Plight of the palestinians
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So let's keep the facts straight by listing ALL the terrorist attacks of the Islamist Jihadists worldwide, as well as in and around Israel, which are more than simply human rights abuses. They are VICIOUS attacks on innocent civilians.
The October 7 attack has been thoroughly analyzed by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS): Hamas's October 7 Attack: Visualizing the Data.
Here is what they found:
1. "The October 7 attack was the deadliest terrorist attack against Israel since the state’s establishment in 1948, and the scale of the death toll was unprecedented in Israeli history. The Israeli government’s most recent fatality estimate of 1,200 people killed in the October attack is more than 31 times as large as the number of people killed in the next most fatal attack—the Coastal Road Massacre of 1978"
2. "The October 7 attack is the deadliest per capita terrorist attack since the Global Terrorism Database started data collection in 1970, with a rate of slightly over one person killed per every 10,000 Israelis. This metric adds context for the national impact of the attack and sense of loss for Israel.
3. The unfolding conflict between Hamas and Israel is responsible for the greatest number of both Palestinian and Israeli fatalities in decades. So far, this conflict has killed more Palestinians than all Palestinian-Israeli clashes since the outbreak of the First Intifada combined.
4. The hostage crisis in Gaza has few precedents. It involves mass hostage-taking of many countries’ citizens, efforts to negotiate during a major military operation, and the distribution of hostages across many locations. It may not approach the largest or longest hostage incident in history, but such an incident defies easy comparisons.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/hamass-october-7-attack-visualizing-data
Getting back to the reported rapes, you said "So many lies eh, how about the one about mass rapes that never happened. The reporter from the New York Times was fired over that one." Which is all FAKE NEWS. There was more than one reporter: "By Jeffrey Gettleman, Anat Schwartz and Adam Sella. Jeffrey Gettleman, Anat Schwartz and Adam Sella reported from across Israel and interviewed more than 150 people". So that was your first lie.
And then "The New York Times is defending its high-profile story published in December regarding sexual violence deployed by Hamas terrorists who sparked the Israel-Gaza war, following both internal and external scrutiny of its veracity... On Thursday, a Times spokesperson backed the story saying, “We remain confident in the accuracy of our reporting and stand by the team’s investigation which was rigorously reported, sourced and edited.” https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/york-times-defends-story-hamas-152654750.html. So that is your second lie. No one was fired.
But the NY Times said this: "Israeli officials say that everywhere Hamas terrorists struck — the rave, the military bases along the Gaza border and the kibbutzim — they brutalized women. A two-month investigation by The Times uncovered painful new details, establishing that the attacks against women were not isolated events but part of a broader pattern of gender-based violence on Oct. 7...Relying on video footage, photographs, GPS data from mobile phones and interviews with more than 150 people, including witnesses, medical personnel, soldiers and rape counselors, The Times identified at least seven locations where Israeli women and girls appear to have been sexually assaulted or mutilated.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/28/...-attacks-hamas-israel-sexual-violence.html#:~:
So you wish to blame Israel but exonerate the terrorists. That is just wonderful.
The October 7 attack has been thoroughly analyzed by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS): Hamas's October 7 Attack: Visualizing the Data.
Here is what they found:
1. "The October 7 attack was the deadliest terrorist attack against Israel since the state’s establishment in 1948, and the scale of the death toll was unprecedented in Israeli history. The Israeli government’s most recent fatality estimate of 1,200 people killed in the October attack is more than 31 times as large as the number of people killed in the next most fatal attack—the Coastal Road Massacre of 1978"
2. "The October 7 attack is the deadliest per capita terrorist attack since the Global Terrorism Database started data collection in 1970, with a rate of slightly over one person killed per every 10,000 Israelis. This metric adds context for the national impact of the attack and sense of loss for Israel.
3. The unfolding conflict between Hamas and Israel is responsible for the greatest number of both Palestinian and Israeli fatalities in decades. So far, this conflict has killed more Palestinians than all Palestinian-Israeli clashes since the outbreak of the First Intifada combined.
