Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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I would agree that it is God's desire that His word would go out to the entire world. Some people (His Elect) will hear His word and come to faith. For others, their heart will be hardened and they will be left without excuse. It was never God's plan to save the entire world. If that were His plan, then the entire world would be saved.
To those who think that we must first believe (a work on our part) before being saved, please consider the following teaching.
For these views contradict the Holy Scriptures, which testify that God does infuse or pour into our hearts the new qualities of faith, obedience, and the experiencing of his love: I will put my law in their minds, and write it on their hearts (Jer. 31:33); I will pour water on the thirsty land, and streams on the dry ground; I will pour out my Spirit on your offspring (Isa. 44:3); The love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us (Rom. 5:5). They also conflict with the continuous practice of the Church, which prays with the prophet: Convert me, Lord, and I shall be converted (Jer. 31:18).
To those who think that we must first believe (a work on our part) before being saved, please consider the following teaching.
For these views contradict the Holy Scriptures, which testify that God does infuse or pour into our hearts the new qualities of faith, obedience, and the experiencing of his love: I will put my law in their minds, and write it on their hearts (Jer. 31:33); I will pour water on the thirsty land, and streams on the dry ground; I will pour out my Spirit on your offspring (Isa. 44:3); The love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us (Rom. 5:5). They also conflict with the continuous practice of the Church, which prays with the prophet: Convert me, Lord, and I shall be converted (Jer. 31:18).
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Mathematically speaking, only the Elect will be saved. But Jesus died for those who even rejected Him. But the Bible is not written like a mathematics problem and it says Jesus died for "whole kosmos." A couple places it says the Whole cosmos and even the Believers. So we should present the Bible as it is factually written, not like a Math problem we've already solved.
Thats the ones Christ didnt die for.
The ones Jesus died for He saves them from rejecting Him, He redeems them from all iniquity, Titus 2:14
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
They are redeemed from all iniquity, like unbelief, disobedience, all that, then He purifies them unto Himself.
Once again your views are man centered, not Christ centered like mine.
The ones Jesus died for He saves them from rejecting Him, He redeems them from all iniquity, Titus 2:14
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
They are redeemed from all iniquity, like unbelief, disobedience, all that, then He purifies them unto Himself.
Once again your views are man centered, not Christ centered like mine.
Jesus never said what you said.
Once again, you are NOT telling the truth about what Jesus said.
Jesus said
48 The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day
Is it even possible for you to tell the truth about what Jesus said?
Once again, you are NOT telling the truth about what Jesus said.
Jesus said
48 The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day
Is it even possible for you to tell the truth about what Jesus said?