Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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And God can do the opposite as well. He can soften hearts to make them pliable and receptive to truth. He does this under a promise in the New Covenant whereby he gives his people a new heart. He doesn't just "repair" the old heart, but actually gives us a new one! So, my question is: Can anyone with their old heart repent and believe the gospel in order to receive the new? Or do they need nothing less than that heart transplant to believe and repent? What sayest thou?
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Not all of the elect are currently born-again. 
"Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.
- Daniel 12:10
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Not in my bible it doesn't. Verse 7 reads:
Rom 3:7
7 Someone might argue, "If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?"
NIV
Verse 9 starts Paul's CONCLUSION about everything he has said previously. In chapters 1 and 2 he's been talking about the Gentiles and the Jews. This why he says in the part B of v. "We have already (previously) made the charge that Jews and Gentiles ALIKE are under sin..". Then in v. 10 he begins quoting various Psalms showing how those OT verses apply to all humanity. They don't apply to just the Jews!
Rom 3:7
7 Someone might argue, "If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?"
NIV
Verse 9 starts Paul's CONCLUSION about everything he has said previously. In chapters 1 and 2 he's been talking about the Gentiles and the Jews. This why he says in the part B of v.
"We have already (previously) made the charge that Jews and Gentiles ALIKE are under sin..". Then in v. 10 he begins quoting various Psalms showing how those OT verses apply to all humanity. They don't apply to just the Jews!
Considering that my Grandpa ended up teaching Hebrew to the Bible colleges in Texas, Oklahoma, Florida and was paid to go around the Churches connected to the organization his minister license was ordained with from tells me God singled him out for this purpose. God knew what my Grandpa would do once he understood the truth. And my Grandpa did just that.
There's video's today of Jews being shown Isaiah 53 and they can see the truth of Jesus but they won't go against the Jews and God keeps them blind. My Grandpa went against the other Jews about this in the early 1900's.
There's video's today of Jews being shown Isaiah 53 and they can see the truth of Jesus but they won't go against the Jews and God keeps them blind. My Grandpa went against the other Jews about this in the early 1900's.
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1 Corinthians 15:1-5
1 Now I make known unto you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you have received, and wherein you stand; 2 By which also you are saved, if you hold fast after what manner I preached unto you, unless you have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all, which I also received: how that Christ died for our sins, according to the scriptures: 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day, according to the scriptures: 5 And that he was seen by Cephas; and after that by the eleven.
1 Now I make known unto you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you have received, and wherein you stand; 2 By which also you are saved, if you hold fast after what manner I preached unto you, unless you have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all, which I also received: how that Christ died for our sins, according to the scriptures: 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day, according to the scriptures: 5 And that he was seen by Cephas; and after that by the eleven.
When my Dad was alive and preaching he had a man who came in during church service one Sunday night he was the guest speaker. He walked in and ran to the altar and screamed begging my Dad to help him find Jesus. My Dad led him to the Lord right there in that moment. Afterward, my Dad asked the man, can you tell me what was happening in your life that brought you to this point now? The man said, he grew up in an atheist home, from generations of atheist. They never talked about God or had God on their minds.
He said that afternoon, Sunday, some men he owed money to came to collect. He said he didn't have it and was completely in the belief they would kill him. And when they found him and caught and beat him and tied him and taped his mouth shut and they were in the middle of mixing cement to hold his feet and they planned to throw him alive overboard a boat later that evening into a nearby lake. His mind was racing and he did not know who he could imagine would help or what he should do.
He said he remembered a guy once he saw talking about this Jesus character. So he said, I just kept thinking Jesus if you are real and help me I will serve you and do whatever you want. For hours he kept thinking this. Then it was starting to get dark and then men grabbed him, put him on the boat, and was on their way to drop him over into the water.
He said this bright light appeared and spoke. It scared the men where they jumped off the boat. The light stayed with the man tied up until a boat full of men fishing came near him. They saw he was tied up with duct tape on his mouth and some got into the boat and untied him and helped him to shore and busted the cement off his feet. After thanking those men he went to the first church in that immediate area. It just happened to be where my Dad was preaching.
This man had no idea who God was, his family never believed in God nor talked about the existence of God. But this man remember seeing this guy talking about Jesus. He had no other options. So he tried to talk to this Jesus character and plead with Him. The guy ended up being a Pastor and having one of the biggest AoG churches in his area after that.
That is Proof of how the DEAD can seek God.
He said that afternoon, Sunday, some men he owed money to came to collect. He said he didn't have it and was completely in the belief they would kill him. And when they found him and caught and beat him and tied him and taped his mouth shut and they were in the middle of mixing cement to hold his feet and they planned to throw him alive overboard a boat later that evening into a nearby lake. His mind was racing and he did not know who he could imagine would help or what he should do.
He said he remembered a guy once he saw talking about this Jesus character. So he said, I just kept thinking Jesus if you are real and help me I will serve you and do whatever you want. For hours he kept thinking this. Then it was starting to get dark and then men grabbed him, put him on the boat, and was on their way to drop him over into the water.
He said this bright light appeared and spoke. It scared the men where they jumped off the boat. The light stayed with the man tied up until a boat full of men fishing came near him. They saw he was tied up with duct tape on his mouth and some got into the boat and untied him and helped him to shore and busted the cement off his feet. After thanking those men he went to the first church in that immediate area. It just happened to be where my Dad was preaching.
This man had no idea who God was, his family never believed in God nor talked about the existence of God. But this man remember seeing this guy talking about Jesus. He had no other options. So he tried to talk to this Jesus character and plead with Him. The guy ended up being a Pastor and having one of the biggest AoG churches in his area after that.
That is Proof of how the DEAD can seek God.