Questions, just for consideration:
Is God just?
Is it just to punish someone for a debt that has been paid?
Those that he loves he punishes. He does not divinely punish all men (Psalms 73:5)
Questions, just for consideration:
Is God just?
Is it just to punish someone for a debt that has been paid?
Yeah there’s a lot of scripture in the Bible it’s all true
They do when we don’t try to erase the ones we don’t want to hearYou are right, but they all must harmonize.
And?Judas Iscariot came to Jesus drawn by the Father. A lot of murderous conniving pharisees and scribes came to Jesus drawn by the Father. Crowds of hungry people came to Jesus drawn by the Father. The devil came to Jesus in the wilderness, drawn by the Father.
He chastens those He loves. He punishes the unredeemed.Those that he loves he punishes. He does not divinely punish all men (Psalms 73:5)
I disagree
he told them not to do what they did. The labored to come to him because they got fed the day before. Now they want to be fed again. He told them not to work just for food that perished but if you’re going to work. Work for food that endures forever.
I disagree
he told them not to do what they did. The labored to come to him because they got fed the day before. Now they want to be fed again. He told them not to work just for food that perished but if you’re going to work. Work for food that endures forever.
Why is it assumed that not everyone has ears to hear when it is a very rare occasion to find anyone without ears?
It's a conjunction.Right. So, when Jesus says "THIS is the work of God hina SO THAT you may believe on the one He sent", THIS is done so that we may believe in Jesus. What does THIS refer back to?
Answer : "John 6:27Labour... for that meat which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give to you."
Labouring for that meat which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give to you is the work of God, so that you may believe on the one He sent.
I travel a lot and for some reason end up in many liberal States. Must be God's design. But nevertheless, I typically am surrounded by those who believe in same sex and abortion and the right to pick your own gender. But what cracks me up is I love to wear t'shirts that have scripture, names of God, pictures representing God. Everyone of these people tell me, oh yeah been to church, read the Bible, blah blah blah I know what it says and know it is God's Word and all ...BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...I also believe in women's rights, people being what they are according to how they're born and yada yada yada.Why is it assumed that not everyone has ears to hear when it is a very rare occasion to find anyone without ears?
That chapter of Deuteronomy, and Ezekiel 12:2, explain why:.
That's sort of like the red dot that Hindu's place in the middle of their
forehead. The dot is reputed to represent a spiritual eye that's able to see
things that their normal eyes cannot see. For example:
"Moses summoned all the Israelites and said to them: Your eyes have seen
all that Yahweh did in Egypt to Pharaoh, to all his officials and to all his land.
With your own eyes you saw those great trials, those miraculous signs and
great wonders. But to this day Yahweh has not given you a mind that
understands, or eyes that see, or ears that hear. (Deut 29:2-5)
In the sphere of human existence; a mind that cannot understand, eyes that
cannot see, and ears that cannot hear; pertain to the mental and physical
characteristics of a corpse.
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It’s not a theory. it is a fact.Your theory will not harmonize with the new birth as described in Ephesians 2:1-5. The spiritually dead will not, and indeed, cannot receive the things of the Spirit (1 Cor 2:14).
Yep,You are right, but they all must harmonize.
You skipped a whole conversation.No.He didn't tell them they wer doing the wrong thing. He said they were doing it for the wrong goal.
"Do not labour for the food that perishes, but [do labour] for the food that endures to aeonous life." For this is the work of God [the work that God requires] so that you may believe in the one whom He sent. "
hina/so that introduces a purpose clause.It's a conjunction.

I agree with you on those points.You skipped a whole conversation.
God will not do the work of you eating, Believing, Chewing, Coming to Him, al the things he told them they need to do to Recieve him in faith.
It's backing the point of what's being said by showing action is needed or required.hina/so that introduces a purpose clause.
https://www.englishgrammar.org/adverb-clauses-purpose/
Adverb clauses of purpose
MARCH 5, 2011 -
Adverb clauses of purpose are introduced by the subordinating conjunctions that, so that, in order that and lest.
Notes
- We eat that we may live.
- He works hard so that he will become a millionaire.
- Put on your warm clothes lest you should catch a chill.
- Schools were closed early in order that students might reach home before the thunderstorm.
In an informal style, so that is more common than in order that.
These expressions are usually followed by modal auxiliary verbs such as will, can or may.
In an informal style that can be dropped after so; this is very common in American English.
- She wants to study in England so that she can perfect her English.
- We are starting now so that we will reach there before sunset.
Lest means that…not, and, therefore, it will be wrong to add another not in the following clause. Moreover it should be noted that the only auxiliary verb that can be used after lest is should.
- I have come early so that I can meet you. OR I have come early so I can meet you.
- Reserve your tickets early lest you miss the chance. OR Reserve your tickets early lest you should miss the chance. (NOT Reserve your tickets early lest you do not miss the chance.)"
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I travel a lot and for some reason end up in many liberal States. Must be God's design. But nevertheless, I typically am surrounded by those who believe in same sex and abortion and the right to pick your own gender. But what cracks me up is I love to wear t'shirts that have scripture, names of God, pictures representing God. Everyone of these people tell me, oh yeah been to church, read the Bible, blah blah blah I know what it says and know it is God's Word and all ...BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...I also believe in women's rights, people being what they are according to how they're born and yada yada yada.
All throughout this thread the common theme from the Reformed is God picked some to believe and the rest to not because they are unable to know about God/cannot hear. But I have hardly ever seen that at all in life. This tells me the Reformed go by what what's been written on Paper, aka their doctrine bi-laws and they NEVER get out and mingle with the real world. Because if they did, they would SEE their responses are stupid.
And oh yes, I've met the ones who said they would whip me if I don't leave because they want none of that God crap. Which of course makes me stand there longer to irritate them. Being a big strong guy has its benefits. One is that loud mouths only run their mouth and that's all they can do![]()
You go shopping, right?I have found myself thinking that I am at a disadvantage in my delicacy, but I'm reminded that I am called to be who God created me to be, not someone else. As my brother in Christ has said, "There are no 'little people' in God's eyes, since each soul has been created by Him for His glory and purposes..." (Created for a Purpose, JJParsons, Aug 26, 2022), even if I cannot fathom how I might accomplish it.