Women Pastors

[Stan_the_Man]

I‘ll stick with scripture concerning the Lord and his Church.

Exactly man, good for you!

5 WAYS THE BIBLE SUPPORTS WOMEN PREACHING

There are ZERO ways God's Word provides for women to be pastors, deacons or church leaders.

Of course women can assist in the ministry in a supporting role, but they cannot the pastor or church leader according to the New Testament.

So you never consider cultural context? That’s foolish.

What's foolish is going beyond what is written in God's Word for doctrine which is how folks become deceived by the devil.

You're displaying chauvinism and arrogance, not mature Christian character.

Folks who foolishly look outside of God's Word for doctrine wouldn't know one way or the other.

... or be ignorant of the key terms in the original languages, which you clearly are.

More foolish stuff from outside of God's Word, I'll pass as will those that accept God's Word above the wisdom of men.

The scriptures speak for themselves.

it would be a shame to reject a prophet annointed and chosen by God based on trying to observe eves curse for sin when the wife was made subject to her husband after that’s been remitted and redeemed

There are ZERO ways God's Word provides for women to be pastors, deacons or church leaders.

It was a failed attempt on your part you cannot just pick certain scriptures that you think fit your narriative especially when you poorly do so as you have you cannot force a puzzle piece to fit the entire picture

There are ZERO ways God's Word provides for women to be pastors, deacons or church leaders.

so by all means keep going it will be all the more effective when he humbles you

He did humble me and taught me to go by what His Word says, not by the darkened wisdom of man which says women can be in authority over men in the church when God's Word clearly says they cannot.

The scripture is so easy to understand on this one has to get help to misunderstand it which of course the enemy is happy to assist with

you also have to understand that Jesus walked talked and taught in the old covanent

That's not what Jesus said!

Luke 16:16
The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

Jesus taught the Gospel of the Kingdom

We believers all carry feminine identity

True Christian men are NOT cross dressers or transgender

 

[Stan_the_Man]

Personally, I think Paul was trying to protect women. He knew from experience they’d be beat up by men if they taught the Gospel. Paul, as I understand it, did this kind of thing before his conversion. I actually heard a pastor say this many years ago. I wonder what men have against women.

Or, Paul was being led by the Holy Spirit and wrote what the Lord wanted to be written!

Rather than speculating we could always believe that.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Being capable of preaching, doesn't justify allowing women to preach in any way. The Bible is very clear, that it's unacceptable. God must have a good reason for not allowing women to preach in the Church.

Just a quick question


But is the word pastor actually in the bible.

Is it not ministers,

And I was just wondering can a care worker, a brother or a sister minister and minister Gods word.


And is the church now not Gods people rather than a building.


So I'm asking could my wife minister to me if I was lacking, and would that not be classed as ministering to the church seeing as I am his church also.

 

[Dino246]

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Or, Paul was being led by the Holy Spirit and wrote what the Lord wanted to be written!

Rather than speculating we could always believe that.

Right… and believe that the Lord was contradicting Himself when He inspired Galatians 3:28. That’s a better solution for sure.

 

[posthuman]

True Christian men are NOT cross dressers or transgender

He is my Husband

 

[Magenta]

Right… and believe that the Lord was contradicting Himself when He inspired Galatians 3:28. That’s a better solution for sure.

What Stan fails to acknowledge in his preference for ignorance over knowledge is that ezer kenegdo is Holy Spirit inspired Scripture.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

What Stan fails to acknowledge in his preference for ignorance over knowledge is that ezer kenegdo is Holy Spirit inspired Scripture.

I would say the fact that Adam did not protect Eve from the serpent and then threw her under the bus when God showed up that he did not deserve her help.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

He is my Husband

Sorry couldn't resist but would that be your bonified husband 😋

 

[Dino246]

Sorry couldn't resist but would that be your bonified husband 😋

It's "bona fide", and it's Latin, not English.

 

[Stan_the_Man]

Right… and believe that the Lord was contradicting Himself when He inspired Galatians 3:28. That’s a better solution for sure.

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Some people think one become genderless when they get saved and now men can marry men, and women can marry women. The perverts use this scripture to support their sexual perversions too!

There's all kinds of scriptures throughout the NT that indicates there are differences between men and women so some twist Galatians 3:28 to claim women can be in authority over men and then turn around and claim men cannot marry men and women cannot marry women.

This just shows they twist scripture at their own convenience to accommodate their own preconceived ideas that are based on the wisdom of man instead of the wisdom of God.

People like this should be ignored when it comes to sound doctrine seeing they don't have any.

He is my Husband

If one was born a man this does not mean they are supposed to act feminine or wear women's clothing

The Body of Christ is called the bride of Christ but that is no license to get your transgender on ya know.

