2 Years Are Left, and the Two Witnesses Are About to Emerge to the World Anytime Now

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Old covenant Israel was effectively terminated in AD 70.

The modern nation of Israel is mostly a secular nation.

The Mosaic law is not the national law of Israel.

Israel has a democratic government.

First century Israel and twenty first century Israel are chalk and cheese.
First century judea and current Israel are both evil.The deadly wound has been healed
 
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According to Matthew's gospel people did rise from the dead.

Matthew 27:51-53
And behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split. Also the tombs were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the tombs after His resurrection, they entered the holy city and appeared to many.
Mathew 27:51-53 was not fulfilled in 70 ad.Try again.
 
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According to Matthew's gospel people did rise from the dead.

Matthew 27:51-53
And behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split. Also the tombs were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the tombs after His resurrection, they entered the holy city and appeared to many.
Let me repeat myself .

Mathew 24 corresponds to the events of Christs coming as described in revelation ,Daniel , Zechariah.

And no,Christ did not come and raise the dead in 70 ad nor did he come and reign in 70 ad.



The verses you posted took place decades before 70 ad.
 

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My question during all of these "prophetic" discussions is always..... how is your "prophetic revelation" going to affect the way you live today? Should it?

Seriously, many of you need to get a hobby, or something....

Guess what? We KNOW how it ends.... we WIN, because of what Jesus accomplished on the cross.

And guess what else? The end of days could come for ANY of us TODAY.... we should live our lives every day as if the end truly is tomorrow.... quit trying to second guess God.... and outsmart Jesus, who said that even HE didn't know the time of the end....
 
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My question during all of these "prophetic" discussions is always..... how is your "prophetic revelation" going to affect the way you live today? Should it?

Seriously, many of you need to get a hobby, or something....

Guess what? We KNOW how it ends.... we WIN, because of what Jesus accomplished on the cross.

And guess what else? The end of days could come for ANY of us TODAY.... we should live our lives every day as if the end truly is tomorrow.... quit trying to second guess God.... and outsmart Jesus, who said that even HE didn't know the time of the end....

I hear a lot of people saying you can't know the time of the end but that is why Jesus said to watch.If you don't watch,of coarse your not going to know when the end is and you will be like them who were not watching before the flood.

But I've learned you can know the date of a certain event if you are paying attention 1290 days in advance.There is a reason God had the prophet Daniel write those numbers.

As of today.Im getting ready to go to work .
 

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I asked were there any witnesses who said these events took place?You say they took place so who witnessed these things happening in 70 ad?





Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
And I said it's figurative language largely for judgment. And we know that judgment was executed upon Israel in the first century.
 

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A brief outline of revelation is the events surrounding the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Would you be surprised to learn it is actually about the end of a covenant, the execution of the stipulations of that failed covenant, and a new covenant being installed?
 
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And I said it's figurative language largely for judgment. And we know that judgment was executed upon Israel in the first century.
That's means there were no eye witnesses that anything written in revelation took place.
As I expected
 
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Would you be surprised to learn it is actually about the end of a covenant, the execution of the stipulations of that failed covenant, and a new covenant being installed?

Like I said
It's about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Revelation 1:7
Look, he is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him"; and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.” So shall it be! Amen.



When exactly did you say every eye saw him and all peoples mourned because of him?
 

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Like I said
It's about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Revelation 1:7
Look, he is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him"; and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.” So shall it be! Amen.



When exactly did you say every eye saw him and all peoples mourned because of him?
First, who were those who pierced Him?
 

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I hear a lot of people saying you can't know the time of the end but that is why Jesus said to watch.If you don't watch,of coarse your not going to know when the end is and you will be like them who were not watching before the flood.
To "watch" does not mean to spend all your time trying to second-guess God's timing. To watch means to constantly be in a state of readiness. Like the bridesmaids. They had no control over, or concern over when the bridegroom was coming. They simply kept their lamps (lives) in a constant state of readiness.

Live your life, ready to be called home at any second, and don't worry about dates/happenings/markers.... just stay ready.
 
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There were lots of witnesses to what happened in 70AD.
And none of the things I posted from.revrlatoon 6 happened.

