Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

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Still no answer, thank you.
what are you talking about i have gave you two answers.

You should study them like I have.

This may be alarming to you when you study.

But there are Arab Christians who also deserve the title of hebrews 😊

You need to study the two links and be gentleman.

Yes religious wars are not religious they are political.

I can not wake you up friend.

You must wake up for yourself
 

Moses_Young

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I respect that decision. But part of the war is a battle for who controls ground. In my honest assessment, and yetanyahu shouts this is religious war.

So if anything yetanyahu is clearly wrong, it's not a religious war, and he needs locking up.

So this is why I'm raising this issue because clearly this is to blame for this war
I agree Netanyahu is a war criminal, and if he gets a fair trial, he would likely be deserving of the same fates as the other Nazis received in the Nuremberg trials. But I don't like the idea of senseless bloodshed - I believe there likely is enough land for all those identifying as Jews, and those identifying as Palestinians.
 

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what are you talking about i have gave you two answers.

You should study them like I have.

This may be alarming to you when you study.

But there are Arab Christians who also deserve the title of hebrews 😊

You need to study the two links and be gentleman.

Yes religious wars are not religious they are political.

I can not wake you up friend.

You must wake up for yourself
No to my answers you gave no answer. But I found this as a strategie? Several times on this forum. Dont answer, but through something different in the ring.
This question me about the seriousity of a person.
 
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No to my answers you gave no answer. But I found this as a strategie? Several times on this forum. Dont answer, but through something different in the ring.
This question me about the seriousity of a person.
well maybe it would be best if you remind me of your question, as maybe your English may not have been clear
 

wolfwint

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well maybe it would be best if you remind me of your question, as maybe your English may not have been clear
Again to my questions:
So what is your different between hebrews and jews?
What 12 tribe members are mentioned in the book of Revelation, if according your meaning only the tribe judah is left?
 

wolfwint

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I have no idea what your asking, honestly
So it is not an language Problem. but of ability to understand. This question is very clear.
Is the Islam man made? God made ? Ore devil made?
 
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So it is not an language Problem. but of ability to understand. This question is very clear.
Is the Islam man made? God made ? Ore devil made?
this question is impossible for me to answer in one of three short answers.

Firstly Muhammed could not read or write.

Muhammed said Jesus was the Messiah..

Have the Jews ever said this.

I understand Muhammed wrote the Qur'an. but claims like all prophets he wrote it on God's authority.



Secondly the Qur'an readers don't know how to understand the Qur'an because Muhammed could not read or write

This is all I know. Did Muhammed intentionally lie or did he make mistakes in his spelling.

And God says he creates calamity too.

So I don't know is the answer

And that's my final answer

The Qur'an quotes many of God's prophets in our bible as well as the book of pslams.

So one thing I know is the prophets are not dead.

I also know many Muslims have come to believe in Jesus because of the Qur'an


This is all I know.

As for the Muslims who debate what the Messiah means, or how Jesus died.

There all Just debaters of the word like the whole world.

In Christianity everyone debates the word of God too. But is there any authors who could not read or write.

So what happened to Muhammed to write lies down, if he once claimed Jesus Christ was the Messiah.

What happened to him.

Has his word been corrupted by someone else.

I mean I can not answer
 

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this question is impossible for me to answer in one of three short answers.

Firstly Muhammed could not read or write.

Muhammed said Jesus was the Messiah..

Have the Jews ever said this.

I understand Muhammed wrote the Qur'an. but claims like all prophets he wrote it on God's authority.



Secondly the Qur'an readers don't know how to understand the Qur'an because Muhammed could not read or write

This is all I know. Did Muhammed intentionally lie or did he make mistakes in his spelling.

And God says he creates calamity too.

So I don't know is the answer

And that's my final answer

The Qur'an quotes many of God's prophets in our bible as well as the book of pslams.

So one thing I know is the prophets are not dead.

I also know many Muslims have come to believe in Jesus because of the Qur'an


This is all I know.

As for the Muslims who debate what the Messiah means, or how Jesus died.

There all Just debaters of the word like the whole world.

In Christianity everyone debates the word of God too. But is there any authors who could not read or write.

So what happened to Muhammed to write lies down, if he once claimed Jesus Christ was the Messiah.

What happened to him.

Has his word been corrupted by someone else.

I mean I can not answer
Ok thank you for reply, this helps me a little bit to understand your view.
Like Joseph Smith (founder of the Mormons) Mohammed claim that he got his teaching from an angel.
I believe that in both cases it was and is the devil behind this teaching and not God!
 
