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Thunderrr-mental

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Obedience said:
The Bible says the father, son and Holy spirit created the world. So our image here is the father, son and Holy spirit which is meaning the God.
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The bible teaches many things, but it does not teach to add to scripture, you said God, said he made us in his own image.

It doesn't,.it says let us make man in our image, then you where created from the dust.

Was God created from the dust
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
The bible teaches many things, but it does not teach to add to scripture, you said God, said he made us in his own image.

It doesn't,.it says let us make man in our image, then you where created from the dust.

Was God created from the dust
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It does, Jesus is the image of God, and Paul told us that we should be more as Jesus Christ.
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
The bible teaches many things, but it does not teach to add to scripture, you said God, said he made us in his own image.

It doesn't,.it says let us make man in our image, then you where created from the dust.

Was God created from the dust
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It does, Jesus is the image of God, and Paul told us that we should be more as Jesus Christ.

There is not a word in the Bible that is useless.They are always consistent,No matter how far apart the chapters are,from the Genesis to Revelation.Just like what Jesus said.I'm not here to abolish it.But to fulfill it.
 
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Obedience said:
It does, Jesus is the image of God, and Paul told us that we should be more as Jesus Christ.
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The bottom line is was God created from the dust.

You understand if God came to be from the dust then only then would we be asimilar image to God and have any likeness to God
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
The bible teaches many things, but it does not teach to add to scripture, you said God, said he made us in his own image.

It doesn't,.it says let us make man in our image, then you where created from the dust.

Was God created from the dust
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So who do you think was speaking when they said "our image"?
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
Well it's so easy to believe something that fits, but the truth is scripture does not say Satan was the serpent in the garden

So your whole premise is based on an idea based on different scripture.

The bible tells children of God to be as wise as serpents, on that note is God telling you to be as wise as satan.

Oh and then theres two scriptures that suggest satan fell after fall, I bet you know which scriptures they are.
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The Bible does not use the Word Trinity either.

The Bible does not use the word "rapture"....

The Bible actually does not have chapters and verses.


Now go back to sleep....
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
don't know it doesn't say. I wouldn't like to speculate.
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You sure do like to speculate.... And, always finding dead end streets to lead others down as you do.

Thunder Mental.... I would hate to be in your sneakers when the Lord evaluates your walk.
Even though you can always repent before that happens.
But, that means He is going to make you hurt before you do....

Great choice.
 
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Genez said:
The Bible does not use the Word Trinity either.

The Bible does not use the word "rapture"....

The Bible actually does not have chapters and verses.


Now go back to sleep....
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Where not talking about the trinity.

We where taking about a word that is used in the bible.

The bible says be as wise as serpents , Mathew 10.16.

Is God telling you to be as wise as Satan.

Can you answer a straight forward question without diverting or not.
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
Oh and then theres two scriptures that suggest satan fell after fall, I bet you know which scriptures they are.
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Ohhhh. You got me TM! Darn! Heck!

Can't win with you!

You are just too doggone smart for me....

Smart at acting stupid is an offensive move........
 
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Genez said:
Ohhhh. You got me TM! Darn! Heck!

Can't win with you!

You are just too doggone smart for me....

Smart at acting stupid is an offensive move........
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Can yo answer a simple question.

Was Jesus telling you to be as wise as Satan in Mathew 10:16.

And it not that I'm smart, it that you are not clever at times. 😊
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
don't know it doesn't say. I wouldn't like to speculate.
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But it does say whose speaking ...

Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

How many Gods do you think there are?
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
Can yo answer a simple question.

Was Jesus telling you to be as wise as Satan in Mathew 10:16.

And it not that I'm smart, it that you are not clever at times. 😊
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Could well have been actually because if there is one thing Satan does well is to know his enemy. Jesus knew His enemy well which is why He could shut them up so quick with a single rebuttal.
 
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sawdust said:
Could well have been actually because if there is one thing Satan does well is to know his enemy. Jesus knew His enemy well which is why He could shut them up so quick with a single rebuttal.
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shocking.

What lengths will you not go to, to prove yourself right.

Satan is wise, what a joke that is.

 
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sawdust said:
Could well have been actually because if there is one thing Satan does well is to know his enemy. Jesus knew His enemy well which is why He could shut them up so quick with a single rebuttal.
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They would shut up in front of him, but would keep mumbling to themselves as he walked away.

Evil is not dumb. Evil is stupid. There is a difference
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
Can yo answer a simple question.

Was Jesus telling you to be as wise as Satan in Mathew 10:16.

And it not that I'm smart, it that you are not clever at times. 😊
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Before you can counter a lie. one must first discern the lie.
To discern the lie, you need to be was wise/"clever" as the one lying.

That is how we are to be wise as Thunderr-mental, but harmless as a dove.
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
shocking.

What lengths will you not go to, to prove yourself right.

Satan is wise, what a joke that is.

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Talk about swinging on the vine to and fro. First you point out Jesus said to be as wise as a serpent which, has always been connected to evil and now you throw your hands in the air when it is shown there is a certain wisdom in evil, used for all the wrong reasons of course which, is why Jesus added to be as harmless as a dove.

What lengths will you go to to ignore the plain meaning of God's word?
 
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