundations. All the doors immediately flew open, and the chains of every prisoner fell off!”
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I wrote a follow up letter to my will
What do you think
Why calvinism is wrong
Well firstly it promotes fatalism
But anyhow I posted this in another thread that after 15 pages I haven't been able to raise this point in the thread death curses the law . But here it is.
But here is another reason why calvinism is wrong.
Which for now I'll leave it to someone else to say why calvinism is wrong after reading this
Hi friends it will hopefully sink in soon 😊
But here's the reason
Right up to the ending of genesis 3
God had created man not outside of time.
In other words he chose not to know what man would do next before they did something which can be shown in many ways in genesis 3 also.
Well it proves calvinism wrong
but here the other thing God first created man with no suitable helper
After he saw the animals where not suitable helpers for Adam he then made it a law that man should not live alone without a suitable helper ❤️
because man was first created not outside of time, God never knew man would not find the animals suitable helpers, so he the made it law that man shall not live alone.
This is why he hates divorce to
But after Genesis 3 God put man outside of times so he could know what you where going to do before you do it to help you in a fallen state.
One scripture says, when you pray God's knows what you need before you ask him.
Well he never knew that up until after genesis 3 when he booted you out of the garden of eden
Adam and eve someone you loved 😊
Do you know this song 😊
What do you think
Why calvinism is wrong
Well firstly it promotes fatalism
But anyhow I posted this in another thread that after 15 pages I haven't been able to raise this point in the thread death curses the law . But here it is.
But here is another reason why calvinism is wrong.
Which for now I'll leave it to someone else to say why calvinism is wrong after reading this
Hi friends it will hopefully sink in soon 😊
But here's the reason
Right up to the ending of genesis 3
God had created man not outside of time.
In other words he chose not to know what man would do next before they did something which can be shown in many ways in genesis 3 also.
Well it proves calvinism wrong
but here the other thing God first created man with no suitable helper
After he saw the animals where not suitable helpers for Adam he then made it a law that man should not live alone without a suitable helper ❤️
because man was first created not outside of time, God never knew man would not find the animals suitable helpers, so he the made it law that man shall not live alone.
This is why he hates divorce to
But after Genesis 3 God put man outside of times so he could know what you where going to do before you do it to help you in a fallen state.
One scripture says, when you pray God's knows what you need before you ask him.
Well he never knew that up until after genesis 3 when he booted you out of the garden of eden
Adam and eve someone you loved 😊
Do you know this song 😊
What do I think? Well, I don't know anything about Calvanism, for my heart burns to know God thinks and not what Calvin thought.
As for the rest of what you offered, it must be a bit too deep for me, as I don't quite understand.
As for the rest of what you offered, it must be a bit too deep for me, as I don't quite understand.
So God does not abandon his children.
Which means he made it law that man shall not live alone.
Maybe you know this song 😊
The thunder dome 😊
As for the rest of what you offered, it must be a bit too deep for me, as I don't quite understand.
that Jesus was purposed from before the creation of the world for the very reason
of atoning for mankind's sin, so obviously God knew about it before it happened.
I don't see anything deep in it... just a lot of confusion, no grounding in the Truth
of God's revealed written Word, and false teaching. Rabbit trails going nowhere.
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Hi @2ndTimothyGroup as you may not have not noticed but I'm being deliberately targeted by Calvinists, who with there doctrine of total depravity have decided that I don't serve God so now there stripping me of God as they do all other people
So I've now re wrote my will again that I will take to my death bed.
You said you never understood so here it is again
Heres a letter to my will, that i will leave in my will, which still shows God as all knowing.
And the question I will leave in my will is
Why Did God make it law that man shall not live alone.
The other thing I will state in my will is that Calvinism will say this is not true, because they say it doesn't line up with an ism, isms are bad thing.
Then in my will, will be this question.
Can you see how this proves calvinism wrong.
friends it will hopefully sink in soon 😊
But here's the reason
Right up to the ending of genesis 3
God had created man not outside of time.
In other words he chose not to know what man would do next before they did something, before the fall of man, because they where living in innocence in his garden, which can be shown in many ways in genesis 3 also.
Well this proves calvinism wrong
but here the other thing,
God first created man with no suitable helper.
After he saw the animals where not suitable helpers for Adam he then made it a law that man should not live alone without a suitable helper and gave him a wife. ❤️
because man was first created not outside of time before the fall , God never knew man would not find the animals suitable helpers, so he the made it law that man shall not live alone by giving him a suitable helper
This is why he hates divorce to.
