Predestination is misunderstood...

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brightfame52

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The reason we believe is because God predestinated us to be conformed to the image of his Son. Rom 8:28-30 To ensure that his people would be conformed to the image of Christ, God predestinated each one to that conformity to his Son.

28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. 13
 

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Being almighty does not require intimidation by show of force.
For what can harm the Almighty God?








Then He said, “Go out, and stand on the mountain before the Lord.”
And behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind tore
into the mountains and broke the rocks in pieces before the Lord,
but the Lord was not in the wind; and after the wind an earthquake,
but the Lord was not in the earthquake; and after the earthquake a
fire, but the Lord was not in the fire;
and after the fire a still small voice."
1 Kings 19:11-12

We have so much to learn .. and, unlearn.


grace and peace .............
Gods Grace reigns unto Eternal Life Rom 5:21

21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

You belittle Gods Grace and exalt the will of man!
 

brightfame52

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That's only memorized rote... Not truth.
Yes it is True. Those for whom Christ died, God laid all their condemnation and sin on Christ and Satisfied Gods Law and Justice for them, they have no condemnation, not ever
 

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Yes it is True. Those for whom Christ died, God laid all their condemnation and sin on Christ and Satisfied Gods Law and Justice for them, they have no condemnation, not ever
Theodore Beza would love you.....
 
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30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. 13
moreover should whom mean he has predestined. everyone to be saved first before there predestined to hell.
 

brightfame52

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does God predestine people to hell first it's a simple question
The reason we believe is because God predestinated us to be conformed to the image of his Son. Rom 8:28-30 To ensure that his people would be conformed to the image of Christ, God predestinated each one to that conformity to his Son.

28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
 
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Did God predestinate where and when you were to be born?

.... that's a simple question..

:coffee:
I know God loves me for who I am and not out of favour.

I also knows he also has me living in past time to warn me of the future.

I also know he gives me a choice.

I also know he knows every hair on people heads
 

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Theodore Beza was a disciple of Calvin and created TULIP after Calvin was dead.
TULIP was not Calvin's doing.

Didi you know that?
Obviously you dont believe. More on Grace,

Rom 5:15

15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
 
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The reason we believe is because God predestinated us to be conformed to the image of his Son. Rom 8:28-30 To ensure that his people would be conformed to the image of Christ, God predestinated each one to that conformity to his Son.

28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
does God predestine people to be saved first
 

brightfame52

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does God predestine people to be saved first
The reason we believe is because God predestinated us to be conformed to the image of his Son. Rom 8:28-30 To ensure that his people would be conformed to the image of Christ, God predestinated each one to that conformity to his Son.

28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.