The hatred of Jews

[Mem]

If Hamas is rightful to be at war with Israel, then why is everyone in an uproar that Israel is at war with Hamas, and is engaging Hamas 'arsenal' of defense which happens to be its very own citizenry as stand ins for shields? I don't get it.

 

[Obedience]

If Hamas is rightful to be at war with Israel, then why is everyone in an uproar that Israel is at war with Hamas, and is engaging Hamas 'arsenal' of defense which happens to be its very own citizenry as stand ins for shields? I don't get it.

Hamas is not using Palestinians as human shields.It's just that Israel wants to kill all the Palestinians or drive them out of the promise land.

Palestinians in Gaza are not even free to buy foreign goods.Israel blocked Egypt's ports.This is to starve all Gaza people.

【Gaza Man Gets Flour Kneeling Kiss Tiktok Comment Colorful Barrage Optimized Translation by Chatgpt - Bilibili】 https://b23.tv/BDQdmPd

And the current Palestinian government is just a puppet of Israel.They're just trying to survive Under the Israel's violent institutions.There is no dignity at all.

 

[7thMoon]

Hamas is not using Palestinians as human shields. It's just that Israel wants to kill all the Palestinians or drive them out of the promise land.

Palestinians in Gaza are not even free to buy foreign goods. Israel blocked Egypt's ports. This is to starve all Gaza people.

【Gaza Man Gets Flour Kneeling Kiss Tiktok Comment Colorful Barrage Optimized Translation by Chatgpt - Bilibili】 https://b23.tv/BDQdmPd

And the current Palestinian government is just a puppet of Israel. They're just trying to survive Under the Israel's violent institutions. There is no dignity at all.

The Palestinians are unwelcome invaders. Did they think their fate would be different? What are they supposed to do; convert themselves to Judaism?

 

[Obedience]

The Palestinians are unwelcome invaders. Did they think their fate would be different? What are they supposed to do; convert themselves to Judaism?

【Converted to Judaism because grandfather saved 25 Jews, Palestinian 63-year-old man raised his hands and was shot by Israeli soldiers - Bilibili】 https://b23.tv/PDPTCPi

Like I said, Palestinians have no dignity.The whole country of Israel is under the educational system of hating Palestinians.
I'm not saying that all Jews accept this idea.
But this is the reality.

 

[7thMoon]

【Converted to Judaism because grandfather saved 25 Jews, Palestinian 63-year-old man raised his hands and was shot by Israeli soldiers - Bilibili】 https://b23.tv/PDPTCPi

Like I said, Palestinians have no dignity.The whole country of Israel is under the educational system of hating Palestinians.
I'm not saying that all Jews accept this idea.
But this is the reality.

The Palestinian holocaust doesn't seem preventable. Was it too many Muslims among them?

 

[Obedience]

The Palestinian holocaust doesn't seem preventable. Was it too many Muslims among them?

I don't think it's because of Muslims.But when people turn God's goodwill into evil.

Isaiah
5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
5:21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Yes, He did promise...but not in that order. He is clear on what has to happen.

Here's one of the first, if not the first, times the promise is made:

Deuteronomy 30:1-5
And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath driven thee,

2 And shalt return unto the Lord thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;

3 That then the Lord thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath scattered thee.

4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the Lord thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:

5 And the Lord thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.


To Summarize:
1) They receive the blessings = The Ancient Kingdom of Israel

2) They receive the curses = scattered among the nations

3) They remember ^these things while scattered among the nations^

4) They obey The Almighty according to all that is commanded with all their hearts

5) The Almighty regathers them from the nations and brings them back to the land


There is a condition The Almighty laid out for regathering them, and that is obeying all that was commanded, while scattered. While scattered. And yet...

- Tel Aviv is one of the LGBT capitals of the world
- They kill innocent women and children long before October 7th, an abomination to God
- Most of them are Atheists so no obedience to commandments
- They don't believe in the Messiah and openly mock Him

This is why I say either God's word is void and doesn't matter anymore or they are not the people and so aren't held to any convenant. Those are the only choices we have here. Scripture is clear.



Indeed. But are you sure you're not just using your eyes and then claiming it's His eyes? I ask because the passage I reference above is clear on the order of events. They repent and obey the commandments in the nations they were scattered in, with all their hearts, AND THEN He regathers them Himself during the second coming as prophesied in several passages including Matthew 24:30 and Isaiah 11:

Please see my post here: https://christianchat.com/threads/the-hatred-of-jews.214439/post-5276538

Isaiah 11:10-14 gives the areas where The northern house will be gathered from, where the southern house will be regathered from, how they all will return into the land, and who will already be in the land when He gets there.