All the witnesses never witnessed the heavens departing from.the earth like a scroll being rolled together.

There are witnesses today who have witnessed such a thing but not in 70 ad.
 
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To "watch" does not mean to spend all your time trying to second-guess God's timing. To watch means to constantly be in a state of readiness. Like the bridesmaids. They had no control over, or concern over when the bridegroom was coming. They simply kept their lamps (lives) in a constant state of readiness.

Live your life, ready to be called home at any second, and don't worry about dates/happenings/markers.... just stay ready.
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Well,I've been watching prophecies being fulfilled one after another .I've also been learning about the prophecies that have been fulfilled in my lifetime before I received the holy Ghost.I actually have had a good time learning from the holy Ghost and the things that's been revealed to me.Im also interested in the prophecies that appear to be on the horizon.Its been quite an experience.

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You really shouldn't tell other people how to live their lives.Some are called to do things you may not be called to do.
 

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And none of the things I posted from.revrlatoon 6 happened.

All the witnesses never witnessed the heavens departing from.the earth like a scroll being rolled together.

There are witnesses today who have witnessed such a thing but not in 70 ad.
They did witness the judgment in 70AD. What you shared was symbolic language.

Who were those who pierced Him? To whom is that referring?
 
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First, who were those who pierced Him?
Literally.A Roman soldier.
Longinus is supposedly his name

Mark 15:39
And when the centurion, who stood there in front of Jesus, saw how he died, he said, “Surely this man was the Son of God!”


So them who pierced him is probably speaking of something else.
 
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They did witness the judgment in 70AD. What you shared was symbolic language.

Who were those who pierced Him? To whom is that referring?
There's nothing symbolic about an earthquake and the heavens departing from the earth like a scroll being rolled together.

That is an actual event which has taken place before but not in ,70.ad.
 

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You really shouldn't tell other people how to live their lives.Some are called to do things you may not be called to do.
I believe outside of what we learn through studying the Bible, we're also called to be a witness to what God has allowed us to see.

I think most of us have been able to see enough prophecy fulfilled and understand only so many unfulfilled prophecies are left that we should be shouting to the Lost and warning them. I believe we're all accountable for what God reveals to us and we're supposed to share it to the Lost.

Let's say the Tribulation begins in October.
It's March.
And we've seen prophecies fulfilled, signs of the times, and we keep seeing more things that confirm time is shorter and shorter.
But all we do is keep seeing these things and never sharing them to the Lost world.
October comes and things change.
And these sinners who could have been warned are now being more deceived than ever before.
God will hold us accountable.
 
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I believe outside of what we learn through studying the Bible, we're also called to be a witness to what God has allowed us to see.

I think most of us have been able to see enough prophecy fulfilled and understand only so many unfulfilled prophecies are left that we should be shouting to the Lost and warning them. I believe we're all accountable for what God reveals to us and we're supposed to share it to the Lost.

Let's say the Tribulation begins in October.
It's March.
And we've seen prophecies fulfilled, signs of the times, and we keep seeing more things that confirm time is shorter and shorter.
But all we do is keep seeing these things and never sharing them to the Lost world.
October comes and things change.
And these sinners who could have been warned are now being more deceived than ever before.
God will hold us accountable.
And you see what other people are saying on this board.I even mention Donald Trumps name and suddenly they believe it's a political post.
They say they heard the same thing about Obama.
All I've been saying is they should be watching as Jesus said to.Then someone says it's doesn't mean to watch.It means to be ready.Theres the problem.
 

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And you see what other people are saying on this board.I even mention Donald Trumps name and suddenly they believe it's a political post.
They say they heard the same thing about Obama.
All I've been saying is they should be watching as Jesus said to.Then someone says it's doesn't mean to watch.It means to be ready.Theres the problem.
Who cares what they think. It's your responsibility if God keeps showing you things to share them to the Lost.

The worst people to share God's Truth with is to other saved people. They're stuck in doctrine, looking for specific words, pious in a religious way, stuck in tradition. Take it to the people who God can connect with, the Lost. Too many believers think they have arrived already.