What Stan fails to acknowledge in his preference for ignorance over knowledge is that ezer kenegdo is Holy Spirit inspired Scripture.

It was the Lord that had the Holy Spirit tell us in God's Word that church leaders are to be husbands of one wife.

This cannot be explained away without one treating God's Word like a cafeteria buffet line.

Some apparently cannot read, either that or they reject the plain reading of God's wisdom in His Word and instead cling to the wisdom of man which contributes to their mind becoming darkened.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

It's "bona fide", and it's Latin, not English.

That was very boney fide of you to say so 😋

 

[Magenta]

Some apparently cannot read, either that or they reject the plain reading of God's wisdom in His Word
and instead cling to the wisdom of man which contributes to their mind becoming darkened.

That's what we've been telling you. Ezer kenegdo. Look it up.

 

[Charlie_2024]

remember that it was the old covenant thinking of the disciples trying to keep people from bringing children to Jesus, not the mindset of the apostles later, after His resurrection.

You forgot to specify that the old covenant's thinking problem was PRIDE!!!! and that's what Jesus pulled them up on them.

 

[Charlie_2024]

still think you should read Job 32-37 again.

when you do, i am interested to know, do you find all of it the worthless, ignorant speech of a child with no capability for understanding?

I was comparing his speech to what we now know under the new covenant, so again I say your argument is not Biblically valid

 

[Charlie_2024]

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 and many other places indicate that God believes a child worth rebuking when they are wrong.

Elihu isn't rebuked, and that is significant

the position that holds no one responds to him because he's just a kid so they ignore him doesn't hold any water, imo - God devotes 6 chapters to him, in a very prestigious place, just before God Himself speaks - and if these elders in the city gates really believed Elihu should not speak they would have shut him up.

instead they have no answer to him, and the very fact they don't drive him away for speaking in their presence when he is young indicates their conviction at his words.

You're still sidestepping the the problem, that none of that applies to us under the new covalent. You've been trying to use scriptures which have nothing to do with the subject matter. I have no idea why you can't understand simple English

 

[Charlie_2024]

Really? So they can't be saved? Wow.

Your concept of "Bible based Church" has nothing to do with the Church founded by Jesus Christ.

If you believe that a false Church can save people, then that's your opinion and your entitled to have your opinion. I personally believe a Church must be a Biblical Church, for it to be valid, I know everyone has their private opinions about this but I'll stick with the Biblical model

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

If you believe that a false Church can save people, then that's your opinion and your entitled to have your opinion. I personally believe a Church must be a Biblical Church, for it to be valid, I know everyone has their private opinions about this but I'll stick with the Biblical model

A church doesn't save anyone, false or otherwise.

 

[Charlie_2024]

Next time, read the context before asserting its subject.

Matthew 18:2-6 He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me. “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble...

He still rejected the child's application for Church membership. and He was warning Church Ministers not to cause one of these little ones - those who believe in Me - to stumble. He warned that it would be better if they put a millstone around his neck and jump into the sea.
None of that qualifies any child to become a Church member, all of it is aimed at false preachers who cause new or little - ones to sin. You need to ask yourself, what causes little ones to sin. The obvious answer is, false teaching. If a pastor teaches that it's OK to kill someone, just because you don't like the color of their skin. Then the child kills someone for that reason, who's fault is it?

That's the lesson Jesus was teaching, so don't try to twist those scriptures to justify the non Biblical doctrine of Church membership of children

 

[Charlie_2024]

Eyeroll to that . Luke 1 :15 says that John The Baptist was filled with the Holy Spirit before he was born, though I doubt you'd consider him part of the "Church" either.


As far as post-Pentecost, Acts 16 does not list the ages of the jailer's family, but it's very unlikely that no children were involved:

32Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. 33And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their stripes. And immediately he and all his family were baptized. 34Now when he had brought them into his house, he set food before them; and he rejoiced, having believed in God with all his household.


I think you should be very careful before saying who is and isn't "mature" enough to come to Jesus. We are all works in progress and Jesus is the one who does the work. We just have to yield to what HE is doing. But I'm glad your church at least allows children to attend......and I'm glad yall don't allow infant baptisms.

I'm still waiting for somebody to present a single shred of evidence that God allows Children to join the Church.

There's no point in quoting unrelated verses to try and float a false notion which is dead in the water. All I ask for is a single shred of evidence to support this unbiblical belief and nobody has been able to step up to the plate.

I didn't see any mention of children in ACTS 16:33 we can't just assume that some family members were immature juveniles. If the text doesn't specify it, we have no right to superimpose our preconceived conclusion to it.

 

[Charlie_2024]

A church doesn't save anyone, false or otherwise.

I didn't claim it does and it's quite immature to suggest that I did. I was responding to someone else who's wording suggested something to that effect