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douggg · Jan 30, 2024

The seventh trumpet third woe judgment is a not the rapture resurrection. The problem is that you don't understand that the time, times, half time that Satan will have left coincides with the 42 months of the beast's rule - i.e. the second half of the 7 years, the great tribulation taking place here on earth.

What Revelation 11:18 means...

While the great tribulation will be taking place here on earth during that 42 months/ time,times, half time, the bema seat review of Christians that had gone to heaven before the great tribulation begins in the rapture/resurrection will be given rewards for what they did in their lives here on earth for the cause of Christ.

in heaven ........................ .......while......................... ........on earth
bema seat review is taking place.............................. the great tribulation is taking place

"The term Bema Seat of Christ is a term that comes from 2 Corinthians 5:10. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad. The word for judgment used in the Greek is the word bema."

2Corinthians5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Shilohsfoal · Jan 31, 2024

Pilgrimshope said:

“But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭11:2, 15-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

what actually is happening there ? Something is being announced in heaven

then you begin to see that mystery that was announced earlier would happen ( when the seventh angel began to sound ) this next vision will fulfill the announcement just made by the seventh trumpet about the kingdom and Christ in heaven and also gods wrath that’s foretold in tbe it upon the earth would begin to progress

“And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. ( Jesus after his resurrection)

( now something is actually happening in heaven they aren’t just announcing something it’s happening )
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

( now another announcement saying it’s been fulfilled )

And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.

Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

….And the dragon ( on earth ) was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:5, 7-12, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Now we’re seeing the gospel promises by the prophets being fulfilled the son of man is born to Israel and overcomes satan trying to destroy him and then is caught up to God and his throne .

This is a trumpet warning from the ot an announcement to gods people that somthing major is about to happen and it tells us what

“the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever”

Chapter twelve is showing us how it was fulfilled so we see after Jesus is born and taken up to Gods throne satan is ejected forever from heaven and now what they announced is beginning to happen foret in heaven later in the end of revelation also on earth

And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ:

That’s when the heavenly kingdom is established with Christ as king revelation 20 and then 21 is about the dead being judged that’s when that part is fulfilled …… as it was announced by seventh trumpet also but it hadn’t actually happened if you notice just like chrirt hadn’t yet began to rule it was announcing it it’s a figure for prophecy that was announcing e messiah and his kingdom beforehand and warning then to repent

Notice the gentiles occupy Jerusalem for 42 months preceding the 7th trump.Not afterward.There are no gentiles mentioned after the 7th Trump when the kingdom is given to Christ.

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

You do err not understanding scripture and twisting it backwards.

Shilohsfoal · Jan 31, 2024

douggg said:

So you are saying that God does not reward his servants the prophets and the saints at the time of the dead when the 7th Trump sounds as God says.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Why do you believe God does not reward his servants the prophets at the time of the dead and Insted will leave them on their graves?

Shilohsfoal · Jan 31, 2024

Pilgrimshope said:

Dont stop reading.

Revelation 11

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying,…..

“The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.”

And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.”

They are just saying something because the purpose of a tru pet being sounded was to announce something to Gods people lol

At he next chapter is when that announcement is taking place 😂
“And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The dead are raised up and judged here

“And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:11-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The ot prophets and saints who were dead probably here in the same time period I’m telling you

“And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:51-53‬ ‭KJV‬‬

All that happens is an announcement is made then you see how it’s being fulfilled later in the next chapter and rest of the book until you get to the jidgement

It’s progressively revealed it’s an apacolypse not a literal timeline of events

“And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; and the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; and said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭6:12-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.”( this happens throughout the rest of the book till you arrive here )
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭11:18‬ ‭

“And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged ( no one’s announcing anything it’s happening now ) out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:12-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

then the rewards come to pass as his promises culminate

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s okay if we don t see it the same but aren’t you getting tired at just going in circles ? I sure am it’s not the end of the world if we disagree …I’m totally fine with it

Chapter 12 is not a continuation of chapter 11
King Herod trying to kill Christ took place long ago.