4. The hostage crisis in Gaza has few precedents. It involves mass hostage-taking of many countries’ citizens, efforts to negotiate during a major military operation, and the distribution of hostages across many locations. It may not approach the largest or longest hostage incident in history, but such an incident defies easy comparisons.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/hamass-october-7-attack-visualizing-data
Getting back to the reported rapes, you said "So many lies eh, how about the one about mass rapes that never happened. The reporter from the New York Times was fired over that one." Which is all FAKE NEWS. There was more than one reporter: "By Jeffrey Gettleman, Anat Schwartz and Adam Sella. Jeffrey Gettleman, Anat Schwartz and Adam Sella reported from across Israel and interviewed more than 150 people". So that was your first lie.
And then "The New York Times is defending its high-profile story published in December regarding sexual violence deployed by Hamas terrorists who sparked the Israel-Gaza war, following both internal and external scrutiny of its veracity... On Thursday, a Times spokesperson backed the story saying, “We remain confident in the accuracy of our reporting and stand by the team’s investigation which was rigorously reported, sourced and edited.” https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/york-times-defends-story-hamas-152654750.html. So that is your second lie. No one was fired.
But the NY Times said this: "Israeli officials say that everywhere Hamas terrorists struck — the rave, the military bases along the Gaza border and the kibbutzim — they brutalized women. A two-month investigation by The Times uncovered painful new details, establishing that the attacks against women were not isolated events but part of a broader pattern of gender-based violence on Oct. 7...Relying on video footage, photographs, GPS data from mobile phones and interviews with more than 150 people, including witnesses, medical personnel, soldiers and rape counselors, The Times identified at least seven locations where Israeli women and girls appear to have been sexually assaulted or mutilated.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/28/...-attacks-hamas-israel-sexual-violence.html#:~:
So you wish to blame Israel but exonerate the terrorists. That is just wonderful.
You believe Israels bombing campaigns throughout the middleeast are not terrorist activities?
Decades of watching children being used as target practice could be termed terrorist activities too.
It's only a matter of time before the prostitute is burned and you should know everything she is doing will be done to her.
This part is simply propaganda and completely untrue.
In case you get some sort of erroneous idea....
I was alive for much of this. I seen firsthand what happened...I didn't read it somewhere. Didn't have someone to tell it to me....I am a witness.
Spitting on me and then try to tell me that it's just raining is NOT going to work here.
So....let's hear it one more time but with the truth this time if you are capable of telling it.
In case you get some sort of erroneous idea....
I was alive for much of this. I seen firsthand what happened...I didn't read it somewhere. Didn't have someone to tell it to me....I am a witness.
Spitting on me and then try to tell me that it's just raining is NOT going to work here.
So....let's hear it one more time but with the truth this time if you are capable of telling it.
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If you were alive in 1948 to witness the beginning of Palestinian refugees,then your memory is probably about as good as Joe Bidens.
During the 1948 Palestine War, some 700,000 [fn 1] Palestinian Arabs or 85% of the Palestinian Arab population of territories that became Israel fled or were expelled from their homes. Some 30,000 to 50,000 [citation needed] were alive by 2012.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugees
The descendents of these refugees from the first war is what you are talking about in other countries but the creation of Israel started it all.There were no Palestinian refugees before1948.
And more are being made every year as the Israeli government expands taking more Palestinian homes and raising them to the ground to make room for more Jews.
Jerusalem — Israel plans to build thousands of new homes in settlements in the Israeli-occupied West Bank in response to a fatal shooting attack by Palestinian gunmen, a senior cabinet minister said. At a time of growing tension over the course of Israel's war on Hamas in the Gaza Strip, Secretary of State Antony Blinken told reporters Friday that the Biden administration was disappointed by the announcement of new homes in the settlements, which he called "inconsistent with international law."
You have shown you are not capable of excepting the truth so you will call this history lesson a lie even though it is history.
If you were alive in 1948 to witness the beginning of Palestinian refugees,then your memory is probably about as good as Joe Bidens.
During the 1948 Palestine War, some 700,000 [fn 1] Palestinian Arabs or 85% of the Palestinian Arab population of territories that became Israel fled or were expelled from their homes. Some 30,000 to 50,000 [citation needed] were alive by 2012.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugees
The descendents of these refugees from the first war is what you are talking about in other countries but the creation of Israel started it all.There were no Palestinian refugees before1948.
And more are being made every year as the Israeli government expands taking more Palestinian homes and raising them to the ground to make room for more Jews.
