The Torah is Still Binding and We Must Obey It
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Paul saw the Judaizers as being both dangerous to the spread of the Gospel and propagators of grievous doctrinal errors.
In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and the Mosaic Law was how his audience knew what sin is (Romans 3:20), so repenting from our disobedience to it is a central part of the Gospel message, and Paul also taught the Gospel of the Kingdom, yet many Christians are opposed to the Gospel of the Kingdom, so I need to spread the Gospel to them.
Dude, we’re just arguing at this point. It’s like two congressmen preaching morality to each other. The OP left this discussion long ago. How old are you? Do your mom and dad know you’re on their computer down stairs?
I wonder if they will make any attempt answer this question. So far, nothing...
Amen but It’s a whole meticulous system of worship based upon the people being sinful and rebellious idolaters think of it who do you have to teach “ do not kill : if anyone kills a man he must also be killed by the hands of the congregation “
Who do you tell do not commit adultery : anyone who commits adultery must be put to death both the male and female by the hands of the congregstion “
That’s for these people you speak tbat way to a society of killers and adulterers and idolaters and thieves ect
“knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers ( do not kill ) of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”
1 Timothy 1:9-10 KJV
a you tell idolaters who worship idols “ thou shalt not mark idols and worship them and bow down and call them gods have no gods before me ect
once a person understands and believes there’s one God and worship him …..there’s no longer a need to tell this person “ thou shall not make idols and worship false gods ….it’s for the rebellious and unrepentant who won’t accept Christ and the gospel
Romans 10:4
remember, a lot of the judaizers do not take Paul's letters as Scripture, just inspired writings...
If you don’t want to continue participating in the discussion, then that is your choice, but it is pointless for you to continue to discuss how pointless you think that the conversation is. The OP doesn’t need to participate in the discussion in order for the point that they raised to be an important one to discuss. The Gospel of the Kingdom is of central importance to Christianity.
Christ spent his ministry teaching teaching his followers to obey the Mosaic Law by word and by example, so the problem that Paul had with the Judaizers was not that they were teaching Gentiles how to follow Christ, but that they were wanting to require Gentiles to become circumcised in order to become saved, so I completely agree with Paul’s stance against the Judaizers.
" if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved."
show me that in the Mosaic Law.
In Romans 10:5-8, Paul referred to Deuteronomy 30:11-16 as the word of faith that we proclaim in regard to saying that the Mosaic Law is not too difficult for us to obey, in regard to saying that the one who obeys it will attain life by it, in regard to what we are agreeing to obey by confessing that Jesus is Lord, and in regard to the way to believe that God raised him from the dead. In Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to the Mosaic Law is the way to believe that God raised Jesus from the dead (Acts 21:20). Our salvation is from sin (Matthew 1:21) and it is by the Mosaic Law that we have knowledge of what sin is (Romans 3:20), so living in obedience to it through faith in Jesus is intrinsically the content of His gift of saving us from not living in obedience to it, while the position that we are not obligated to obey it is the position that we do not need salvation.
Gospel of the Kingdom. Hmm. So you feel that you have been accomplishing the great commission by arguing your points on this forum over the last 10 or so pages? If you feel that encompasses all your Godly mission, then have at it. Whew
“I was found by those who did not seek me;
I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me.”
But concerning Israel he says,
“All day long I have held out my hands
to a disobedient and obstinate people.”
He cleanses our hearts by faith.
"Now then, why do you test God by placing on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been
able to bear? On the contrary, we believe it is through the grace of the Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
I'm taking the position that we should obey what He has commanded while you are taking the position of being disobedient and obstinate.