Revelation 12
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Are you saying this is not Christ whom Herod is trying to kill?You believe someone else will be born who shall rule all nations ?

Shilohsfoal · Jan 31, 2024

Pilgrimshope said:

Dont stop reading.

Revelation 11

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying,…..

“The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.”

And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.”

They are just saying something because the purpose of a tru pet being sounded was to announce something to Gods people lol

At he next chapter is when that announcement is taking place 😂
“And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The dead are raised up and judged here

“And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:11-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The ot prophets and saints who were dead probably here in the same time period I’m telling you

“And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:51-53‬ ‭KJV‬‬

All that happens is an announcement is made then you see how it’s being fulfilled later in the next chapter and rest of the book until you get to the jidgement

It’s progressively revealed it’s an apacolypse not a literal timeline of events

“And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; and the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; and said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭6:12-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.”( this happens throughout the rest of the book till you arrive here )
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭11:18‬ ‭

“And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged ( no one’s announcing anything it’s happening now ) out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:12-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

then the rewards come to pass as his promises culminate

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s okay if we don t see it the same but aren’t you getting tired at just going in circles ? I sure am it’s not the end of the world if we disagree …I’m totally fine with it

Can you provide scripture showing the last trumpet in revelation when the dead in Christ rise and he mystery of God which he declared to his servants will be fulfilled?

This last Trump and this mystery of God.

1 corinth 15:51-54
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

douggg · Jan 31, 2024

Shilohsfoal said:

Why don't you go back and read what I wrote?

While the great tribulation is taking place here on earth in the days of the voice of the seventh angel sounding, during the time, times, half time left of Satan who will have been cast down to earth.....

NOW PAY ATTENTION, SHILOHSFOAL!

......In heaven, Jesus will be rewarding the prophets and saints, as they appear at the bema seat of Christ..

Shilohsfoal said:

Why do you not believe that God will be rewarding the prophets and saints of the rapture/resurrection IN HEAVEN, while the great tribulation is taking place on earth ?

The resurrection does not leave the resurrected dead in Christ "on their graves". Why do you even type something like that ?

Shilohsfoal · Jan 31, 2024

Pilgrimshope said:

OH I get it.
You believe the last Trump in revelation is sounded here at the second resurection in revelation.Why don't you believe the saints who are killed for their testimony of Christ and who did not worship the beast or it's image are resurected in the first resurection at the sound of the 7th trump ?Instead you believe they miss the Sabbath and don't reign with Christ in his kingdom?

Can you provide the verse in revelation 20:11-15 of the last trump being sounded and the dead in Christ rising ?

Shilohsfoal · Jan 31, 2024

douggg said:

Satan is not on earth?
Oh my.

Luke 10:18
He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

According to scripture ,the saints are rewarded on earth in Christs kingdom once it has come.

Revelation 2:26
And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

And here are those saints who are rewarded in his kingdom ruling over the nations.

Revelation 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Let us notice the saints are not in the sky reigning over the nations but are upon earth where the nations are.This kingdom in which they reign is their reward.It is referd to in the gospel as the kingdom of God .In the old testament it is simple called the kingdom of Israel.

douggg · Jan 31, 2024

Pilgrimshope · Jan 31, 2024

Shilohsfoal said:

“Satan is not on earth?
Oh my.”

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭

If you don’t begin with thinking you know you everything you might possibly be able to hear and learn from scripture .

“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”( Christian’s )
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:9, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬
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douggg · Jan 31, 2024

Shilohsfoal said:

The raptured/resurrected saints, who receive rewards at the bema seat of Christ, will return with Jesus as the bride of Christ in Revelation 19. And will reign and rule with Christ on this earth.

Also to reign and rule will Christ will be the resurrected great tribulation martyrs in Revelation 20:4-6.