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Ok thank you for reply, this helps me a little bit to understand your view.
Like Joseph Smith (founder of the Mormons) Mohammed claim that he got his teaching from an angel.
I believe that in both cases it was and is the devil behind this teaching and not God!
who knows really,. Again I know as much about Mormons as i do about muslims.

But by the looks of It, I would a agree that the devil confuses people.

My point is why should we calls the Arabs evil for the devils works

The devil has confused a person called John Calvin too.

So should I hate John Calvin or the devil.

Our battle is not against flesh and blood.

But to undo the works of the devil 😊
 

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But the circumcision of the heart I wonder is that for the hebrews or is that for the Jews.
And is the translation of Jews in the bible always overlooked, that it should be refering
to Hebrew as well. Like the word hebrew has been left out by Jewish translators 😀.

I get told by well studied people Abraham was a Hebrew.
Paul calls himself a Hebrew, of the tribe of Benjamin. The definitive origin of the term "Hebrew"
remains uncertain, but it generally means to traverse, to pass over, a wanderer. Isaac being the
son of promise to Abraham fathered Jacob, whose name God changed to Israel, out of whom came
the twelve tribes. You seem to keep overlooking this fact. There are some language groups that
never transferred the word Hebrew to Jew, and Hebrew remains the primary word used to refer
to an ethnic Jew, but I doubt you are among those groups, so I am not sure why you persist.
 

wolfwint

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who knows really,. Again I know as much about Mormons as i do about muslims.

But by the looks of It, I would a agree that the devil confuses people.

My point is why should we calls the Arabs evil for the devils works

The devil has confused a person called John Calvin too.

So should I hate John Calvin or the devil.

Our battle is not against flesh and blood.

But to undo the works of the devil 😊
It seems you have some sympathy with the Isalm. Thats then makes understandable that you dont like jews.

Now to the other questions
What now about Judah? You said this is the only left tribe of Israel. Who are then the 12 tribes which mentioned in the book of Revelation? An Event which will come true in Future?
And whatbis the different between hebrews and jews?
 
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Paul calls himself a Hebrew, of the tribe of Benjamin. The definitive origin of the term "Hebrew"
remains uncertain, but it generally means to traverse, to pass over, a wanderer. Isaac being the
son of promise to Abraham fathered Jacob, whose name God changed to Israel, out of whom came
the twelve tribes. You seem to keep overlooking this fact. There are some language groups that
never transferred the word Hebrew to Jew, and Hebrew remains the primary word used to refer
to an ethnic Jew, but I doubt you are among those groups, so I am not sure why you persist.
It seems you have some sympathy with the Isalm. Thats then makes understandable that you dont like jews.

Now to the other questions
What now about Judah? You said this is the only left tribe of Israel. Who are then the 12 tribes which mentioned in the book of Revelation? An Event which will come true in Future?
And whatbis the different between hebrews and jews?
Jewish ethnic divisions I think is where we should lay are ideas here.

It's not just one distinct community. I've even heard it said that some division of Arabs deserve the title of hebrews.

All tho the Jews consider themselves a distinct ethnicity, there are clearly ethnic divisions among the Jews

So why should we confuse the matter further.

If Paul refers to himself as a Hebrew is that because he had joined there beliefs, or was he a Hebrew by blood.
 

Magenta

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why should we confuse the matter further.
Exactly. So, when are you going to stop?

I've even heard it said that some division of Arabs deserve the title of hebrews.
In ancient times they were Semitic. From a general search: Semitic people or Semites is an obsolete term for
an ethnic, cultural or racial group associated with people of the Middle East, including Arabs, Jews, Akkadians,
and Phoenicians. The terminology is now largely unused outside the grouping "Semitic languages" in linguistics.
 
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Exactly. So, when are you going to stop?


In ancient times they were Semitic. From a general search: Semitic people or Semites is an obsolete term for
an ethnic, cultural or racial group associated with people of the Middle East, including Arabs, Jews, Akkadians,
and Phoenicians. The terminology is now largely unused outside the grouping "Semitic languages" in linguistics.
this is all confusing the matter more.

The bible says Abraham was a Hebrew.

It doesn't give any explanation of what Hebrew is.

But I'm certain God was not calling abraham a language or a terminology.

IT seems pretty certain to me a Hebrew was a distinct blood line, distinct from the Jews