Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

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MerSee said:
6 Who will render to every man according to his works. 7 To them indeed, who according to patience in good work, seek glory and honour and incorruption, eternal life: 8 But to them that are contentious, and who obey not the truth, but give credit to iniquity, wrath and indignation. 9 Tribulation and anguish upon every soul of man that worketh evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Greek. 10 But glory, and honour, and peace to every one that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
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So you think you can earn salvation.

Good luck with that. the pharisees thought so too. They crucified Christ.
 
Jesus came to save that which was lost, yet HE was never lost :)
 
7thMoon said:
And he did.




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Unfortunately the subjunctive here indicates probability; I admit that I tie it to Stephen, but Stephen did die, and saw Jesus on his last day.
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Are you saying what Jesus to do and if one does it means it could not happen?

That would make Jesus a liar.

Do you have proof where Jesus lied to back your assumption here?
 
7thMoon said:
It not about believing; it is about trusting. And of course, works with faith that bring justification. Sorry about my mistakes on this board. I forget things sometimes.
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Again

For I have been saved (a completed action) By grace through faith.

Faith is a trust.

i trust God. Not myself..
 
7thMoon said:
The lost could be any innocent victim. All are spiritually alive, and God wakes all that die, whether they live in hell or the kingdom was their choice.
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The lost are not innocent. Paul said in romans 1 no one has an excuse.

Your right, it is their choice

whoever believes is no longer condemned, who does not believe is already condemned
 
Wondering if 7th Moon has named himself after the horror film by the same name.

I did not watch it as I do not care for that genre but it does sound as spiritually unsound as some ideas I have seen floating about on this thread

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Everlasting-Grace said:
So you think you can earn salvation.

Good luck with that. the pharisees thought so too. They crucified Christ.
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Salvation is never earned, and you have proven you don't understand the meaning of the term.

One has to be justified (or even, just) to enter the Kingdom of God and be seen.
 
Niki7 said:
Wondering if 7th Moon has named himself after the horror film by the same name.

I did not watch it as I do not care for that genre but it does sound as spiritually unsound as some ideas I have seen floating about on this thread

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It's about the seventh moon in the Hebrew calendar which is on the first day of the week.
 
FollowerofShiloh said:
And the dentist is hoping for it. I think some of them are narcissist. Telling you how dumb you are and why you're sitting in their chair for doing stupid things hahaha
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At the time I had a really good dentist (he has since moved too far to frequent). The lady who did the actual plumbing was also really good. Amazing the tiny tools they have for extracting all the tooth stuff.

The lady dentist I have now must have learned her trade in the army. She is rough . Efficient, but rough
 
7thMoon

Are you saying according to the conjunctive verb this verse might not be true?

40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
 
FollowerofShiloh said:
7thMoon

Are you saying according to the conjunctive verb this verse might not be true?

40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
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I am having trouble with Greek word order too. Notice should could be replaced with might, and you would actually have to see the messiah for the statement to be true.
 
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