Can the nonelect ever be born-again? (2 Kings 22:27) With the elect thou wilt be elect: and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.
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Here we go again, how many times do I have to remind you guys that it is a deadly sin to add your private words and views in an effort to twist and lie about what God actually said.
God said He would cast those who add and take away from what He said, into the lake of fire.
You imposed your false teaching to what God said. He said "love your enemies", He didn't say "I love your enemies" so stop with the lies and false representations of what God said.
More lies, I have searched the entire Bible to find a single shred of evidence to support your wild theory that God wishes for something.
What I did find was the exact opposite opposite, where God commands something and it is done. So there's no wishing for the magic fairy to come along and save the day with God. That's what sinners do, God is almighty. Why would an almighty God have to wish, it's just ludicrous to suggest such a thing
I'm not sure why your quoting all of these verses to me, you know I love everyone. Regardless of who they are, I do so because I have been commanded to do so. I don't love them because I'm a really nice guy, but because I want to obey the Lords commandments.
I get the sense that you believe love is all hugs and kisses, well my understanding is that it can be extremely ugly and unwelcome.
For example, would it be an act of love if a Doctor didn't tell his patient that they have a serious disease which needs urgent medical attention.
What sort of love would it be to keep the awful truth of the gospel from lost sinners, who hate you for sharing it
False doctrine again, I asked for a single shreds of evidence to support your theory that God loves the whole of creation. I'm still waiting for anything at all, I won't hold my breath because I know it doesn't exist so you wont find it
My Bible says to preach the whole counsel of God.
Thank you for your advice to only preach and share only one aspect of the gospel to lost sinners. I have tried to approach lost sinners and tell them "Jesus loves you". But they just said, "that's nice to know" have a good day. That message condemns them to a false sense of security, where they now think that God just winks at their sin and still loves them no matter how they live.
So many child rapists, murderers and other sinners are out there doing their thing with your blessing because you told them Jesus loves them. Well I reject your theory as delusional and not based on any Biblical principals
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Low Latin zelosus (full of zeal), in turn from the Greek word ζῆλος (zēlos), sometimes "jealousy", but more
often in a positive sense "emulation, ardour, zeal" (with a root connoting "to boil, ferment"; or "yeast"). The
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Exodus 32:14wrong God is seen doing just that FYI God can do anything
So the Lord changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people.
Jeremiah 26:19
Did Hezekiah king of Judah and all Judah put him to death? Did he not fear the Lord and
entreat the favor of the Lord, and the Lord changed His mind about the misfortune which
He had pronounced against them? But we are committing a great evil against ourselves.”
Amos 7:3
The Lord changed His mind about this.
“It shall not be,” said the Lord.
Amos 7:6
The Lord changed His mind about this.
“This too shall not be,” said the Lord God.
Jonah 3:10
When God saw their deeds, that they turned from their wicked way, then God relented concerning
the calamity which He had declared He would bring upon them. And He did not do it.
Jeremiah 18:8
if that nation against which I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent concerning the calamity I planned to bring on it.
Jeremiah 26:13
Now therefore amend your ways and your deeds and obey the voice of the Lord your God; and
the Lord will change His mind about the misfortune which He has pronounced against you.
Jeremiah 42:10
‘If you will indeed stay in this land, then I will build you up and not tear you down, and I will
plant you and not uproot you; for I will relent concerning the calamity that I have inflicted on you.
2 Samuel 24:16
When the angel stretched out his hand toward Jerusalem to destroy it, the Lord relented from
the calamity and said to the angel who destroyed the people, “It is enough! Now relax your
hand!” And the angel of the Lord was by the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite.
The Book of John4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
If the bad situation you mentioned is really caused by the problems I mentioned, I will bear the consequences.Just as Ezekiel has the responsibility to look after the behavior of Israeli families.
So, then, how do you think we should preach the gospel?Tell people that God is here to punish you sinners.Such words have been said by any other religion.So what is the Gospel different from other religions?
How do you think it should be told?Maybe you should start a paid gospel class.People naturally come to study.
Commonly, unlike envy where people resent other people's property, people are jealous for things that are rightfully theirs. And in God's case, He is the rightful recipient of our devotion. He doesn't 'make' us adore Him apart from first loving us.
And regarding the comment something along the nonsense that God creates evil people just to show His mercy by destroying them...I couldn't bring myself to 'repost' it...
This is actually held to be, and continues to erroneously taught as, the true interpretation of the biblical reality that God shows mercy to such vessels whose ultimate destiny is wrath. Because these vessels of wrath harden their hearts to the Gospel, day after day after day after day after day...continually, after the likes of Pharoah, and a very looong period of suffering them another day as another opportunity to repent of their pride and unbelief is granted, even if, ultimately, they remain in unbelief. This, and not that, demonstrates Gods mercy and his character of longsuffering, and not 'creating them with the sole purposes and intents upon destroying them.
This is actually held to be, and continues to erroneously taught as, the true interpretation of the biblical reality that God shows mercy to such vessels whose ultimate destiny is wrath. Because these vessels of wrath harden their hearts to the Gospel, day after day after day after day after day...continually, after the likes of Pharoah, and a very looong period of suffering them another day as another opportunity to repent of their pride and unbelief is granted, even if, ultimately, they remain in unbelief. This, and not that, demonstrates Gods mercy and his character of longsuffering, and not 'creating them with the sole purposes and intents upon destroying them.
That’s not what you said. You stated God knows everyone before he created the world. Big difference. And btw, God made the statement concerning the nation that came from Esau in Malachi.
God never gave us any options on how to share and preach the gospel. He only commanded us to;
Mark 16:15
And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
Nothing there about selling the gospel like a consumer product and making it attractive by offering free love.
To the contrary, we see His disciples preaching the complete undiluted gospel message. They usually started with a warning to repent and forsake everything else and follow the Lord.
Jesus never sent the Disciples out to try to attract new converts, by using crafty sales tactics as Churches do today. Their message was rejected by the vast majority and they were all eventually killed for preaching hate speech.
That's what has always happened to His followers. The world hates the truth so much that they are hell bent on killing anyone who dares to speak it
God knows everyone and everything before He created the world. You can't put God into your box and treat Him like you own Him. You don't get to decide what He can do and what Hew can't do. The truth is He decides what you can do and what you can't do and He made that decision before He crated the world.
The problem most people have with God is, they have a completely false view of who He is and what He can do. Most people, including yourself place so many limits on Him, you treat Him like He's some kind of man and not the almighty God.
Every time I mention the fact that He knows everything and that He controls everything, most people gat very angry because they don't want Him to poses that much power. They prefer the weak god who needs our help to do anything. But my Bible says He doesn't need us for anything.
He is perfectly happy and complete, by Himself He doesn't need anything from us but we need everything from Him because we are dead without him.
I learn everything I know about God from the his word. Can you post scripture please? Thanks!
Ephisians 1:4
As he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and unspotted in his sight in charity.
You need to previous verse to get the context of what was chosen us in Christ. The spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ are in accordance to what God has chosen to give to those in Christ. This choosing was before the foundation of the world. The choosing was the spiritual blessings in Christ. The word "according" takes the context back to what was previously said.
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
The verse does not read (as Calvinists like to read it), as he has chosen us to be in him before the foundation of the world.