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Is Christian nationalism a safe movement?


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rrcn

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I just browsed into this article.

It appears that this is a political movement rather than Christianity. Does this sound dangerous to anyone?
 

p_rehbein

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I just browsed into this article.

It appears that this is a political movement rather than Christianity. Does this sound dangerous to anyone?
(here, let me help you)

(excerpt from Article)

What is Christian nationalism?

Christian nationalism is the belief that the American nation is defined by Christianity, and that the government should take active steps to keep it that way. Popularly, Christian nationalists assert that America is and must remain a “Christian nation”—not merely as an observation about American history, but as a prescriptive program for what America must continue to be in the future. Scholars like Samuel Huntington have made a similar argument: that America is defined by its “Anglo-Protestant” past and that we will lose our identity and our freedom if we do not preserve our cultural inheritance.


(here)

What Is Christian Nationalism? | Christianity Today

(see, this way folks can know what you are speaking of)
 

ResidentAlien

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#3
I just browsed into this article.

It appears that this is a political movement rather than Christianity. Does this sound dangerous to anyone?
In certain ways it is very dangerous; one of the main ones being a careless disregard for the truth and of history. They claim to be the only ones who really know the truth; this is textbook cult behavior. CNs don't really see others as people, but as objects who can either help or hurt their cause. If you're not on board with their agenda, you're the enemy; and, in most cases, you're not even a true Christian. They claim to be Christian, but have a very skewed idea of what it means to be a Christian. And I agree, it's a political movement wrapped in "Christianity."
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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I don't have a strong opinion about it either way. All I know is that the world will grow worse and worse so not sure if making the US officially a Christian Nation will make an impact on it.

If it will make any people feel better, the whole world will definitely be a Christian nation after the Millennial Age!


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Tall_Timbers

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It seems like this is a movement from those who have the unBiblical end times idea that Christians/the church will essentially subdue the earth and make everything good and ready for Jesus's coming.

Christian Nationalists are misguided, however the enemies of the Church are attaching that moniker to all Christians in order to use it against the Church.
 

Melach

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im not for it. as christianity is separation from the world not pretending there is a 'christian nation'.
there are very few saved people on this earth, not very many. Jesus said shall He find faith on earth when He returns. doesn't sound like 1 billion people saved, which is all profession christians.,

its hard to preserve a christian identity in a nation with few christians
 

DRobinson

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What did Jesus command us to do?
Read Matthew 28:18-20.
We are to go and preach the Gospel, baptize those who believe, and teach them ALL that Jesus taught.
Leave the rest to Jesus because ALL power is given to Him and He will be with us until He returns, IF we do as He commanded.
 

ResidentAlien

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This is what Christian nationalism looks like. It's a post Trump posted Thursday on Truth Social. It's a video of two trucks barreling down the road with flags waving; "Trump 2024" is painted on the side of one of 'em. There's a picture of Joe Biden on the tailgate laying down and tied up. These are Donald Trump supporters.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112180192938619231
 

rrcn

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This is what Christian nationalism looks like. It's a post Trump posted Thursday on Truth Social. It's a video of two trucks barreling down the road with flags waving; "Trump 2024" is painted on the side of one of 'em. There's a picture of Joe Biden on the tailgate laying down and tied up. These are Donald Trump supporters.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112180192938619231
That appeared to be one of those magnetic signs you stick on your vehicle. We will probably see more, as soon as the present money raising scheme peters out.
 

ResidentAlien

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That appeared to be one of those magnetic signs you stick on your vehicle. We will probably see more, as soon as the present money raising scheme peters out.
Wouldn't be a bit surprised.
 

Aaron56

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montana123

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(here, let me help you)

(excerpt from Article)

What is Christian nationalism?

