I wrote a Letter to my Free Will

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It isn't necessarily a matter of what I believe, it is a matter of what our Bibles report. And what our Bibles report is that human beings have a limited sense of free will.
no where in the does it say you have any free will.

Having a sense of free will makes no sense either.

What is a sense of free will
 

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no where in the does it say you have any free will.

Having a sense of free will makes no sense either.

What is a sense of free will
Free Will is the unrestricted and uninfluenced ability to make decisions on one's own accord.
 
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Free Will is the unrestricted and uninfluenced ability to make decisions on one's own accord.
err no will is something God saved you with

Grace means saved by Gods Good will.

Will also means self control for you and the will that lives in you either life or death and it also mean your self control to live.
 

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I am a child of God. Are you?
I believe so. For I understand the below Scripture:

John 9:39-41 NLT - "Then Jesus told him, "I entered this world to render judgment--to give sight to the blind and to show those who think they see that they are blind." Some Pharisees who were standing nearby heard him and asked, "Are you saying we're blind?" "If you were blind, you wouldn't be guilty," Jesus replied. "But you remain guilty because you claim you can see."
 

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err no will is something God saved you with

Grace means saved by Gods Good will.

Will also means self control for you and the will that lives in you either life or death and it also mean your self control to live.
Never heard of God saving a person with free will. That's the opposite of what Scripture reports.

Self-control is Godly behavior. Even athiest exhibit Godly behavior when they are required to be orderly during their evil meetings. They follow the Plan of God when they require self-control. Self-control is an illusion, for when a person possesses, self-control, they are possessing the behaviors that the Lord desires.

Pretty interesting ideas you have there. :D
 

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It isn't necessarily a matter of what I believe, it is a matter of what our Bibles report.
And what our Bibles report is that human beings have a limited sense of free will.
It seems many conflate the making of choices with having free will...
 

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Everyone, even the Elect in this age, must choose/make a decision to follow Jesus.
 

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It seems many conflate the making of choices with having free will...
Yes. And it doesn't matter how many times I post the Scriptures that show that God gives His Children new hearts that are pre-wired to love, worship, and obey Him . . . it just doesn't matter. Nothing penetrates.
 
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Never heard of God saving a person with free will. That's the opposite of what Scripture reports.

Self-control is Godly behavior. Even athiest exhibit Godly behavior when they are required to be orderly during their evil meetings. They follow the Plan of God when they require self-control. Self-control is an illusion, for when a person possesses, self-control, they are possessing the behaviors that the Lord desires.

Pretty interesting ideas you have there. :D
well if you don't have a will to live what self control do you have.

And why are you conflating free choice to free will
 

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Hey, I have a question for you, considering that you have free will to choose the Devil or God, depending on your heart at any given moment of the day. Do you relate to Paul when he wrote the following:

Romans 7:21-24 NLT - "I have discovered this principle of life--that when I want to do what is right, I inevitably do what is wrong. I love God's law with all my heart. But there is another power within me that is at war with my mind. This power makes me a slave to the sin that is still within me. Oh, what a miserable person I am! Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin and death?"
 

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well if you don't have a will to live what self control do you have.

And why are you conflating free choice to free will
I don't understand your first question.

If I don't understand free will, then help me out! Tell me! :D
 

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Hey, I have a question for you, considering that you have free will to choose the Devil or God, depending on your heart at any given moment of the day. Do you relate to Paul when he wrote the following:

Romans 7:21-24 NLT - "I have discovered this principle of life--that when I want to do what is right, I inevitably do what is wrong. I love God's law with all my heart. But there is another power within me that is at war with my mind. This power makes me a slave to the sin that is still within me. Oh, what a miserable person I am! Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin and death?"
“at any given moment of the day?” Being saved is a one-time event, Charlie.