Daniel and Matthews abomination of desolation.
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You claimed all.the Israelis who died Oct 7th were safe.
Now they are dead.
Ezekiel ,38;8
After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
The Jews went into captivity in 70 AD because they transgressed Jesus. Ezekiel 39:23.
Latter days, latter years....
The parable of the fig tree generation is based upon Israel being a nation again in the land, 1948, and Jerusalem back in the hands of the Jews, 1967.
The Jews sought to return to the land of Israel where they can live in safety following WWII during which 6 million were killed during the Holocaust, being shot and put to death in gas chambers.
Yes, it is tragic that the number of Israeli's that died in the Hamas attack. One person killed is even tragic to die from a unwarranted violent attack.
But compared to what they came from during the so-called WWII Nazi "final solution" - the Jews are living in safety in Israel.
Once the destruction of Hamas is completed, Israel will be at rest, before the fall comes. Also Russia's involvement in Ukraine should be finished by that time. Neither is a guarantee. But a likely scenario.
From a timeline standpoint, the Gog/Magog event must take place before the end of 2030.
Parable of the fig tree generation.
1967 + 70 yrs/generation, Psalms 90:10 = 2037. 2037 minus 7 years = 2030
1948 + 80 yrs/generation, if by strength Psalms 90:10 = 2038 2038 minus 7 years = 2031
The Jews went into captivity in 70 AD because they transgressed Jesus. Ezekiel 39:23.
Latter days, latter years....
The parable of the fig tree generation is based upon Israel being a nation again in the land, 1948, and Jerusalem back in the hands of the Jews, 1967.
The Jews sought to return to the land of Israel where they can live in safety following WWII during which 6 million were killed during the Holocaust, being shot and put to death in gas chambers.
Yes, it is tragic that the number of Israeli's that died in the Hamas attack. One person killed is even tragic to die from a unwarranted violent attack.
But compared to what they came from during the so-called WWII Nazi "final solution" - the Jews are living in safety in Israel.
Once the destruction of Hamas is completed, Israel will be at rest, before the fall comes. Also Russia's involvement in Ukraine should be finished by that time. Neither is a guarantee. But a likely scenario.
From a timeline standpoint, the Gog/Magog event must take place before the end of 2030.
Parable of the fig tree generation.
1967 + 70 yrs/generation, Psalms 90:10 = 2037. 2037 minus 7 years = 2030
1948 + 80 yrs/generation, if by strength Psalms 90:10 = 2038 2038 minus 7 years = 2031
You said they all dwell safely,now they are dead.
You claimed all.the Israelis who died Oct 7th were safe.
Now they are dead.
Ezekiel ,38;8
After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
All of them.Not some.Not most
All.of them.
In 2028
They die?
Everyone that you say are safe will die just as them you said we're safe before Oct 7th 2023.
Ezekiel ,38;8
After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
They die?
Everyone that you say are safe will die just as them you said we're safe before Oct 7th 2023.
Ezekiel ,38;8
After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
I never said that Gog/Magog would happen tomorrow.
The pre-condition to the Gog/Magog event is that Israel is at rest.
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
The pre-condition to the Gog/Magog event is that Israel is at rest.
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
The Jews who followed the beast into the promised land will have no rest.
The fact that God tells Israel he will bring them up out of their graves should tell you something but you keep insisting God will not bring israel.up.out of their graves.You say they have to stay in their graves.
God says he will bring Israel up out of their graves.
You say God does not bring Israel up out of their graves.
You contradict everything God says.
Ezekiel 37
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
Why do you continue to reject God's meaning to those verses ? God's meaning to those verses is in verses 19-23.
In Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Do you really think that means physically blind ?
In Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Do you really think that means physically blind ?
False
Coming out of a grave is not blindness.
A grave is exactly what I have told you.
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Ezekiel 37
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
The resurection when Israel comes up out of their graves is a true event.Israel will literally come up out of their graves and shall be a nation once more.
Not the beast which many people worship in the middle east today but the true kingdom of Israel with its rightful king .
John 12:13
They took palm branches and went out to meet him, shouting, “Hosanna!” “Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!” “Blessed is the king of Israel!”
You have been decieved by the beast which you believe is a holy government founded by God.
The Lord has not come and gathered his elect Doug.The people you believe are God's people followed after the beast and now live it it's kingdom.The people you believe are holy are profane and worship the beast .
And you believe God will fight for them who deny his son and reject the gospel.You couldn't be further from.the truth.
Mark 16:15-16
He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
My point was coming out of the grave in Ezekiel 37 is not a literal resurrection of individuals - just as blindness in Romans 11:25 is not literal blindness.
