Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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It's a verse explaining how God designed for His creation to be saved.
God chose humans would be saved by Jesus before the foundation of the earth.
in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight.
in him = Jesus
Only Jesus was ever Holy and Blameless.
Adam was never holy.
God chose humans would be saved by Jesus before the foundation of the earth.
in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight.
in him = Jesus
Only Jesus was ever Holy and Blameless.
Adam was never holy.
What an interesting study! I must admit that I’ve learned quite a lot! I agree that the passages you referred to in Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Romans are absolutely unconditional promises. It’s interesting that some of these promises will not actually be fulfilled until the millennium, and they are definite proof of our Father’s unconditional love.
Also, I totally understand the concept of unconditional election if it applies solely to this flash age we’re living in today. Like you say, before the foundation of the world, election may have been conditional. You’ve given me a lot to mediate upon. Thanks! —Selah
Also, I totally understand the concept of unconditional election if it applies solely to this flash age we’re living in today. Like you say, before the foundation of the world, election may have been conditional. You’ve given me a lot to mediate upon. Thanks! —Selah
Do you have the Bible reference for that? I can't find it. Probably because it is not actually in the Bible 
This is what the Bible actually states:
8But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For with your heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved.
11It is just as the Scripture says: “Anyone who believes in Him will never be put to shame.” 12For there is no difference between Jew and Greek: The same Lord is Lord of all, and gives richly to all who call on Him, 13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
14How then can they call on the One in whom they have not believed? And how can they believe in the One of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone to preach? 15And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news
This is what the Bible actually states:
8But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For with your heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved.
11It is just as the Scripture says: “Anyone who believes in Him will never be put to shame.” 12For there is no difference between Jew and Greek: The same Lord is Lord of all, and gives richly to all who call on Him, 13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
14How then can they call on the One in whom they have not believed? And how can they believe in the One of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone to preach? 15And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news
…and here’s a good example. Paul, in spite of being a chosen vessel of God, still had a hard time with sin:
For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? I thank God—through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.
- Romans 7:15-25
For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? I thank God—through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.
- Romans 7:15-25
Why did God hate Esau?
God made a Covenant with Abraham for all of Abraham's descendants (Israel). So to be first born meant you were given this Blessing of God. But Esau did not care about the Promise of God.
32 And Esau said: 'Behold, I am at the point to die; and what profit shall the birthright do to me?'
34 And Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentils; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way. So Esau despised his birthright.
That's why God hated Esau.
God made a Covenant with Abraham for all of Abraham's descendants (Israel). So to be first born meant you were given this Blessing of God. But Esau did not care about the Promise of God.
32 And Esau said: 'Behold, I am at the point to die; and what profit shall the birthright do to me?'
34 And Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentils; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way. So Esau despised his birthright.
That's why God hated Esau.
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MALACHI:
2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say: 'Wherein hast Thou loved us?' Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD; yet I loved Jacob;
3 But Esau I hated, and made his mountains a desolation, and gave his heritage to the jackals of the wilderness.
4 Whereas Edom saith: 'We are beaten down, but we will return and build the waste places'; thus saith the LORD of hosts: They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall be called the border of wickedness, and the people whom the LORD execrateth for ever.
ROMANS:
12 she was told, “The older will serve the younger.”
13 As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”
WHERE does it say "before they were born" God said this?
This is another one of Paul's opinions like he wrote in 1 timothy 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
I DO NOT = not God but PAUL! (does not permit)
2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say: 'Wherein hast Thou loved us?' Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD; yet I loved Jacob;
3 But Esau I hated, and made his mountains a desolation, and gave his heritage to the jackals of the wilderness.
4 Whereas Edom saith: 'We are beaten down, but we will return and build the waste places'; thus saith the LORD of hosts: They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall be called the border of wickedness, and the people whom the LORD execrateth for ever.
ROMANS:
12 she was told, “The older will serve the younger.”
13 As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”
WHERE does it say "before they were born" God said this?
This is another one of Paul's opinions like he wrote in 1 timothy 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
I DO NOT = not God but PAUL! (does not permit)
