Prophecies about Israel

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Shilohsfoal

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
No, not at all. That is talking about an actual person who will heal from a wound. It has nothing to do with a country.
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So you believe all the saints are given into the hand of one single person.Not a goverment.Not a country.

Just one person on his own without an army or country has control over all the saints.



Revelation 13
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.



You want to let us know how one man can do all that?
 
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Shilohsfoal

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
No, not at all. That is talking about an actual person who will heal from a wound. It has nothing to do with a country.
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I have a question for you.

God said that he would make the descendents of israel who keep his covenant a holy nation and a kingdom of priests.

Exodus 19:5-6
Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.


Now in revelation 20:6,we find that God has kept his word and has made the descendents of Israel who kept his covenant a holy nation and a kingdom of priests.


Revelation 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


So here is the question.

Who governs the descendents of Israel who keep God's covenant before they are resurected and given the kingdom of Israel?
 
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ThereRoseaLamb

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Shilohsfoal said:
So you believe all the saints are given into the hand of one single person.Not a goverment.Not a country.
You want to let us know how one man can do all that?
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Because that man is the anti-christ and will do supernatural things. He will be able to make statues speak.
 
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Shilohsfoal

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
The saints won't be here.
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You believe these saints that he overcomes won't be here?

Where do you believe they are?

Revelation 13
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
 
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Shilohsfoal

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
The saints won't be here.
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I have a question for you.

God said that he would make the descendents of israel who keep his covenant a holy nation and a kingdom of priests.

Exodus 19:5-6
Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.


Now in revelation 20:6,we find that God has kept his word and has made the descendents of Israel who kept his covenant a holy nation and a kingdom of priests.


Revelation 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


So here is the question.

Who governs the land of Israel before the descendents of Israel who keep the covenant of God are resurected and given the land of Israel to rule?
 
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ThereRoseaLamb

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Shilohsfoal said:
You believe these saints that he overcomes won't be here?

Where do you believe they are?

Revelation 13
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
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Not when the anti-christ reigns, no, the saints won't be here.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Not when the anti-christ reigns, no, the saints won't be here.
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So who is reigning when the beast beheads the saints ?

Revelation 13
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb

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Shilohsfoal said:
So who is reigning when the beast beheads the saints ?

Revelation 13
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
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Are you talking about the people saved after the saints have been raptured?
 
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Shilohsfoal

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Are you talking about the people saved after the saints have been raptured?
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No.
I'm talking about the saints who are beheaded by the beast.The saints in this verse.

Revelation 13
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.


You said these saints are not here.
Where are they?
 
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Stan_the_Man said:
God said Israel WILL become a nation again and they did!

That one has definitely has been fulfilled.






That's not true.






That does not mean the rest of us won't see Him, those that HAVE accepted the Lord.







Because they are still not submitted to the Lord.

Jew or gentile, not submitting fully to the Lord leaves the door open to the devil for him to control portions of your life.


I'm surprised so far! I figured posting this would bring out the antisemites

I guess they''ll be along shortly. The Jew haters.
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yuh hear me now ... no rapture until the Jews are ready. "what will their reconcilliation mean but life from the dead" the times of the Gentiles will be fulfilled.

And the Jews see Him whom they have pierced.
 
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Evmur said:
yuh hear me now ... no rapture until the Jews are ready. "what will their reconcilliation mean but life from the dead" the times of the Gentiles will be fulfilled.

And the Jews see Him whom they have pierced.
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No, you are confusing the rapture with Jesus' second return when He saved Israel from being wiped off the face of the earth.

The rapture will happen sometime after the anti-christ is revealed to the world (2 Thessalonians 2:1-3) whether the Jews are ready or not.

They've had over 2000 years to get ready, so they have had ample opportunity and will not accept Jesus until they see Him return and take over the world which is why the rejected Him the first time He came because He did not take over the world.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
We're stuck on go here. How do you figure the beast is Israel and not a person?
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Think about it.Think real hard about everything Jesus said in the gospel about the leaders of Jerusalem.And think about this.

I have a question for you.

God said that he would make the descendents of israel who keep his covenant a holy nation and a kingdom of priests.

Exodus 19:5-6
Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.


Now in revelation 20:6,we find that God has kept his word and has made the descendents of Israel who kept his covenant a holy nation and a kingdom of priests.


Revelation 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


So here is the question.

Who governs the land of Israel before the descendents of Israel who keep the covenant of God are resurected and given the land of Israel to reign with Christ?
 
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Shilohsfoal

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
We're stuck on go here. How do you figure the beast is Israel and not a person?
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This is the kingdom of Israel.

Revelation 20:4-6=Ezekiel 37:12-14


Revelation 20:4-6
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


Ezekiel 37:12:14
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
Ezekiel 37:12:14
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord. [/QUOTE]


That prophesy is about the Jews and God keeping His promise to the Jews.
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When are you saying God kept his promise to bring Israel up out of their graves?



Ezekiel 37:12:14
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb

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Shilohsfoal said:
When are you saying God kept his promise to bring Israel up out of their graves?



Ezekiel 37:12:14
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.
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Yes! The dry bones is God restoring the Jewish people and bringing them back into the Land He promised them.
 
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Shilohsfoal

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Yes! The dry bones is God restoring the Jewish people and bringing them back into the Land He promised them.
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He has to bring them up out of their graves first.

When did you say he opened their graves and brought them up out of their graves?

Ezekiel 37:12:14
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.



You sure are ignoring alot of what the Lord God says.
 
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