Christian nationalism is the belief that the American nation is defined by Christianity, and that the government should take active steps to keep it that way. Popularly, Christian nationalists assert that America is and must remain a “Christian nation”—not merely as an observation about American history, but as a prescriptive program for what America must continue to be in the future. Scholars like Samuel Huntington have made a similar argument: that America is defined by its “Anglo-Protestant” past and that we will lose our identity and our freedom if we do not preserve our cultural inheritance.
That is strange when America goes so much against God by allowing all religions to be practiced there even Satanism, and the new age movement that follow Lucifer, and will deceive the world.

That allows the pursuit of money, and material things, in which they scurry about trying to get all they can and millions of dollars, and billions of dollars is not enough for them, and the love of money is the root of all evil which the Republicans also pursue.

That has homosexuality, transgenders, and sexual perversion to a high level.

That loves worldliness, and enjoys sin on a higher level than any other nation that gets people ensnared in the flesh.

America is not a Christian nation but it is an occult nation that allows all religions to be practiced there.

The top leaders of the Republicans and Democrats are working together which is the Hegel System where they set up 2 opposing forces, and then harmonize them together with a balance between them for a new system that they believe is better than either system alone, and both together is the truth.

The majority of people will not accept both systems as the truth, and best way to operate, so they set up 2 opposing forces, and then bring them together.

America and Russia have been working together the whole time as the 2 opposing forces in the Hegel System.

Which the one world government will be a balance between democracy and communism, and the unified religious system will be a balance between atheism and spirituality, which they believe they are evolving to be spiritual, and there is no personal God, and their higher power the God of forces, or the power of nature.

America wants to do away with both the political parties for a new system for it was planned out.

Donald Trump was a Democrat but he became a Republican president to increase the fighting between the political parties by stirring up the patriots which is more effective to increase the fighting, and to gain the support, and trust of the Republicans to convince them to accept things that are compatible with the changes that will be made according to the new age movement for the Republicans are the most stubborn to accept those changes.

Convince them the microchip is a good idea to stop crime which he said if they had a biometric system in place for those on a temporary visa then 911 could of been avoided.

Which United Nations Agenda 21 one of the agendas is to move all people in to the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and the people become the police force of the cities.

Which they will be given a microchip linked to satellite which they can watch them, and know their location, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene.

This will cut out judges, lawyers, and the now known police force.

That is why they like BLM saying defund the police, and Antifa that is a police force of the citizens, and they say they do not depend on the police.

That is why they like the cities to be crime ridden to show that the police is not the best solution to fight crime, and they want the people to think the white officers are racist, and many cops are bad, and arrogant, loving the power they have.

To convince them to get the Covid shot which Trump said he got the shot.

To get them to accept a one world government which he said he is against it to play the opposing force, and to convince them that he is against it to please them, but then he will say he is for a one world government for it is the best thing to do given the current situation in the world which is a set up.

He claims to be a Christian, and Christianity only to gain more support, and trust of the Republicans, and to make Christianity look bad for it will offend the religions in America, and in the world.

His daughter who is a Jewish convert, and his son in law, follow the Kabbalah which is a mystic, occult, interpretation of the Bible, and they were both on his staff for Trump is following the new age movement plan.

Trump was put in place to make the Republicans look bad by them being aggressive, racist, exclusive not accepting other religions, or practices that are not Christian.

Joe Biden was put in place to appear incompetent, and makes bad decisions, to make the Democrats look bad.

For they are going to do away with both parties which the government wants people to think it is corrupt, and has terrible leaders, so they will want a change which it will come.

The new age movement believes people are evolving to be spiritual, and there is no personal God.

That is their religion, and reality, and that is what the top leaders of the government are trying to establish.

They believe the next evolutionary step of humans is the 5th root race, 6th sub-race, and America is the germ of the next evolutionary step.

The United Nations supports new age organizations as is with them as well as Science.

Which Science says humans are not from the earth, and the world needs to prepare for an alien encounter.

That is why they talk so much about aliens, and want to convince people there is aliens.

And also why they have articles now saying we found this, and we found that, which gives us a different perspective on evolution so they can steer people towards the new age movement's perspective of evolution.

