Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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Jesus said these things to His Disciples
1. 47 and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
2. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
3. 38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”
39 Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive
So Jesus said to His Disciples 1. Repent, 2. be Baptized, 3. receive the Holy Spirit
1. 47 and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
2. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
3. 38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”
39 Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive
So Jesus said to His Disciples 1. Repent, 2. be Baptized, 3. receive the Holy Spirit
Paul wrote this about water baptism: (Paul is saying water baptism is like being buried in death like Jesus was)
3 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
4 We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life
Jesus said these things to His Disciples
1. 47 and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
2. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
3. 38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”
39 Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive
So Jesus said to His Disciples 1. Repent, 2. be Baptized, 3. receive the Holy Spirit
Peter is saying what Jesus said:
38 And Peter said to them: Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for remission of your sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
I ADMIT I AM SAYING WHAT THE JESUS, PETER, AND PAUL SAID IN THE BIBLE!
3 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
4 We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life
Jesus said these things to His Disciples
1. 47 and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
2. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
3. 38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”
39 Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive
So Jesus said to His Disciples 1. Repent, 2. be Baptized, 3. receive the Holy Spirit
Peter is saying what Jesus said:
38 And Peter said to them: Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for remission of your sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
I ADMIT I AM SAYING WHAT THE JESUS, PETER, AND PAUL SAID IN THE BIBLE!
Yes, this is how it happens.
To harden ones heart is to STRENGTHEN THEM. God hardens people hearts by putting truth in their faces. the more they deny the truth and replace it with their lie. the more hard or powerful their heart (will) comes to reject the truth,
Notice with Pharoah, he started small. and each time he got more and more powerful plague,, so that when he killed the first born.. Pharoah still rejected the truth, and went after the people he let go and sent his army to their deaths.
A person can harden their heart so much they will never see the truth.
an example would be a person who believes 2 + 2 = 5. The more you put an their face or show them 2 + 2 = 4, and the more they continue to deny it. the more hardened they are to the truth.
To harden ones heart is to STRENGTHEN THEM. God hardens people hearts by putting truth in their faces. the more they deny the truth and replace it with their lie. the more hard or powerful their heart (will) comes to reject the truth,
Notice with Pharoah, he started small. and each time he got more and more powerful plague,, so that when he killed the first born.. Pharoah still rejected the truth, and went after the people he let go and sent his army to their deaths.
A person can harden their heart so much they will never see the truth.
an example would be a person who believes 2 + 2 = 5. The more you put an their face or show them 2 + 2 = 4, and the more they continue to deny it. the more hardened they are to the truth.
This is not water baptism here. This is holy spirit baptism. God literally baptizesd you into his death, and buried you in that same baptism. no water is involved.
So your admitting I am right, and you believe water baptism is required. Yet you yelled at me for saying you never said that.
Give me a break.
PS Mark 16 is questionable.
1. it is not in the oldest manuscripts
2. It does not make sense (if a child of God eats poison or gets bit, they will die.. there is no guarantee they will nto die)
3. At the very least. It does not say water, if could be spirit baptism, which is automatic.
finally. Read the book of John, Jesus never mentions baptism, he always mentioned believe only
as for acts. again, study the passage, it does nto say what you think it says
So your admitting I am right, and you believe water baptism is required. Yet you yelled at me for saying you never said that.
Give me a break.
PS Mark 16 is questionable.
1. it is not in the oldest manuscripts
2. It does not make sense (if a child of God eats poison or gets bit, they will die.. there is no guarantee they will nto die)
3. At the very least. It does not say water, if could be spirit baptism, which is automatic.
finally. Read the book of John, Jesus never mentions baptism, he always mentioned believe only
as for acts. again, study the passage, it does nto say what you think it says