What if you die before water baptism?

[jamessb]

No problem. Lots of folks are cherry pickers these days and it doesn't effect me one way or the other.

Water baptism is being obedient just like living by faith. The wrath of God comes upon the children of disobedient so feel free to tell everyone you know to NOT get baptized and we'll see how this disobedience thing works out.

Be sure and take your big black marker and remove these verses from your bible:

Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:37.38
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

1 Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Colossians 2:11-13
In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Romans 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Everyone is a "cherry-picker" except you, correct? Can you spell "Pharisee"?

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

Myself and the Lord.

Since you accuse others of being in league with demons, we don't have such high hopes for you

Unless you repent, that would bring up the hopes for you bro man

I just asked a question and thought I should ask for clarification since you are attacking the Saved.

 

[jamessb]

Yeah, had I attended seminary I'd be teaching the false doctrines of reformed theology leading many astray! View attachment 261390

Ignorance is bliss!

 

[Stan_the_Man]

Everyone is a "cherry-picker" except you, correct? Can you spell "Pharisee"?

It doesn't effect me what you believe or don't believe.

I just asked a question and thought I should ask for clarification since you are attacking the Saved.

I'm not attacking anybody.

Those with an inferiority complex would of course think that since they think every body is out to get them!

Ignorance is bliss!

That's odd that this would be your mantra!

Did you make a bumper sticker with this on it for your jalopy?

 

[CS1]

WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU??? Baptism is a rite by which the old person symbolically dies and the new person is symbolically reborn in Christ. IT IS COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY. So why do you write mean-spirited judgment on other Christians???

ACTUALLY, water baptism is not voluntary. Jesus was baptized. We are told to be baptized. Is the servant greater than his Lord? The idea of a person getting saved and not having time to be baptized does happen, yet it is somewhat of an urban legend. Like those who say abortion in the case of rape, a vast amount of them are done just for convenience.

The vast amount of people who are saved or claim to be really have no excuse not to be baptized in water.

 

[CS1]

You don't know what I accept and what I don't. All you have is your (false) opinion. Too bad you didn't attend seminary!

maybe a misunderstanding

 

[Stan_the_Man]

ACTUALLY, water baptism is not voluntary. Jesus was baptized. We are told to be baptized. Is the servant greater than his Lord? The idea of a person getting saved and not having time to be baptized does happen, yet it is somewhat of an urban legend. Like those who say abortion in the case of rape, a vast amount of them are done just for convenience.

The vast amount of people who are saved or claim to be really have no excuse not to be baptized in water.

Exactly!

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

I'm not attacking anybody.

Those with an inferiority complex would of course think that since they think every body is out to get them!

You mean those who have first hand experience of having their own posts twisted by you would think?

 

[Stan_the_Man]

You mean those who have first hand experience of having their own posts twisted by you would think?

People post stuff and I quote it by copying and pasting exactly what they said.

That's not twisting anything because they said what they said.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

People post stuff and I quote it by copying and pasting exactly what they said.

That's not twisting anything because they said what they said.

In some you have even added more words than the original post reads.
You must be proud of such deception since you continue.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Too bad you don't accept the whole counsel of God.

Now you’re just blabbing. So i will stop feeding the troll

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

ACTUALLY, water baptism is not voluntary. Jesus was baptized. We are told to be baptized. Is the servant greater than his Lord? The idea of a person getting saved and not having time to be baptized does happen, yet it is somewhat of an urban legend. Like those who say abortion in the case of rape, a vast amount of them are done just for convenience.

The vast amount of people who are saved or claim to be really have no excuse not to be baptized in water.

My deceased sister in law was never baptised. Because of her health (She had a shunt in her brain to drain the fluid to keep the pressure down)

Is she in heaven today?

 

[Stan_the_Man]

Now you’re just blabbing. So i will stop feeding the troll

So you're going to do some fasting as to stop feeding your inner troll?

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

A pure pharisee at heart we see here.

He can;t stand when the truth is told.

 

[jamessb]

It doesn't effect me what you believe or don't believe.







I'm not attacking anybody.

Those with an inferiority complex would of course think that since they think every body is out to get them!







That's odd that this would be your mantra!

Did you make a bumper sticker with this on it for your jalopy?

Obviously you are not being truthful. Gee, what a surprise!
Now you're on "ignore". You are exactly like the Pharisee in Luke 18. (That's the "book" between Mark's Gospel and Luke's Gospel).
BTW, ignorance is not bliss.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Okay, you're on "ignore". You are exactly like the Pharisee in Luke 18. (That's the "book" between Mark's Gospel and Luke's Gospel).
BTW, ignorance is not bliss.

Amen,,

Get the troll spray out

 

[Stan_the_Man]

Obviously you are not being truthful.

I posted exactly what you posted so you got caught with your britches down!

Now you're on "ignore".

Thank you Jesus... the Lord still answers prayer!

Does this mean you gonna shut up now?

Get the troll spray out

That's what you wear when you go trolling down at the troll bar!

 

[CS1]

My deceased sister in law was never baptised. Because of her health (She had a shunt in her brain to drain the fluid to keep the pressure down)

Is she in heaven today?

I want to be clear. Those who come to the saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ and die before they are water-baptized are with the Lord.

That is a totally different thing than a person who says they are saved and will not get baptized because they say it is not needed.

Jesus was water-baptized; all Disciples were Jesus' mother; everyone in the Book of Acts and the Christians were all water-baptized.

Some did not know but heard of Jesus and were not taught, but when they were, they obeyed and were waterbaptized. It's very simple.

 

[jamessb]

I want to be clear. Those who come to the saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ and die before they are water-baptized are with the Lord.

That is a totally different thing than a person who says they are saved and will not get baptized because they say it is not needed.

Jesus was water-baptized; all Disciples were Jesus' mother; everyone in the Book of Acts and the Christians were all water-baptized.

Some did not know but heard of Jesus and were not taught, but when they were, they obeyed and were waterbaptized. It's very simple.

It is not needed. It is a statement of the fact that the old person has died and the new one has arisen, mimicking Christ. It is legalism to say it is required.

 

[CS1]

It is not needed. It is a statement of the fact that the old person has died and the new one has arisen, mimicking Christ. It is legalism to say it is required.

Listen. There is no statement of the fact IF you don't get water baptized. You need to read Roman chapter 6:1-10 in context.



I will quote it for you :

1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?
2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?
3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?

4Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin.


DO YOU NOT KNOW! This is a qestion for the Believer. as many of you " WERE Baptized" (FYI, Past tense.) INTO someone who? Christ Jesus, YOU were ( past tense) Baptized into HIS Death.


THEREFORE! What is the therefore Therefore?


Consider yourself buried with Christ through water baptism. If you don't get water baptized, how can you be a participant in Jesus's Crucifix? Are you going to hammer some nails into your hands and feet?

We do that in water baptism.