And also to reign with Christ will be faithful to Jesus great tribulation saints, who manage to survive the great tribulation.

Shilohsfoal · Jan 31, 2024

Pilgrimshope said:

“Satan is not on earth?
Oh my.”

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭

If you don’t begin with thinking you know you everything you might possibly be able to hear and learn from scripture .

“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”( Christian’s )
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:9, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬
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The dragon doesn't go to war with the remnant of her seed till the two witnesses(two horns) begin to occupy Jerusalem.

Shilohsfoal · Jan 31, 2024

douggg said:

The saints are delivered at the great tribulation which lasts about 45 days.

The coming of the son of man is much like the days of Noah.It didn't take 3.5 years for the flood to wash the sinners away and it won't take 3.5 days for the fire to burn them away.The kingdom will be removed of all sinners quite quickly.

Shilohsfoal · Jan 31, 2024

douggg said:

Perhaps it would be better if you learned more about the persecution of the saints by the beast in the Olivet discourse.Maybe then you will realize the saints who do not worship the beast are persecuted before the great tribulation and not after.

douggg · Jan 31, 2024

Shilohsfoal said:

You don't know how to put together a timeline of events for the 7 year 70th week. The events of Revelation 11 and Revelation 12 take place during that 7 year 70th week.

Revelation 11:3, 1260 days and Revelation 12:6 , 1260 days - the first half of the 7 years.

Revelation 11:2, Revelation 13:5, the 42 month, Revelation 12:14 the time, times, half time - the second half of the 7 years.

Shilohsfoal · Jan 31, 2024

douggg said:

I don't need to make up stories to arrive to seven years.Theres no need .I can read the gospel,Daniel and revelation and I understand the two witnesses arrive in Israel 42 months before the Lord does.

Your biggest problem is you don't understand that once the beast from the bottomless pit arrives in Israel ,it is quickly destroyed .It doesn't take the word of God 3.5 years to destroy the beast.

Zech 14

14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

From the time the beast from the abyss and the two horns take Jerusalem in zech 14:2,the Lord arrives and fights against them and destroys them.It does not take the Lord 3.5 years to destroy them.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.

11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

At the sound of the seventh trump,Jerusalem will be safely inhabited.The beast from.the sea reigned the previous 42 months before the beast from.the abyss attacks Jerusalem and takes it. The beast from the abyss and the ten horns have three and a half days to celebrate their conquest before they are destroyed.

douggg · Jan 31, 2024

Shilohsfoal said:

Shilohsfoal, your scenario does not have 7 years. The time of the end prophecies in Daniel 12:11-12 regarding the abomination of desolation setup involves 1290 days and 1335 days. Both longer than 1260 days, 42 months.

Also the time of the end 2300 days involving the little horn in Daniel 8:13-19 is much longer that 1260 days, 42 months.

Because your scenario does not have 7 years to it, nothing can be properly fit together.

Shilohsfoal · Jan 31, 2024

douggg said:

There you go adding again when you shouldn't.
You'll never learn.

Everything fits together if you didn't add and add and add.

douggg · Jan 31, 2024

Shilohsfoal said:

Your scenario does not fit all the "time of the end" timeframes together. You can't fit 1290 days, 1335 days, 2300 days into 1260 days.

Also your scenario does not follow the sequence in Daniel 12...

1260 days...then the war in (the second heaven)......then Satan cast down to earth having a time, times, half time left.

Shilohsfoal · Jan 31, 2024

douggg said:

Like I just said.You will ever learn.Everytime you see a number you think you should add it to a list of numbers you have obtained from many books and chapters.If it were up to you there would never be a time of the end because you have never stoped adding all the numbers .

Let's make it real simple.

How long do you believe it will take the Lord to destroy the abyss beast and ten nations that attack and conquer Jerusalem?

Zechariah 14

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

How long do you believe it will take the Lord to defeat them?

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