Why don't you quote Ezekiel 37:19-23 - God's meaning to the verses ?
The verses in Ezekiel 37 are about Israel becoming one unified nation again, no longer two nations of north and south. No individual person was resurrected out of the grave for what happened on May 14, 1948.
Look at a map of modern day Israel and compare to the map of the two kingdoms. Israel is one nation again, it's land mass containing the northern and southern kingdoms.
Why don't you quote Ezekiel 37:19-23 - God's meaning to the verses ?
The verses in Ezekiel 37 are about Israel becoming one unified nation again, no longer two nations of north and south. No individual person was resurrected out of the grave for what happened on May 14, 1948.
Look at a map of modern day Israel and compare to the map of the two kingdoms. Israel is one nation again, it's land mass containing the northern and southern kingdoms.
False. Your imagine has run wild. I don't believe that Israel is the kingdom of the beast. Nor the beast-king, the King of Israel.
The kingdom of the beast will be the EU in its last stages.
The beast-king will be the dictator of the EU.
The person who becomes the beast-king goes through 5 stages.
1, the little horn - leader over ten EU leaders.
2. the prince who shall come - into the middle east following the Gog/Magog event.
3. the Antichrist -anointed the King of Israel, thought-to-be messiah of the Jews.
4. the revealed man of sin - revealed not to be the messiah of the Jews. End of his Antichrist stage, phony King of Israel.
5. the beast-king - brought back to life after being killed. Becomes dictator of the EU, kingdom of the beast-king.
You can quote me on those 5 stages. But don't lie about what I believe.
The kingdom of the beast will be the EU in its last stages.
The beast-king will be the dictator of the EU.
The person who becomes the beast-king goes through 5 stages.
1, the little horn - leader over ten EU leaders.
2. the prince who shall come - into the middle east following the Gog/Magog event.
3. the Antichrist -anointed the King of Israel, thought-to-be messiah of the Jews.
4. the revealed man of sin - revealed not to be the messiah of the Jews. End of his Antichrist stage, phony King of Israel.
5. the beast-king - brought back to life after being killed. Becomes dictator of the EU, kingdom of the beast-king.
You can quote me on those 5 stages. But don't lie about what I believe.
This is God's meaning which you can not see or hear.
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.
That is God's word and it is his meaning.
Because of you love and support for the beast,you ignore God's word and change it do that you can claim them who followed the beast have God's as spirit when they don't.
No, once the head on the beast in Revelation 13 receives the deadly wound and is healed, that king has only 42 months left before being cast alive in to the bottomless pit.
And stop lying (the text in red) about what I believe or I am going to start reporting your posts. Don't say what I believe. Copy and paste what I believe if you want. But don't lie about what I believe. Nor put words in my mouth.
And stop lying (the text in red) about what I believe or I am going to start reporting your posts. Don't say what I believe. Copy and paste what I believe if you want. But don't lie about what I believe. Nor put words in my mouth.
You should believe God will do what he says.He will resurrect Israel from the dead and raise all of Israel out of their graves.I understand you find that hard to believe but God can and will do it.
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.
The beast will be destroyed and you will be astounded that God did not defend it.The beast which was healed in 1948 which you say is the kingdom of Israel will be destroyed.
God will raise up against that kingdom the nations and those anti Christ shall be scattered.
Deut 28
15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.
17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store.
18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.
19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out.
20 The Lord shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.
21 The Lord shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it.
22 The Lord shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish.
23 And thy heaven that is over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee shall be iron.
24 The Lord shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed.
25 The Lord shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.
26 And thy carcase shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall fray them away.
27 The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed.
28 The Lord shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart:
29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.
30 Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.
31 Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them.
32 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand.
33 The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway:
34 So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
35 The Lord shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head.
36 The Lord shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.
37 And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the Lord shall lead thee.
38 Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it.
39 Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them.
40 Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit.
42 All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume.
43 The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.
44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.
45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:
46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
47 Because thou servedst not the Lord thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;
48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the Lord shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.
49 The Lord shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;
50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:
51 And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.
52 And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the Lord thy God hath given thee.
53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the Lord thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee:
54 So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave:
55 So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates.
56 The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter,
57 And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates.
58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, The Lord Thy God;
59 Then the Lord will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.
60 Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee.
61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the Lord bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed.
62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the Lord thy God.
63 And it shall come to pass, that as the Lord rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the Lord will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it.
64 And the Lord shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.
65 And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the Lord shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:
66 And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life:
67 In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
68 And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.