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The reason women are prohibited from being leaders of the Church is because Jesus Christ, the Head of the Church, is a male. Wives are subject to their husbands (Male) just as all women in the Church are subject to Jesus Christ (Male)/Leaders in the Church (Male).
Jesus Christ is not a feminist.
Jesus Christ is not a feminist.
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But yet the bible does mot say the serpent was the devil in the garden of eden.
you realise that your saying God allowed the devil to be in the Garden of eden where the tree of life was and the tree off knowledge.
I mean God had to put a flaming sword around it, to prevent man living forever.
So you must be saying God allowed the devil into the garden of eden, surely that's what your saying, or maybe your not now,
Do you really think God would even remotely let the devil get anywhere near the tree of life.
Hello. Buddy.
you realise that your saying God allowed the devil to be in the Garden of eden where the tree of life was and the tree off knowledge.
I mean God had to put a flaming sword around it, to prevent man living forever.
So you must be saying God allowed the devil into the garden of eden, surely that's what your saying, or maybe your not now,
Do you really think God would even remotely let the devil get anywhere near the tree of life.
Hello. Buddy.
This thread is on the verge of heresy.
@Stan_the_Man
Paul wrote it is HIS DESIRE...
That's nowhere close to being from Jesus.
Are you saying Paul's word now equals God's word when it's only Paul's opinion?
@Stan_the_Man
Paul wrote it is HIS DESIRE...
That's nowhere close to being from Jesus.
Are you saying Paul's word now equals God's word when it's only Paul's opinion?
All you did was post scripture that praises man where did anything say women are less than man yes it speaks of the role women have in helping the husband the support they need but nothing about who God chooses that is the vital point who HE chooses you really think his kingdom relies on gener? are you sure you can go before him in his might his righteousness and say to him it is about gender can you stand and not tremble before him and say what you thinbk he says? trust me if you knew him if you understood hismight the true fear of the Lord you would understand you know nothing
By all means go before his throne and make your case see how it doesn't matter feel the beautiful trembling the might and glory od our king how you tremn;e as an ant compared to him yet he raises you je sees a treasure in you even when you are at your lowest I have dealt with such spiritualo warfare it has control over my health I will die accprdong to the er doctors demons show up physically I cannot afford to eat yet look at what I say
I say all this not because I am better but becausxe I got a taste of the real thing his powwer is beyond words you are stunned unable to speak or move and you just smile like a goof Y want you to know him like this let go of what you thought you knew surrender utterly to him just to know the actual truth toss aside doctrine seek the living word Jesus himself
By all means go before his throne and make your case see how it doesn't matter feel the beautiful trembling the might and glory od our king how you tremn;e as an ant compared to him yet he raises you je sees a treasure in you even when you are at your lowest I have dealt with such spiritualo warfare it has control over my health I will die accprdong to the er doctors demons show up physically I cannot afford to eat yet look at what I say
I say all this not because I am better but becausxe I got a taste of the real thing his powwer is beyond words you are stunned unable to speak or move and you just smile like a goof Y want you to know him like this let go of what you thought you knew surrender utterly to him just to know the actual truth toss aside doctrine seek the living word Jesus himself
Adam's job was to tend the garden.
The devil was already cast down to the earth before God ever made Adam so he was already here.
God wanted Adam to have dominion over the earth but he failed and disobeyed God.
Woman having authority to teach or to exercise authority over a man is covered in 1 Timothy 3:1-13, and Titus 1:6-9 so this is not Paul's opinion.
Jesus said the Holy Ghost would lead us in to ALL Truth (John 16:13),
and Jesus said God's Word IS Truth (John 17:17)
Is your claim that the writing of Pail are the words of satan?
You can't have it both ways, either Paul was being led by the Holy Spirit to write what He wrote, or he was being led by demons.
Who do YOU claim was influencing Paul to write what he wrote???
What I posted came from the Throne of God, so the Lord is already in agreement with it because it's HIS Word!
