Predestination is misunderstood...
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Sir you have already told me to have a nice day.😊
No need to keep saying it. 😊
I can see where in disagreement but that's ok, I'm Not going to disrespect the God that you serve.
I do my best to always appreciate people are serving the correct God as me.
But listen sir,
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
First sentence
God said let us make man in our image.
Sir which part of this says let us make man in the same image as us.
And what is an image sir, in this case it's a picture sir.
Second sentence,.should then read and let us make them after our likeness to that picture.
This is what is going on with you.
You have a belief that is buried into your conscience, that is set in something you understood, in one direction.
This is what the conscience does sir.
It remembers something it understood more easily.
Sir God would not have referred to you as dust, if you had resemblance to God
No need to keep saying it. 😊
I can see where in disagreement but that's ok, I'm Not going to disrespect the God that you serve.
I do my best to always appreciate people are serving the correct God as me.
But listen sir,
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
First sentence
God said let us make man in our image.
Sir which part of this says let us make man in the same image as us.
And what is an image sir, in this case it's a picture sir.
Second sentence,.should then read and let us make them after our likeness to that picture.
This is what is going on with you.
You have a belief that is buried into your conscience, that is set in something you understood, in one direction.
This is what the conscience does sir.
It remembers something it understood more easily.
Sir God would not have referred to you as dust, if you had resemblance to God
Maybe some people think it was fair that Jesus died for their sins so they could be reconciled to God by grace (unmerited favor) .
I don't treat all my children equally. To do so could possibly bring harm. But I do try to deal with them all justly.
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Let's discuss the word discussion, with the thought in mind we should both come to understand God, in the hope we can come to an agreement
So where talking about predestination and will.
Should we not be talking about God's will, before we can understand, How God determines anything, before we try to understand are own will.
Let us also understand man is under a curse, which is Gods will for man after we sought to have are own will,
This obviously declared that God does not like his will to be messed with.
It then should be obvious, that man before the fall had a will that had more freedom than it does now, before man was placed under a curse.
They where walking free in the garden.
They where free to choose,.
All of which was cut of.
Do ye understand this.
So where talking about predestination and will.
Should we not be talking about God's will, before we can understand, How God determines anything, before we try to understand are own will.
Let us also understand man is under a curse, which is Gods will for man after we sought to have are own will,
This obviously declared that God does not like his will to be messed with.
It then should be obvious, that man before the fall had a will that had more freedom than it does now, before man was placed under a curse.
They where walking free in the garden.
They where free to choose,.
All of which was cut of.
Do ye understand this.
When you try to understand your soul, it's also like trying to understand freewill.
On both cases you will make assumptions.
What we need is to discuss realistic reasoning on what we can clearly understand.
God formed man out of the dust and became a living soul from the dust.
This would also make the inner you a soul.
Well I can tell you the soul that sins is the soul that dies.
When Adam sinned he died.
Which means his soul also sinned.
Was it just his flesh that sinned sir.
So i don't want to make assumptions
Look
Genesis 2:7-9 King James Version (KJV)And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Man became a living soul from the dust not from the elements of heaven sir
If anything sir it would be your conscience that goes to hell.
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On both cases you will make assumptions.
What we need is to discuss realistic reasoning on what we can clearly understand.
God formed man out of the dust and became a living soul from the dust.
This would also make the inner you a soul.
Well I can tell you the soul that sins is the soul that dies.
When Adam sinned he died.
Which means his soul also sinned.
Was it just his flesh that sinned sir.
So i don't want to make assumptions
Look
Genesis 2:7-9 King James Version (KJV)And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Man became a living soul from the dust not from the elements of heaven sir
If anything sir it would be your conscience that goes to hell.
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Why not analyse the texts in context and show how they prove your point rather than mine. Why do so many people fear reading texts in context and sticking to what they actually say rather than reading into them what their preferred systematic theologian told them they should interpret the text as meaning.