- The Messiah hasn't returned
- Most of those who are currently in the land came from Europe
- Meanwhile, Messiah gathers his people from nations that the world will claim are not Israel right now
- Edom will already be in the land when Messiah comes

...so we must conclude that the regathering of Israel hasn't happened yet.

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Next, Ezekiel 35 & 36 share with us who The Almighty sees as claiming the land as theirs while His people are still scattered among the nations:

Ezekiel 35:2-3,10,13
2 Son of man, set thy face against mount Seir, and prophesy against it,

3 And say unto it, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O mount Seir, I am against thee, and I will stretch out mine hand against thee, and I will make thee most desolate.

10 Because thou hast said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the Lord was there:

13 Thus with your mouth ye have boasted against me, and have multiplied your words against me: I have heard them.

Ezekiel 36:5
Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the nations, and against all Idumea, which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey.


To Summarize:
- Mt. Seir is Edom
- Edom has hate in their hearts
- Edom claims the land as its possession while Israel is scattered

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Finally, these are quotes from the Jewish encyclopedia:

"EDOM IS IN MODERN JEWRY." The Jewish Ency. 1925 Ed., Vol. 5, Pg. 41.

“from then on [Edomites] constituted a part of the jewish people, Herod being one of their descendants”, - The Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, 1966 Doubleday & Company, Inc , Garden City, New York, Pg. 592.

They [the non-Israelite Edomites] were then incorporated with the Jewish nation…. "EDOM, IDUMEA," - The Jewish Encyclopedia (New York & London: Funk and Wagnalls Company, 1904) Vol. V, p. 41

…they [the Edomites] were hereafter no other than [non-Israelite] Jews. - Flavius Josephus, The Antiquities of the Jews (Grand Rapids, MI: Dregel Publications, 1960) Book XIII, Chapter IX, Verse 1, p. 279

For all that you posted, it still doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, so posting other books was just a waste of time. You're putting all this effort into hating them and trying to get others to hate them, but it literally doesn't matter. God is set on working out His relationship with them. I don't know what you think you can do to stop Him once He's made up his mind? I mean, what are you going to do to stop Him from doing what He wants? Why would you even try? You're just going to end up hurting yourself getting in His way. Why risk that?

If you're a Christian, shouldn't you be trying to respect the things He loves? Because let's face it, He still loves the Jews. And He's bent on working things out with them. Even the Bible says that in the end, they'll finally see Jesus as the Messiah and repent.


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[Obedience]

Proverbs. 28:23
He that rebuketh a man afterwards shall find more favour than he that flattereth with the tongue.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

The Palestinians are unwelcome invaders. Did they think their fate would be different? What are they supposed to do; convert themselves to Judaism?

Even if they convert to Judaism on the surface would God acknowledge their conversion? He'll know if they're being fake about it.


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[mailmandan]

Speaking of hatred of Jews (and America). This took place on American soil!

https://x.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1777124607750983874

I agree with Tim Young. Anyone who chants "death to America" in America should be deported. Enemies of America have no place here.

 

[HeIsHere]

International Law is a farce and a joke. If it had any reality, every terrorists would be arrested and executed. Terrorism is more than unlawful, so where are the people who should be dealing with it?

No Israel is not the one to be blamed (although recently the IDF has made some serious blunders which should never have happened). Once again, all other factors have no relevance (as I already told you). October 7 was an UNPROVOKED attack and now Israel must deal with Hamas (and then Iran). And since Hamas declared war on Israel, and uses Palestinian civilians and children as human shields, the innocent will perish for nothing. Hamas steals food from Palestinians receiving food aid. How much worse can it get?

Shia Iran hates Israel therefore it sabotaged the peace negotiations which Israel was having with Sunni Saudi Arabia (possibly other Sunni Arab countries later so that war could be avoided). Therefore Iran trained, funded, armed and encouraged Hamas to wage all out war against Israel. These facts conveniently get neglected, since now the whole world is pro-terrorists and anti-Israel.

Take it up with the USA they wrote the laws.
Take it up with the British Empire and their colonialism efforts, what do you think the purpose of WW 1 was, how many lives lost to gain a little strip of land in the middle east.
They caused this mess.

October was a provoked attack by 75 years of oppression.
Your oversimplification is astounding.
Like the USA has not been meddling in nations all over the world to protect their "interests" they are far from having clean hands.

 

[HeIsHere]

【Converted to Judaism because grandfather saved 25 Jews, Palestinian 63-year-old man raised his hands and was shot by Israeli soldiers - Bilibili】 https://b23.tv/PDPTCPi

Like I said, Palestinians have no dignity.The whole country of Israel is under the educational system of hating Palestinians.
I'm not saying that all Jews accept this idea.
But this is the reality.