America is not a Christian nation but it is an occult nation.

And they laughed at the way they pulled the wool over the Christians eyes, and made them think it was a Christian nation, and the presidents said in God we trust to keep the Christians from raising a fuss that would of put a damper in their plan.

And they laughed, and toasted each other with expensive alcohol, at the way the Christians were divided, and fought with each other, giving them less power.

And the Christians did not band together as one to go against their ways, and what they were trying to accomplish, for they did not know the plan, neither could they figure it out for they were convinced we are a Christian nation.

And the plan continued, and they laughed, and wined and dined, and twirled and danced, and frolicked about playfully like children for the Christians were not aware of what they were doing, and they thought they were wise with much wisdom, and cunning.

They had to allow all religions to be in America for they want a unified religious system with all religions interpreted by the new age movement.

It is a slow implementing of the plan like a song played on a piano and the people say it is the truth, and then they change one note and let it play for a while and the people say it is the truth, and then they change another note and let it play for a while and the people say it is the truth, until it is a whole new song and the people say it is the truth, the new age movement.

Which the time will come that people will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but according to their own lusts, the new age movement that shall come out at the latter times.

Just like the presidents saying in God we trust but really of a different belief I believe the forefathers were doing the same thing, and the plan was already at play.

They do not believe the New Age Christ will help them to have peace, advance, and evolve, until the nations come together as one to work for peace on earth.

After WW1, League of Nations to get the world to cooperate for peace.

After WW2, United Nations.

And now is time for a one world government.

That is what the Ukraine war is about to have an excuse for Russia and NATO to have a conflict which is a scare tactic to scare the people of the world to accept a one world government for it could escalate in to a nuclear war that would get the nations involved as they chose sides, and could devastate the planet.

Also they have an excuse to have a one world government because of the conflict as well as other conflicts.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change.

North Korea, and their threatening America, and saying they are preparing for war with America.

All a set up.

Russia and America with the cold war.

All a set up.

China saying they have their own New World Order plan, and Russia wanted to take over the world, and Hitler, and Iran threatening America and Israel, and the Taiwan incident which America could get involved, among others.

All a set up.

As soon as Israel and Hamas started fighting the nations started dividing themselves spewing out threats, and warnings, choosing sides.

All a set up.

They are setting the stage for the New Age Christ to negotiate peace in the Middle East.
 

rrcn

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That is strange when America goes so much against God by allowing all religions to be practiced there even Satanism, and the new age movement that follow Lucifer, and will deceive the world.

That allows the pursuit of money, and material things, in which they scurry about trying to get all they can and millions of dollars, and billions of dollars is not enough for them, and the love of money is the root of all evil which the Republicans also pursue.

That has homosexuality, transgenders, and sexual perversion to a high level.

That loves worldliness, and enjoys sin on a higher level than any other nation that gets people ensnared in the flesh.

America is not a Christian nation but it is an occult nation that allows all religions to be practiced there.

The top leaders of the Republicans and Democrats are working together which is the Hegel System where they set up 2 opposing forces, and then harmonize them together with a balance between them for a new system that they believe is better than either system alone, and both together is the truth.

The majority of people will not accept both systems as the truth, and best way to operate, so they set up 2 opposing forces, and then bring them together.

America and Russia have been working together the whole time as the 2 opposing forces in the Hegel System.

Which the one world government will be a balance between democracy and communism, and the unified religious system will be a balance between atheism and spirituality, which they believe they are evolving to be spiritual, and there is no personal God, and their higher power the God of forces, or the power of nature.

America wants to do away with both the political parties for a new system for it was planned out.

Donald Trump was a Democrat but he became a Republican president to increase the fighting between the political parties by stirring up the patriots which is more effective to increase the fighting, and to gain the support, and trust of the Republicans to convince them to accept things that are compatible with the changes that will be made according to the new age movement for the Republicans are the most stubborn to accept those changes.

