Nothing.So I take it you can't find any Scriptures to back your answer. Then case closed, if not tell me plainly what you want to know?
Nothing.So I take it you can't find any Scriptures to back your answer. Then case closed, if not tell me plainly what you want to know?
So you made a comment,Why?
What would you do with the information?
Would you try every way possible to discount it and/or try to find a loophole?
There comes a point when questions asked in a disingenuous manner that you figure out that it's really not worth your time.
You are here to prove your point and not actually try to learn. You do the same to scriptures already. It's called proof texting or eisogesis.
Literally every book in the Old Testament and New is full of proof. Especially when read in context.
I respond and respect with how questions are asked. When trying to have a conversation with someone and I get talked at instead of talked with...guess what? I'm not a characature or false persona....I'm a person. Not a sounding board to carve and sand to someone else's desires. Sure I got splinters. So does everyone. That's people!So you made a comment,
Someone asked you to prove it with the word.
and this is how you respond?
wow!!
You made a statement, you stated was a fact. (that God hates sinners)I respond and respect with how questions are asked. When trying to have a conversation with someone and I get talked at instead of talked with...guess what? I'm not a characature or false persona....I'm a person. Not a sounding board to carve and sand to someone else's desires. Sure I got splinters. So does everyone. That's people!
If feelings get bruised that easily then maybe the internet is not somewhere you should be hanging out or use for conversation. Do it in person until you get the hang of interacting with others.
Can two walk together if they don't have some agreement? Why should I walk with someone if I don't know where they are going? I can scratch my itching ears myself quite well...and I get suspicious when others try do it. (Perfectly happy pessimist thank you very much).
That's why.
The OP question....You made a statement, you stated was a fact. (that God hates sinners)
someone asked you to prove that statement with scripture (to be honest, I would also like to see your proof. Because I deny that what you said is true myself)
You attacked him for it.
what is wrong with people that they are unable to see their own mistakes? And can not humble themselves?
Tylerbones did not ask you about the OP question. Niether am I,The OP question....
If they are in hell they are there because they did not believe, But that does not mean God did not love them,, this is why we ask you the question..If they are in Hell they don't get out and are getting what they worked for their entire lives.
Doesn't seem like love to me....they wished to be unloved by God and eventually got their way. What's so hard to prove?
Sorry my friend, To claim God does not love sinners will require biblical proof. Or you have just given us what you THINK to be trueDoesn't require any scripture. It's "prima facia" evidence.
No one said otherwise. and that was not the question asked youJust because they will regret the consequences of their choices doesn't change them or allow them to make a different choice.
Does God Love unrepentant sinners who are in hell?
2 Peter 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but delivered them, drawn down by infernal ropes to the lower hell, unto torments, to be reserved unto judgment.
No, it's too late for them and for the reprobates.Does God Love unrepentant sinners who are in hell?
2 Peter 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but delivered them, drawn down by infernal ropes to the lower hell, unto torments, to be reserved unto judgment.
Does God Love unrepentant sinners who are in hell?
2 Peter 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but delivered them, drawn down by infernal ropes to the lower hell, unto torments, to be reserved unto judgment.
No, it's too late for them and for the reprobates.
How can you outright say that God doesn't Love.
Why?
What would you do with the information?
Would you try every way possible to discount it and/or try to find a loophole?
There comes a point when questions asked in a disingenuous manner that you figure out that it's really not worth your time.
You are here to prove your point and not actually try to learn. You do the same to scriptures already. It's called proof texting or eisogesis.
Literally every book in the Old Testament and New is full of proof. Especially when read in context.
Not the PEOPLE just their DECISIONS. He hates their wickedness but never hates them.God is Love and He so loved the world.
What I said in no way denies any or all attributes of the Lord. That said, what would deny God's other attributes would be to say that He loves those He says that He hates.
Does God not hate some people?
Isn't He angry with the wicked every day?
Answered already.Why so evasive? Let's see some of that there exegesis as you understand it from the Bible we all say we believe.
I've been here a long time. My agenda is honesty and actual dialogue. Often hard to come by in this and many Christian forums.
Not the PEOPLE just their DECISIONS. He hates their wickedness but never hates them.
Did he love the Cities, as He rained fire and brimstone upon Sodom and Gomorrah?
Genesis 19
Unrepentant and in Hell....
And somehow they can be redeemed?
They get yet another chance? (Not counting the millions of chances they had on Earth)
At what point does prima fascia evidence not become prima fascia? (As plain as the nose on your face)
Where God's mercy and grace might seem limitless and timeless....even He has a cut off point. And a person's residence in Hell would be a good clue to the end of it.
If Lazarus couldn't bring a finger of water or get a message to his brothers....then I'd say that you can't get there from there....there are no roads.
I think where churches often misunderstand this truth is that they decide to focus on that one attribute of God to the exclusion of His justice. In spite of our sins, He so loved the world. He must love every child born into the world. As people make a number of decisions and draws all men into Him, there's a point at which either...
A. They harden their heart against God. He in turn can decide to do likewise. Ie. Pharaoh in Moses' time. Romans 1 for a well known NT description...
Or
B. As you described, it's too late once death occurs. This often saddens me like it did when I heard of the death of an admired acquaintance who was 101 in 2020. I hoped that I would have had another opportunity to share the good news with him.