He hates divorce so much he considers that man living alone is not Good.
But after the fall particular genesis 3 God put man outside of times so he could know what you where going to do before you do it.
Why well to help you in a fallen state, which means you are never truly totally depraved, as God honours marriage in life and death.
One scripture says, when you pray God's knows what you need before you ask him.
Well he never knew that before the fall, because God realised man did not have a suitable helper at first.
If you turn to bible you will read God found that the animals where not suitable helpers for Adam.
So he gave man a helper (a wife) and it made it law that man shall not live alone.
To further sanction this God made it law that marriage must be honoured and told us in no uncertain terms that he hates divorce.
So in death God the father is still with you untill he hands you to the son.
Oh one last note
God is still all knowing.
Because hes God and he cares about you in a fallen state, he has made you live outside of time, so that he knows what you will do before you do it.
As God says this
When you pray God knows what you need before you know it.
Well this was after the fall he said this.
Because before th fall in the garden of innocent ie eden, he never knew that then animals would be a suitable helper untill it was tried.
Then when he knew God then said it's not good that man shall live alone so he made it a law that man shall not live alone and have man a wife.
One last note
God is still all knowing
God is still all knowing
God is still all knowing
God is still all knowing.
Thanks for wanting to understand tim
So I've now re wrote my will again that I will take to my death bed.
You said you never understood so here it is again
Heres a letter to my will, that i will leave in my will, which still shows God as all knowing.
And the question I will leave in my will is
Why Did God make it law that man shall not live alone.
The other thing I will state in my will is that Calvinism will say this is not true, because they say it doesn't line up with an ism, isms are bad thing.
Then in my will, will be this question.
Can you see how this proves calvinism wrong.
friends it will hopefully sink in soon 😊
But here's the reason
Right up to the ending of genesis 3
God had created man not outside of time.
In other words he chose not to know what man would do next before they did something, before the fall of man, because they where living in innocence in his garden, which can be shown in many ways in genesis 3 also.
Well this proves calvinism wrong
but here the other thing,
God first created man with no suitable helper.
After he saw the animals where not suitable helpers for Adam he then made it a law that man should not live alone without a suitable helper and gave him a wife. ❤️
because man was first created not outside of time before the fall , God never knew man would not find the animals suitable helpers, so he the made it law that man shall not live alone by giving him a suitable helper
This is why he hates divorce to.
He hates divorce so much he considers that man living alone is not Good.
But after the fall particular genesis 3 God put man outside of times so he could know what you where going to do before you do it.
Why well to help you in a fallen state, which means you are never truly totally depraved, as God honours marriage in life and death.
One scripture says, when you pray God's knows what you need before you ask him.
Well he never knew that before the fall, because God realised man did not have a suitable helper at first.
If you turn to bible you will read God found that the animals where not suitable helpers for Adam.
So he gave man a helper (a wife) and it made it law that man shall not live alone.
To further sanction this God made it law that marriage must be honoured and told us in no uncertain terms that he hates divorce.
So in death God the father is still with you untill he hands you to the son.
Oh one last note
God is still all knowing.
Because hes God and he cares about you in a fallen state, he has made you live outside of time, so that he knows what you will do before you do it.
As God says this
When you pray God knows what you need before you know it.
Well this was after the fall he said this.
Because before th fall in the garden of innocent ie eden, he never knew that then animals would be a suitable helper untill it was tried.
Then when he knew God then said it's not good that man shall live alone so he made it a law that man shall not live alone and have man a wife.
One last note
God is still all knowing
God is still all knowing
God is still all knowing
God is still all knowing.
Thanks for wanting to understand tim
I have to admit, in the future, I won't be creating conversation in the manner as I did in the OP. I could sense in my heart that something wasn't quite right as I hit the "send" button. You know what . . .
I apologize to all who have been, and will be in the future, offended by the nature of the opening thread. That said, I hope that we can get past and continue to help one another. I am on the fence regarding what I believe, hence, this thread to help either redirect my understandings, or confirm them.
Thanks for the nudge in helping me to come to an apology. I like your style. Now, I hope that your following response to what I've written is just as kind. lol
I apologize to all who have been, and will be in the future, offended by the nature of the opening thread. That said, I hope that we can get past and continue to help one another. I am on the fence regarding what I believe, hence, this thread to help either redirect my understandings, or confirm them.
Thanks for the nudge in helping me to come to an apology. I like your style. Now, I hope that your following response to what I've written is just as kind. lol
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