Ukraine the bad guy?

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Gojira

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I think you've just become so familiar with Fascists that you've forgotten that Communists are hardly different.
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This is excellent, and I agree with this graphic. To say that political ideologies run in a circle, IMO, is silly. This is something Glenn Beck illustrated years ago, and ever since I've adopted this view.
 

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This is excellent, and I agree with this graphic. To say that political ideologies run in a circle, IMO, is silly. This is something Glenn Beck illustrated years ago, and ever since I've adopted this view.
I'm somewhere between Anarchist and the Founding Fathers. While I do concede that anarchy has its benefits, I also appreciate the republic that the Founding Fathers envisaged.
 
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If you say so.

My point is that there is a significant difference between politicians like AOC and the moderate part of the Democratic Party.

I am a Republican but I don’t belong to the MAGA cult.
There is no MAGA cult. That's an invention of the Leftist media, and you bought right into it. Congratulations.

It's a great motive to pull support from the only one defending the flippin' constitution with any kind of testicles. He's in their way, which is why he's facing 700 years in prison.
 

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There is no MAGA cult. That's an invention of the Leftist media, and you bought right into it. Congratulations.
Now you tell me, so I suppose I don't have to go to the airport to sell flowers anymore.
 
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Gojira

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I'm somewhere between Anarchist and the Founding Fathers. While I do concede that anarchy has its benefits, I also appreciate the republic that the Founding Fathers envisaged.
People don't seem to understand that fascism was a development from socialism. Hitler and Mussolini started off as socialists, but modified their ideologies later and became known as fascists. But, ultimately, both systems are collectivist and authoritarian, being run by a cult of personality on top of a god-state. Progressivism is just a pretty word for the same. For those doubting this, just read John Dewey or Frank Goodnow for starters.
 

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There is no MAGA cult.

EXACTLY!

If anything those that want to make America great are the MOST UNcultish people in the country!

So many believe the MSM, the Dems, and their lies instead of looking at what "MAGA" folks actually believe.

Which is we couldn't care one whit about WHO is promoting America, ONLY that they are, through our Constitution.
 
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EXACTLY!

If anything those that want to make America great are the MOST UNcultish people in the country!

So many believe the MSM, the Dems, and their lies instead of looking at what "MAGA" folks actually believe.

Which is we couldn't care one whit about WHO is promoting America, ONLY that they are, through our Constitution.
What kills me is, this belief about a MAGA cult has conservatives cutting their own throats, and the Left that promotes are the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. Do y'all remember videos of public school kids singing songs to Obama?? Or what Barbara Walters said about him, that "we all thought of him as a secular messiah"? Or what Jamie Foxx (spelling?) -- I believe it was this In Living Color actor -- who said that Obama was our "lord and savior"?!?!?

Has anyone seen anything like this from Trump supporters?
 

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What kills me is, this belief about a MAGA cult has conservatives cutting their own throats, and the Left that promotes are the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. Do y'all remember videos of public school kids singing songs to Obama?? Or what Barbara Walters said about him, that "we all thought of him as a secular messiah"? Or what Jamie Foxx (spelling?) -- I believe it was this In Living Color actor -- who said that Obama was our "lord and savior"?!?!?

Has anyone seen anything like this from Trump supporters?
It bothers you because you think it is your job to convince them. We are not salesmen, we are witnesses. A salesman is judged by how many buy his product, you don't judge a witness by how many people are convicted or exonerated. As long as you tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God you have a clear conscience. What each person does with the truth is between them and God, not your business.
 

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21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.

He overturns the money changers and then curses the fig tree and gives us the prophecy about telling this mountain to be removed and cast into the sea. I think this is what we see immediately preceding the rapture. The collapse of the dollar, or more precisely, the collapse of the world's reserve currency and then the populist revolt removing their governments and throwing them into the sea. We are seeing a 50% drop in the Chinese stock market (adjusted for inflation), and potentially 50% unemployment in China, and the collapse of the real estate developers, as well as massive layoffs taking place in the US with the number laid off in 2023 double that of 2022 and 2024 continuing this trend of layoffs increasing exponentially. We are also see a populist revolt from farmers in the EU and Truckers in the US. I think we could see the flipping of table of the money changers at any time. One prophecy said that when they start buying oil in another currency you will see the collapse of the US dollar. We saw that take place yesterday between UAE and China.
 

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If you say so.

My point is that there is a significant difference between politicians like AOC and the moderate part of the Democratic Party.

I am a Republican but I don’t belong to the MAGA cult.

From one Texan to another they have only dreamed of what it might be like to live in a place run by the far right like we have for the last 30 years in Texas. I don't think they will understand how close to communism it actually is unless they win and live it too. You cant explain it to them because of the photo cropped pictures of Texas and the exaggerated stories are just too effective, Abbott and the gang are some of the best Ive seen at it.
 

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Can you please specifically DEFINE what "far right" means to you?
Far Right -- Look at a globe at the Prime Meridian. Now look to the right, you will see Europe, that is socialist. Go further right and you see Russia and China, that is communist. Keep going way past the international date line and you come to the United States. That is "far right" of the prime meridian.

People who are focused on making America a great nation are "far right".

If you are simply a communist you are a lefty compared to the US, if you are a globalist wanting to make the UN the one world government then you are a far lefty of the US.

The irony is that when the Antichrist does set up his one world government and it turns into the most fascist dictator in history, then that will be so far right as to have gone all the way around the world and more from the Prime Meridian. But they'll sell it as slightly right of center.
 

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From one Texan to another they have only dreamed of what it might be like to live in a place run by the far right like we have for the last 30 years in Texas. I don't think they will understand how close to communism it actually is unless they win and live it too. You cant explain it to them because of the photo cropped pictures of Texas and the exaggerated stories are just too effective, Abbott and the gang are some of the best Ive seen at it.
Both are extreme natures and not really fit to run anything. Besides, they both have this weird tendency of trying to prohibit things they don’t like. I thought this was the land of the free.
 

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Your comments make me think you're a leftist. Like the chart shows, many Republicans today are way left of center.
Who made that chart? Maybe I’m just too farsighted to read the small print, but as of now it’s just some random thing on the internet written by some John or Jane Doe.
 

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I am a Republican but I don’t belong to the MAGA cult.
The sooner you cross over the better. The Neocon ideology sounded good in the aftermath of 9/11: but it didn't work, and it doesn't work now.

Ukraine is going to look like Afghanistan if we keep this up. A fifth of the land is gone; along with a huge chunk of the population- either dead or permanently relocated.


You're just making yourself look silly re-posting this story. The people that wrote this article can write a lot better than they can read.
 

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You're just making yourself look silly re-posting this story. The people that wrote this article can write a lot better than they can read.
It is always a good idea to explain why someone looks silly, rather than just stating it without offering any other explanation than “The people that wrote this article can write a lot better than they can read”. You basically said nothing.