Convince them the microchip is a good idea to stop crime which he said if they had a biometric system in place for those on a temporary visa then 911 could of been avoided.

Which United Nations Agenda 21 one of the agendas is to move all people in to the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and the people become the police force of the cities.

Which they will be given a microchip linked to satellite which they can watch them, and know their location, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene.

This will cut out judges, lawyers, and the now known police force.

That is why they like BLM saying defund the police, and Antifa that is a police force of the citizens, and they say they do not depend on the police.

That is why they like the cities to be crime ridden to show that the police is not the best solution to fight crime, and they want the people to think the white officers are racist, and many cops are bad, and arrogant, loving the power they have.

To convince them to get the Covid shot which Trump said he got the shot.

To get them to accept a one world government which he said he is against it to play the opposing force, and to convince them that he is against it to please them, but then he will say he is for a one world government for it is the best thing to do given the current situation in the world which is a set up.

He claims to be a Christian, and Christianity only to gain more support, and trust of the Republicans, and to make Christianity look bad for it will offend the religions in America, and in the world.

His daughter who is a Jewish convert, and his son in law, follow the Kabbalah which is a mystic, occult, interpretation of the Bible, and they were both on his staff for Trump is following the new age movement plan.

Trump was put in place to make the Republicans look bad by them being aggressive, racist, exclusive not accepting other religions, or practices that are not Christian.

Joe Biden was put in place to appear incompetent, and makes bad decisions, to make the Democrats look bad.

For they are going to do away with both parties which the government wants people to think it is corrupt, and has terrible leaders, so they will want a change which it will come.

The new age movement believes people are evolving to be spiritual, and there is no personal God.

That is their religion, and reality, and that is what the top leaders of the government are trying to establish.

They believe the next evolutionary step of humans is the 5th root race, 6th sub-race, and America is the germ of the next evolutionary step.

The United Nations supports new age organizations as is with them as well as Science.

Which Science says humans are not from the earth, and the world needs to prepare for an alien encounter.

That is why they talk so much about aliens, and want to convince people there is aliens.

And also why they have articles now saying we found this, and we found that, which gives us a different perspective on evolution so they can steer people towards the new age movement's perspective of evolution.

America is not a Christian nation but it is an occult nation.

And they laughed at the way they pulled the wool over the Christians eyes, and made them think it was a Christian nation, and the presidents said in God we trust to keep the Christians from raising a fuss that would of put a damper in their plan.

And they laughed, and toasted each other with expensive alcohol, at the way the Christians were divided, and fought with each other, giving them less power.

And the Christians did not band together as one to go against their ways, and what they were trying to accomplish, for they did not know the plan, neither could they figure it out for they were convinced we are a Christian nation.

And the plan continued, and they laughed, and wined and dined, and twirled and danced, and frolicked about playfully like children for the Christians were not aware of what they were doing, and they thought they were wise with much wisdom, and cunning.

They had to allow all religions to be in America for they want a unified religious system with all religions interpreted by the new age movement.

It is a slow implementing of the plan like a song played on a piano and the people say it is the truth, and then they change one note and let it play for a while and the people say it is the truth, and then they change another note and let it play for a while and the people say it is the truth, until it is a whole new song and the people say it is the truth, the new age movement.

Which the time will come that people will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but according to their own lusts, the new age movement that shall come out at the latter times.

Just like the presidents saying in God we trust but really of a different belief I believe the forefathers were doing the same thing, and the plan was already at play.

They do not believe the New Age Christ will help them to have peace, advance, and evolve, until the nations come together as one to work for peace on earth.

After WW1, League of Nations to get the world to cooperate for peace.

After WW2, United Nations.

And now is time for a one world government.

That is what the Ukraine war is about to have an excuse for Russia and NATO to have a conflict which is a scare tactic to scare the people of the world to accept a one world government for it could escalate in to a nuclear war that would get the nations involved as they chose sides, and could devastate the planet.

