New member on Christian Chat needs advice

[constitutionalest]

Dear CC members,

Hello.

My name is Stephen. I am from Miami, Florida.

I'm reaching out to you, first, as a Pentecostal christian that needs sound advice. Secondly, as a father of two children who, in May 2001, were parentally kidnapped, held hostage for demands, brainwashed, which resulted in their development of Stockholm Syndrome.

We've been going through this tragedy since May 21, 2001. Yet, regardless of the fact that I've done everything I possibly could, in order to get proper legal intervention, all of the complaints, grievances and petitions that I filed with the proper law enforcement authorities, or their supervisory chains of command, or with their entities chief public servant official, were to no avail.

I've lost my children. I've lost my hope in and for my life. And, somewhere along this journey, I lost my way.

I'm at this fork in the road where I either get my human rights honored to seek asylum and present this case to the International Court of Justice under the exhaustion of all domestic judicial remedies clause, or I take the law into my own hands to administer proper justice for the defendant's.

The attached file is the beginnings of a book I started years ago. So before you read it please be aware that it contains some adult language that is very unchristian and not suitable for anyone under 18. I apologize in advance, but that is the only way I can vent my frustration, stress, and anger.

After reading it if you could kindly offer me some advice and or share your opinions on which path I should take, I would be grateful to have another persons prospective.

Thanks.

Stephen Daniel Leonard
2255 NE 136 Terrace
North Miami Beach, Florida 33181
(305) 337-9810
constitutionalest@live.com
political_prisonerinmiami@mail.com

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[TabinRivCA]

Hi Stephen, welcome to the CC fellowship and Forums!!! It's late here and I don't have time to review your material now or this weekend. Taking a giant leap, I'm gonna say I don't think retaliation to the point you're talking about is really worth it. Idk the details but have you prayed about this and not budge til you feel a direction from the Holy Spirit? Faith can move mountains vs the battle you're thinking of entering and it sounds like possibly a tedious one if not a lost one. There are thousands of promises God has given us, surely you can find some to stand on and trust God to perform as He says He will.
Please take care and get some Christian counselling and I pray the Lord bless, keep and guide you through

 

[Gideon300]

Dear CC members,

Hello.

My name is Stephen. I am from Miami, Florida.

I'm reaching out to you, first, as a Pentecostal christian that needs sound advice. Secondly, as a father of two children who, in May 2001, were parentally kidnapped, held hostage for demands, brainwashed, which resulted in their development of Stockholm Syndrome.

We've been going through this tragedy since May 21, 2001. Yet, regardless of the fact that I've done everything I possibly could, in order to get proper legal intervention, all of the complaints, grievances and petitions that I filed with the proper law enforcement authorities, or their supervisory chains of command, or with their entities chief public servant official, were to no avail.

I've lost my children. I've lost my hope in and for my life. And, somewhere along this journey, I lost my way.

I'm at this fork in the road where I either get my human rights honored to seek asylum and present this case to the International Court of Justice under the exhaustion of all domestic judicial remedies clause, or I take the law into my own hands to administer proper justice for the defendant's.

The attached file is the beginnings of a book I started years ago. So before you read it please be aware that it contains some adult language that is very unchristian and not suitable for anyone under 18. I apologize in advance, but that is the only way I can vent my frustration, stress, and anger.

After reading it if you could kindly offer me some advice and or share your opinions on which path I should take, I would be grateful to have another persons prospective.

Thanks.

Stephen Daniel Leonard
2255 NE 136 Terrace
North Miami Beach, Florida 33181
(305) 337-9810
constitutionalest@live.com
political_prisonerinmiami@mail.com

​

Bitterness, resentment and unforgiveness hurt you far more than the people you are mad at. Whatever injustice has been done, you have no right to pursue your own revenge. That's God's business because He knows what you do not. What right do I have to say this? My ex wife took my children to an unknown address, contrary to a court order. In those days, and maybe still, such orders were unenforceable. At the same time, I was required to pay child support, even though I had no say in who the money was spent. Most of the Christians I knew turned against me.

By what has to be a miracle, i found my ex and children 15 years later. There was no hate or hostility in my heart towards my ex. She tried to poison my son's heart against me, but she failed. My daughter has cut me off. That's her choice. I am well aware that she is suffering a great deal, married to a loser and living in near poverty. My son is doing just fine.

I have never been more blessed in my life. We are about to sell up and move to a retirement home. I have no doubt that I would be still in misery and depression if I'd held onto my unforgiveness. By the grace of God, I am entirely free. There are many who have been treated much worse than I have. But the principle remains. No doubt you know the parable of the unjust servant. No sin against us personally can compare to the offences that mount up before our holy Heavenly Father.

Is what you are pursuing worth the price? No. I read a book by a holocaust survivor, a psychologist who suffered terribly in a concentration camp. He learned the value of forgiveness towards his oppressors. He says that those who did not forgive never recovered from the ordeal. He went on to have a productive and contented life.