It is a state that is militarized and are every person is indoctrinated that Palestinians are sub-human.
History repeats.

 

[HeIsHere]

If Hamas is rightful to be at war with Israel, then why is everyone in an uproar that Israel is at war with Hamas, and is engaging Hamas 'arsenal' of defense which happens to be its very own citizenry as stand ins for shields? I don't get it.

You know what I DON't get, is when Israel actually uses the enemy as human shields by placing them in front of fire and it is documented by eye witness but people insist Israel is the most moral army in the world they would never do something like that.

Another thing I DON'T get is how we know that the people living in Israel cannot be proven to have DNA to tie them to the ancient Israelite because all those records were destroyed when Rome invaded Jerusalem, but somehow we are told that Paul in his letters to the Romans was describing this time period. Yes that makes a lot of sense.

You know what I DO get is how this "moral" army has killed close to 100 journalists, some by targeted sniper fire when they are clearly marked as journalists.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Hamas is not using Palestinians as human shields.It's just that Israel wants to kill all the Palestinians or drive them out of the promise land.

NO! Hamas HAS used Palestinians as human shield before. That's already been proven. If Israel wanted to kill everyone they wouldn't tell them they are coming.smh They wouldn't send them three different warnings and a map of where they are going to hit. NO other country does that, not even the US. And no other country stops for ceasefires to allow food and aid to get in. Seriously people know nothing at all about whats going on. Like "who's on first"? smh

Palestinians in Gaza are not even free to buy foreign goods....

That's why it's called war!

And the current Palestinian government is just a puppet of Israel.

They are holding hostages!! What a daft comment! Israel murdered their own people on Oct 8 and took them hostage!!?? Unreal the hate of Jews here.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Please stop exaggerating like this.

Really? See what the UN has to say about Israel vs Hamas.

Human Rights Council Adopts Five Resolutions, including a Text Calling for an Immediate Ceasefire in Gaza, Urging States to Prevent the Continued Forcible Transfer of Palestinians Within or From Gaza, and Calling on States to Cease the Sale or Transfer of Arms to Israel
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-rele...tions-dont-celle-demandant-quun-cessez-le-feu

Please educate yourself before making negative comments.

 

[PennEd]

Another thing I DON'T get is how we know that the people living in Israel cannot be proven to have DNA to tie them to the ancient Israelite

You don't get that because you refuse to believe Scripture for what it says. I showed you EXACTLY where God would regather the Jews a SECOND time, and you did not respond to that Scripture because it annihilates your worldview of the Jews.

 

[Mem]

You know what I DON't get, is when Israel actually uses the enemy as human shields by placing them in front of fire and it is documented by eye witness but people insist Israel is the most moral army in the world they would never do something like that.

Another thing I DON'T get is how we know that the people living in Israel cannot be proven to have DNA to tie them to the ancient Israelite because all those records were destroyed when Rome invaded Jerusalem, but somehow we are told that Paul in his letters to the Romans was describing this time period. Yes that makes a lot of sense.

You know what I DO get is how this "moral" army has killed close to 100 journalists, some by targeted sniper fire when they are clearly marked as journalists.

Wow, it seems like you are experienced all of this firsthand.

 

[Mem]

Hamas is not using Palestinians as human shields.It's just that Israel wants to kill all the Palestinians or drive them out of the promise land.

Palestinians in Gaza are not even free to buy foreign goods.Israel blocked Egypt's ports.This is to starve all Gaza people.

【Gaza Man Gets Flour Kneeling Kiss Tiktok Comment Colorful Barrage Optimized Translation by Chatgpt - Bilibili】 https://b23.tv/BDQdmPd

And the current Palestinian government is just a puppet of Israel.They're just trying to survive Under the Israel's violent institutions.There is no dignity at all.

It would seem to me that a 'moral' government would only use willing participants as military stock, even if by an official draft or something like that. And of course, one could always just lie about setting up bases where they set up bases but, then you all 'rules of engagement' are then not worth your word and so than can't be very effective in barring many holds.

 

[Susanna]

Speaking of hatred of Jews (and America). This took place on American soil!

https://x.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1777124607750983874

I agree with Tim Young. Anyone who chants "death to America" in America should be deported. Enemies of America have no place here.

Yeah, that should qualify for a one way ticket straight out of the country.

 

[Mem]

Yeah, that should qualify for a one way ticket straight out of the country.

Ideally, the citizenry should be confident in their government's protection of them. But military ideology has become a bit muddled these days. For example, there are countries where the citizenry is used as protection for their military.