Predestination is misunderstood...
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Actually the Hebrew says 3:22 Then Yahweh said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us knowing good and evil; and now, lest he keep on putting forth his hand (Qal imperfect 3ms) and keep on taking (waqetal sequential perfect) and keep on eating (waqetal sequential perfect) from it and keep on living (waqetal sequential perfect) indefinitely.
Eating from it once does not make one permanently immortal. Continually eating from it keeps you immortal. Rev. 22:1-2, 19
Eating from it once does not make one permanently immortal. Continually eating from it keeps you immortal. Rev. 22:1-2, 19
This is the question I meant my reply to.
What can dead men do?
Clarifying spiritually dead men yet still alive in their physical bodies, like Abraham, whose body was, "as good as dead" believed God. And Abraham's faith is attributed in Hebrews 11:18 as, "Abraham reasoned that God could raise the dead..." and reason is a 'natural' ability inherent in all mankind.
The spiritual dead know nothing (as it is written of the dead) and so faith is all they can go on, since physical evidence isn't sufficient to convince us, i.e. Abraham's old body, Sarah's dead womb was insufficient evidence of any children coming. They only had the word of God to go on, and that had to be taken by faith. Sarah laughed, but I don't believe in any sort of mocking way, like 'ha! as if!,' but in a nervous hesitancy to express her joy completely.
That is all men can do, but when our spirit is reborn, "the Spirit himself testifies with our spirit...(Romans 8:16)" and so our hope is 'realized' that 'we are God's children' and we inherit the kingdom of God.
What can dead men do?
Clarifying spiritually dead men yet still alive in their physical bodies, like Abraham, whose body was, "as good as dead" believed God. And Abraham's faith is attributed in Hebrews 11:18 as, "Abraham reasoned that God could raise the dead..." and reason is a 'natural' ability inherent in all mankind.
The spiritual dead know nothing (as it is written of the dead) and so faith is all they can go on, since physical evidence isn't sufficient to convince us, i.e. Abraham's old body, Sarah's dead womb was insufficient evidence of any children coming. They only had the word of God to go on, and that had to be taken by faith. Sarah laughed, but I don't believe in any sort of mocking way, like 'ha! as if!,' but in a nervous hesitancy to express her joy completely.
That is all men can do, but when our spirit is reborn, "the Spirit himself testifies with our spirit...(Romans 8:16)" and so our hope is 'realized' that 'we are God's children' and we inherit the kingdom of God.
I could suggest that we are dead in our sins in the sense that we are condemned to a future second death because of the sins we are still considered responsible for ... like the gangster saying "You're a dead man."
Or, we are alienated from God because of our sins, like the prodigal son was dead until he contritely returned to the father.
He quickens us by forgiving us our sins and giving us a new pure spirit into which He comes and abides within us continuously.
Or, we are alienated from God because of our sins, like the prodigal son was dead until he contritely returned to the father.
He quickens us by forgiving us our sins and giving us a new pure spirit into which He comes and abides within us continuously.
The Scripture does not say "let alone choose it". Don't add to the word of God.
What, indeed?
"Dead" men can observe, learn, think, choose, examine, ponder, speculate, consider, and even imagine. "Dead" men can choose which woman to marry, which career to follow, which car to drive, and which team to support. "Dead" men can choose wisdom or folly, peace or strife, health or illness, life or death.
Oh... and they can reproduce after their kind too.
What, indeed?
"Dead" men can observe, learn, think, choose, examine, ponder, speculate, consider, and even imagine. "Dead" men can choose which woman to marry, which career to follow, which car to drive, and which team to support. "Dead" men can choose wisdom or folly, peace or strife, health or illness, life or death.
Oh... and they can reproduce after their kind too.
We are born physically alive and spiritually dead.
Being spiritually dead to God = dead.
The spiritually dead can bury their own dead. Jesus said so.
Deeply held wrong conviction acts like grease on the brain when trying to get a grip on the truth.
That grease needs to be washed off with the water of the Word being accepted..
grace and peace .............
Being spiritually dead to God = dead.
The spiritually dead can bury their own dead. Jesus said so.
He said to another man, “Follow me.”
But he replied, “Lord, first let me go and bury my father.”
Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead,
But he replied, “Lord, first let me go and bury my father.”
Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead,
but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God.” Luke 9:59-60
Deeply held wrong conviction acts like grease on the brain when trying to get a grip on the truth.
That grease needs to be washed off with the water of the Word being accepted..
grace and peace .............