 

[constitutionalest]

Hi Stephen, welcome to the CC fellowship and Forums!!! It's late here and I don't have time to review your material now or this weekend. Taking a giant leap, I'm gonna say I don't think retaliation to the point you're talking about is really worth it. Idk the details but have you prayed about this and not budge til you feel a direction from the Holy Spirit? Faith can move mountains vs the battle you're thinking of entering and it sounds like possibly a tedious one if not a lost one. There are thousands of promises God has given us, surely you can find some to stand on and trust God to perform as He says He will.
Please take care and get some Christian counselling and I pray the Lord bless, keep and guide you through

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and giving me advice.

In response,
yes. I prayed. Almost everyday.
No. I didn't feel the spiritual guidance leading me to stop fighting for justice.
Yes. I did seek counseling and was told that there are times abd trials in life that we must face. They're not easy but we have to struggle to overcome the wrongs no matter what it takes.

Thx.

 

[Bingo]

"I can only hope that God's wisdom is an influence in your decisions."

 

[Subhumanoidal]

Aren't the children adults at this point? Capable of deciding for themselves?

The issue with situations like this is only hearing one side of things. It's possible that you're a genuine victim of someone who is unstable, at best. It's also possible you were the reason they left to begin with.
We have no way of knowing. And now entertaining the notion of premeditated violence or worse, doesn't bode well for you, or your children. If you're convinced they've been brainwashed against you, well, if you follow through with your act of vengeance you're effectively self fulfilling prophecy, so to speak. Confirming to them any negative views they hold and eliminating any chance of reconciliation with them in the future.

Romans 12:18-21

17 Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. 18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. 19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” 20 To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

 

[tourist]

Sorry about your horrible ordeal you went through and are still feeling the effects. Glad to have you onboard with us. Welcome to CC.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

I've lost my children. I've lost my hope in and for my life.

Precious friend, been there, done that [ two children, one died, the other estranged ]. I will pray for you.

God Encourages [ 37 years later, second wife and sweetest blind/mentally
slow 'angel' of a daughter in the world! ] and, God Comforts with:

God's Grace Word for our infirmities!

Amen.

 

[Magenta]

Welcome!

Happy New Year 2024

 

[tyler87432f]

Bitterness, resentment and unforgiveness hurt you far more than the people you are mad at. Whatever injustice has been done, you have no right to pursue your own revenge. That's God's business because He knows what you do not. What right do I have to say this? My ex wife took my children to an unknown address, contrary to a court order. In those days, and maybe still, such orders were unenforceable. At the same time, I was required to pay child support, even though I had no say in who the money was spent. Most of the Christians I knew turned against me.

By what has to be a miracle, i found my ex and children 15 years later. There was no hate or hostility in my heart towards my ex. She tried to poison my son's heart against me, but she failed. My daughter has cut me off. That's her choice. I am well aware that she is suffering a great deal, married to a loser and living in near poverty. My son is doing just fine.

I have never been more blessed in my life. We are about to sell up and move to a retirement home. I have no doubt that I would be still in misery and depression if I'd held onto my unforgiveness. By the grace of God, I am entirely free. There are many who have been treated much worse than I have. But the principle remains. No doubt you know the parable of the unjust servant. No sin against us personally can compare to the offences that mount up before our holy Heavenly Father.

Is what you are pursuing worth the price? No. I read a book by a holocaust survivor, a psychologist who suffered terribly in a concentration camp what is a terrace . He learned the value of forgiveness towards his oppressors. He says that those who did not forgive never recovered from the ordeal . He went on to have a productive and contented life.

This post look great

 

[Tall_Timbers]

Welcome, constitutionalist!

 

[andy700700]

John 8:12
New International Version
12 When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

Philippians 4:6-7
New International Version
6 Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

Luke 15
New International Version
Now the tax collectors and sinners were all gathering around to hear Jesus. 2 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.”
3 Then Jesus told them this parable: 4 “Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? 5 And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders 6 and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ 7 I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.
8 “Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins[a] and loses one. Doesn’t she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? 9 And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.’ 10 In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”
11 Jesus continued: “There was a man who had two sons. 12 The younger one said to his father, ‘Father, give me my share of the estate.’ So he divided his property between them.
13 “Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country and there squandered his wealth in wild living. 14 After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in that whole country, and he began to be in need. 15 So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. 16 He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything.
17 “When he came to his senses, he said, ‘How many of my father’s hired servants have food to spare, and here I am starving to death! 18 I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19 I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired servants.’ 20 So he got up and went to his father.
“But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him.
21 “The son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.’
22 “But the father said to his servants, ‘Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23 Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let’s have a feast and celebrate. 24 For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’ So they began to celebrate.
25 “Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26 So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27 ‘Your brother has come,’ he replied, ‘and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.’
28 “The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29 But he answered his father, ‘Look! All these years I’ve been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30 But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!’
31 “‘My son,’ the father said, ‘you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. 32 But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’”