Qualifications for Ministry
1 Timothy 3:1-13
This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desires a good work.
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
One that rules well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.
And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.
Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Bishop - Strongs G1985
a superintendent, i.e. Christian officer in genitive case charge of a (or the) church (literally or figuratively): KJV -- bishop, overseer.
Deacons - Strongs G1249
from an obsolete diako (to run on errands; compare 1377); an attendant, i.e. (genitive case) a waiter (at table or in other menial duties); specially, a Christian teacher and pastor (technically, a deacon): KJV -- deacon, minister, servant.
Titus 1:6-9
If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not self willed, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;
Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
1 Timothy 2:12,13
I do not allow a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
For Adam was first formed, then Eve
You can only make that claim concerning 1 Timothy 2:12,13
You cannot make that claim concerning Titus 1:6-9, or 1 Timothy 3:1-13
Because of Titus 1:6-9, or 1 Timothy 3:1-13 - That's NOT actually Paul's opinion in 1 Timothy 2:12,13 as he is in submission to what the Lord says in Titus 1:6-9, or 1 Timothy 3:1-13 which is why he said what he said in 1 Timothy 2:12,13
Sounds like the only way you will be happy is to throw out everything Paul wrote as well as the other Apostles and only believe the red letters.
Jesus decided to have NO women Apostles and that you cannot explain away
And by the way your comment of @Magenta being racist that is com;etely uncalled ofr and wrong @ magwbta us the most soothing soul that clean water that he speaks of say all you want about me but you better not attack others or you and i will be at war I won't stand by and let you speak ill will of his chosen you messed up attack her now you will fee; my wrath you foolish ignorant self conceted man try to prove me wrong try to use all the scriptures you want but you will lose how dare you say what you did to her when you don't even know her it is was based on your beliefs you have the nerve to attack her as you did yet you only carr about being right
\you have beem given such wisdom by others but you reject it because it is more important that you are right yet most times it is us giving up what we though er knrw butmyou don't have this it is about what you think not what God does if anything people need to pray for you you don' know him you don't carry his heart thid is about you not him you are a hypovtgiyr sn unseare fool because youj are not after his heart you can never know the warmth of his arms because you rely on what you think is truth but since whn we as humans understtod him he is that vast that glorius that far beyond what our minds can comprehyend it osn't about ypu
\you have beem given such wisdom by others but you reject it because it is more important that you are right yet most times it is us giving up what we though er knrw butmyou don't have this it is about what you think not what God does if anything people need to pray for you you don' know him you don't carry his heart thid is about you not him you are a hypovtgiyr sn unseare fool because youj are not after his heart you can never know the warmth of his arms because you rely on what you think is truth but since whn we as humans understtod him he is that vast that glorius that far beyond what our minds can comprehyend it osn't about ypu
They're all written by Paul and they all say the same thing. No reason not to believe it's his desire since NOWHERE in those other verses does it say "GOD SAID." Since it does not say God Said, we know it's only Paul's OPINION.
Nice Try.
Deception is only good to those who are blind!
I know what I see when I look at YOU!
Nice Try.
Deception is only good to those who are blind!
I know what I see when I look at YOU!
I did not call her racist.
Another guy was claiming he was Jewish and said gentiles don't properly understand the Word of God because they are gentiles and that is the guy being the racist thinking he is better than gentiles just because he is jewish
See post #438
Anytime one race says they are better than another race, they are being racist
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and by all meas prove me wrong in fact if you are so sure of what you say lets make a bet if I sm erong a false teacher a fasle prophet then let me be under his wrath let me accept the thunder in fact yet me go to hell this is hoe]w far I will go I want to encourage to strengthin others but just try if I am wrong I am willing to go hell but if you are so sure of yoursel then tsle this bet are tou willing to submit yourself to hell for tje sake of others cam ypu hpnestly say that you see value in even the worst of people
It is love you lack love comperls you to to go that far it instinctive
It is love you lack love comperls you to to go that far it instinctive
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