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Stan_the_Man said:
YOU should READ ALL OF THE VERSES before you cherry pick and end up wrong!
Try using the factual Greek version:
Look at 1 Timothy 2:8 I desire then = this is what PAUL DESIRE'S, not the Holy Spirit or God said!
Paul is showing us His likes and opinions
From verse 8, Paul is showing us in verses 9-15 ARE ONLY HIS OPINION. These are merely Paul's DESIRES.
Big difference between Paul saying, I DESIRE and God said. I do not obey someone's desire who did not DIE for me!
YOU should READ ALL OF THE VERSES before you cherry pick and end up wrong!
Try using the factual Greek version:
Look at 1 Timothy 2:8 I desire then = this is what PAUL DESIRE'S, not the Holy Spirit or God said!
Paul is showing us His likes and opinions
From verse 8, Paul is showing us in verses 9-15 ARE ONLY HIS OPINION. These are merely Paul's DESIRES.
Big difference between Paul saying, I DESIRE and God said. I do not obey someone's desire who did not DIE for me!
I haven't given my understanding of the place of women in the church. I gave my understanding of what scripture consists in. Your insinuation in your question was what you read into my posts.
That being said, the application of the great commission requires all Christians to share the gospel with every living creature. And since no one here has any authority over anyone else, all are equally free to share.
That being said, the application of the great commission requires all Christians to share the gospel with every living creature. And since no one here has any authority over anyone else, all are equally free to share.
Yes Jesus taught thee kingdom but nowhere did he mention gender this is becauxse his kingdom has nothing to do with gender you say he humbled you but you call wise teachings from others as foolish like @Dino well remeeber he uses what is called foolish to humble the so called wise You rely on doctrine you speal of scripture but you fail to understand his character
the veil qas torn the old covanent that relied on men is no more he uses who he chooses he seeks a heart that desires him beyond reason whether man or women we are his children first and he desires the willing heart not something as simple as gender you will never see the trtue kingdom if you are unwilling to toss aside what you thjought you knew
you say he humbled you yet you refuse to consider the wisdom given to you by others you stick with what you think what you believe this is not the traits of a humbled person tell me has he visited you in real life? can you say he has visited you as a real person?
I learned the glorous fear of the Lord because he came pgysically I jave a habit of covering myself in my bed sheets it is my safe place to me nothing can harm me there I didn't see him but when came I felt how powerful the king we serve is I dared not look at him my hoey trembldc but all I could do was smile in tears of affection saying I am,under your feet
Can you say the same? I say again you have to know him first otherwise you are under uder interpretation what you believe but the truth is beyond that it is him only him what he says goes it doesn;t matter what you think or believe you say you rely on the scritpures but your only taking what you believe what you think let it all go say to you him you know nothing clean yourself to be empty only then will you understand him the surrender the utter surrender is beautiful and once you truly surrender to him giving uo what you though what you believe kneeling before him unable to even lift your head and yet your tears dall because of his presence your heart skipd sa beat your body tremble he is that intense
yet all you can do is smile you ador him you tremble at his power anc his life it is that strong you re;y only what you think what you consider to be truth you will never kbow him this way and knowing him is far more important than being correct in your doctrine
the veil qas torn the old covanent that relied on men is no more he uses who he chooses he seeks a heart that desires him beyond reason whether man or women we are his children first and he desires the willing heart not something as simple as gender you will never see the trtue kingdom if you are unwilling to toss aside what you thjought you knew
you say he humbled you yet you refuse to consider the wisdom given to you by others you stick with what you think what you believe this is not the traits of a humbled person tell me has he visited you in real life? can you say he has visited you as a real person?
I learned the glorous fear of the Lord because he came pgysically I jave a habit of covering myself in my bed sheets it is my safe place to me nothing can harm me there I didn't see him but when came I felt how powerful the king we serve is I dared not look at him my hoey trembldc but all I could do was smile in tears of affection saying I am,under your feet
Can you say the same? I say again you have to know him first otherwise you are under uder interpretation what you believe but the truth is beyond that it is him only him what he says goes it doesn;t matter what you think or believe you say you rely on the scritpures but your only taking what you believe what you think let it all go say to you him you know nothing clean yourself to be empty only then will you understand him the surrender the utter surrender is beautiful and once you truly surrender to him giving uo what you though what you believe kneeling before him unable to even lift your head and yet your tears dall because of his presence your heart skipd sa beat your body tremble he is that intense
yet all you can do is smile you ador him you tremble at his power anc his life it is that strong you re;y only what you think what you consider to be truth you will never kbow him this way and knowing him is far more important than being correct in your doctrine
It was a post made in relationship to the topic being discussed.
Hang in there, you'll get it eventually!
Hang in there, you'll get it eventually!
others to respond to anything not specifically on topic. That is what makes you a hypocrite.
The fact that you were not paying attention to the topic at hand is your responsibility, not mine.
Jesus is the One Who provided the content of what the biblical writers wrote in the New Testament.
The scripture I posted very clearly say that men are to be pastors / church leaders.
This is so simple to understand that one has to get help to misunderstand it!
Those that are humble so not stand in opposition to what God says in His Word which is what the devil does as we see in the garden of eden.
That's how we know the devil is involved when we see claims that God did not say what He very clearly said.
No, wrong again.
I replied to a post that was directly related to the topic being discussed.
And if I did get in to a topic other than what a thread is about, it's my responsibility to make sure others know what topics I'm talking about which is covered by quoting the person I'm replying to so others can see what I'm replying to.
It was a post made in relationship to the topic being discussed.
Hang in there, you'll get it eventually!
Hang in there, you'll get it eventually!
Again you don't know him znd if you don't don't get it together soon you will miss out on his glorious plan involving us and his kingdom because he is planning somethin and this isn't a bus you want to miss but you are so stuck in what you yourself believe your doctrine you stand by ypi reject the wisdom of others because it opposes what you believe it has nothing to do with God it is only your understanding your truth
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