Jerusalem — Israel plans to build thousands of new homes in settlements in the Israeli-occupied West Bank in response to a fatal shooting attack by Palestinian gunmen, a senior cabinet minister said. At a time of growing tension over the course of Israel's war on Hamas in the Gaza Strip, Secretary of State Antony Blinken told reporters Friday that the Biden administration was disappointed by the announcement of new homes in the settlements, which he called "inconsistent with international law."
You have shown you are not capable of excepting the truth so you will call this history lesson a lie even though it is history.
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Really? Has Israel been deploying terrorists worldwide for decades? No, the blame cannot be on both sides, since one side is having to do whatever it takes merely to survive.
None of this would have happened if Israel had demanded after the Six Day War (whic they won miraculously) that Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States make ample and fair provision for ALL PALESTINIANS by relocating them to Saudi Arabia and setting up proper settlements for them. Since the Palestinian leaders never wanted to peacefully co-exist with Israel, this was the best solution. So it is the Muslim and Arab countries (who have ignored the plight of the Palestinians for decades) who are to blame for the Gaza crisis.
None of this would have happened if Israel had demanded after the Six Day War (whic they won miraculously) that Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States make ample and fair provision for ALL PALESTINIANS by relocating them to Saudi Arabia and setting up proper settlements for them. Since the Palestinian leaders never wanted to peacefully co-exist with Israel, this was the best solution. So it is the Muslim and Arab countries (who have ignored the plight of the Palestinians for decades) who are to blame for the Gaza crisis.
The beast did win that war in 6 days ,didn't it.It was a miraculous win by the little horn.The little horn showed the world just how stout it was .
Daniel 7
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
The king of Israel against the kings of Jordan,Syria and Egypt.
A miraculous win by the beast.
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
If the little horn which came up last,were not so different than it's neighbors,we would not even be having this discussion .But because it is so different,It just doesn't fit in with the rest of the kings in that kingdom.
I can never figure out why so many people who profess Christ love that little horn though.What good can possibly see in it?Is it because Jesus said it would kill his disciples in gospel?Why do "christians "love it so?
If the little horn which came up last,were not so different than it's neighbors,we would not even be having this discussion .But because it is so different,It just doesn't fit in with the rest of the kings in that kingdom.
I can never figure out why so many people who profess Christ love that little horn though.What good can possibly see in it?Is it because Jesus said it would kill his disciples in gospel?Why do "christians "love it so?
I was not alive in 1948....my Father was. And I have always had plenty of people who were eyewitnesses to what happened to know that you are simply a liar or useful idiot....I'll let you choose.
At either rate....
You have proven beyond all shadow of doubt that you are incapable of telling the truth.
Let's start small and see if you lie about this:
Yasser Arafat was a native of Tunisia.
Yes or no?
Waiting.....
At either rate....
You have proven beyond all shadow of doubt that you are incapable of telling the truth.
Let's start small and see if you lie about this:
Yasser Arafat was a native of Tunisia.
Yes or no?
Waiting.....
You don't even know where the meaning of the term Palestinian refugee comes from.Its a shame you are unable to learn the truth.
It defines a "Palestine refugee" as a person "whose normal place of residence was Mandatory Palestine between June 1946 and May 1948, who lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab–Israeli conflict".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pales...Palestine refugee,1948 Arab–Israeli conflict".
It defines a "Palestine refugee" as a person "whose normal place of residence was Mandatory Palestine between June 1946 and May 1948, who lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab–Israeli conflict".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pales...Palestine refugee,1948 Arab–Israeli conflict".
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...he-complicated-plight-of-palestinian-refugees
Displacement is all too familiar to Palestinians. Many fled their homes during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war in a forced migration known in Arabic as the Nakba, or “catastrophe.” After the establishment of Israel, many sought temporary shelter in the Jordan-controlled West Bank and the Egypt-controlled Gaza Strip. Thousands fled once again after the 1967 Six-Day War, in which Israel captured control of the territories.
You sound like a child with your hands over yours ears says "it's not true,it's not true".
Displacement is all too familiar to Palestinians. Many fled their homes during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war in a forced migration known in Arabic as the Nakba, or “catastrophe.” After the establishment of Israel, many sought temporary shelter in the Jordan-controlled West Bank and the Egypt-controlled Gaza Strip. Thousands fled once again after the 1967 Six-Day War, in which Israel captured control of the territories.
You sound like a child with your hands over yours ears says "it's not true,it's not true".