Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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well you know mankind is born with inherited sin.
Is there any truth in the sin there born with ?
Then are they only born with sin that entered there ancestors, what about knowledge, are they born with any knowledge ?
I mean they would be brain dead surely unable to move.
Then what about the knowledge of Good and evil is that not in them either only sin.
You have no idea what me being ugly is. I gave scripture that point blank answered your questions and you rejected them. So I told you what you did. How is that being ugly? You definitely hate the truth by calling it ugly.
Does the "inspired" text have:
And they wrote: I shall make man in image and in likeness, rather than: “Let us make man in our image and in our likeness” (Genesis 1:26), as from there too one could mistakenly conclude that there are multiple powers and that God has human form.(Megillah 9a.12)
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Instead of: “Come, let us go down, and there confound their language” (Genesis 11:7), which indicates multiple authorities, they wrote in the singular: Come, let me go down, and there confound their language.
(Megillah 9a.14)
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Talmud references are given.
And they wrote: I shall make man in image and in likeness, rather than: “Let us make man in our image and in our likeness” (Genesis 1:26), as from there too one could mistakenly conclude that there are multiple powers and that God has human form.(Megillah 9a.12)
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And:
Instead of: “Come, let us go down, and there confound their language” (Genesis 11:7), which indicates multiple authorities, they wrote in the singular: Come, let me go down, and there confound their language.
(Megillah 9a.14)
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Talmud references are given.
The verses before was Joshua making them choose one way or another. They chose the LORD. That is about them choosing God as their God.
What happened during the Fall distorted mankind in every aspect. Truth will always be truth. Man's ability to discern truth has been compromised.
Wrong again. I don't reject the word of God. I reject your understanding of the scripture.
Indeed!
Talmud/Hebrew explanation:
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The tractate Megillah58 and the minor tractate of the Babylonian Talmud called Sofrim59 implied that in Genesis 1:26 (let us make) should be interpreted that God was the sole Maker [I will make].
We read how people heard the Gospel and shows us they "stopped their ears" and you think there's a dual possible meaning when it's not. So you do reject it because I applied no meaning to it and used it as it is written.
They were quotes either from the LXX or the vorlage autographs. Elohim is not a word used by Jesus, and it happens to be plural too.
It's Hebrew Torah and the pre-incarnate Jesus said He was Elohim to Moses after the Burning Bush
ו וַיֹּאמֶר, אָנֹכִי אֱלֹהֵי אָבִיךָ, אֱלֹהֵי אַבְרָהָם אֱלֹהֵי יִצְחָק, וֵאלֹהֵי יַעֲקֹב; וַיַּסְתֵּר מֹשֶׁה, פָּנָיו, כִּי יָרֵא, מֵהַבִּיט אֶל-הָאֱלֹהִים.6
Moreover He said: 'I am the Elohim of thy father, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob.' And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon Elohim.
The El of Abraham, the El of Isaac, and the El of Jacob. It would be silly to say this and have Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob be in soul sleep. Further, the autographs of Old Testament were in Aramaic syntax and were used to make the Targums. Further, there is no pre-incarnate Jesus, except 2 other Israelites named Jesus.
You only shared verses that show people responding to the gospel. At other times, people responded positively. There was nothing in the scripture you shared explaining why they did what they did; only what they did. In Acts 2 we do know they heard. Nowhere in the verses you shared does it ever say they heard.
Biblical hearing engenders understanding. It's clear from the response in your example that understanding was not part of the equation. When understanding was present in Acts 2, they asked what should they do. In your example, they stopped their ears and stoned a man of God. They clearly didn't possess understanding.
You must Jehova Witness to deny who Christ is from the Torah and it's Hebrew, Aramaic is in the Prophets.
Not so. Joshua said...choose this day who you will serve...I believe some choices were also given.