Also they have an excuse to have a one world government because of the conflict as well as other conflicts.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change.

North Korea, and their threatening America, and saying they are preparing for war with America.

All a set up.

Russia and America with the cold war.

All a set up.

China saying they have their own New World Order plan, and Russia wanted to take over the world, and Hitler, and Iran threatening America and Israel, and the Taiwan incident which America could get involved, among others.

All a set up.

As soon as Israel and Hamas started fighting the nations started dividing themselves spewing out threats, and warnings, choosing sides.

All a set up.

They are setting the stage for the New Age Christ to negotiate peace in the Middle East.
This seems to be a private interpretation as there are no Bible references.
 
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It appears that this is a political movement rather than Christianity. Does this sound dangerous to anyone?

Only to those that support satanic nationalism which is what the deep state supports.

The entire world supports the satanic one world government so they are working on a plan to make all nations submit to the one world government and it's one world leader which is the anti-christ who is a man possessed by satan himself.

So one must ask themself if it's better to follow the crowd and submit to satan, or agree with them that seek to keep turn the US away from the satanic one world government?
 
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I don't have a strong opinion about it either way. All I know is that the world will grow worse and worse so not sure if making the US officially a Christian Nation will make an impact on it.

At least it would help shut down the liberal policies that are destroying this nation.

The liberals think if one does not agree with them then they are traitors. That needs to stop.
 

Nehemiah6

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The liberals think if one does not agree with them then they are traitors. That needs to stop.
In response let me say this:
1. The days of "liberals" are long gone. There is only one direction that liberals can go and that is Communism.

2. The Democrats are NOT "Democrats" but have gone to the extreme Left and beyond into INSANITY.

3. The accurate description of the "Democratic Party" today is this:
Marxist/Leninist/Communist/Fascist/Anarchist/Racist. In brief "Communist".

4. They have all turned traitor and are selling out the USA.

5. They are all promoting the hatred of Israel and the aiding and abetting of Hamas terrorists.

6. Now Biden just mocked the whole Christian world by declaring Easter to be "Transgender Visibility Day". How much more evil will this man do before he is struck down? And even after there has been a huge outcry he refuses to apologize.
 

Magenta

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Now Biden just mocked the whole Christian world by declaring Easter to be "Transgender Visibility Day". How much more
evil will this man do before he is struck down? And even after there has been a huge outcry he refuses to apologize.
The International Transgender Day of Visibility was created on March 31, 2009.
 

rrcn

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In response let me say this:
1. The days of "liberals" are long gone. There is only one direction that liberals can go and that is Communism.

2. The Democrats are NOT "Democrats" but have gone to the extreme Left and beyond into INSANITY.

3. The accurate description of the "Democratic Party" today is this:
Marxist/Leninist/Communist/Fascist/Anarchist/Racist. In brief "Communist".

4. They have all turned traitor and are selling out the USA.

5. They are all promoting the hatred of Israel and the aiding and abetting of Hamas terrorists.

6. Now Biden just mocked the whole Christian world by declaring Easter to be "Transgender Visibility Day". How much more evil will this man do before he is struck down? And even after there has been a huge outcry he refuses to apologize.
Would you say that atheism is an element of Babylon in the last days?

[Rev 14:8 KJV] 8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
 

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Wanting a nation to follow Jesus and the teachings of Jesus is a good thing, but forcing people is wrong. Not even God forces, He gives us freedom of choice.

If America or any other nation wants people to follow Jesus and the principles of Christianity they needs to be done through love and example.

Don't forget HISTORY.
A Christian power controlled the political powers in the dark ages. As a result Christians were killed by Christians. They forced the Christian doctrines on everyone and those that didn't obey the rules were killed.

A huge amount of blood was shed because people choose to follow God rather then man.
If political powers enforce doctrines that are contrary to the Bible, what will you do?
Even if Christian nationalism sounds good, it is not for us to force.