Can believers place a curse on someone?

[MaryM]

Mathew chapter 21 verses 19 to 22.
Where Jesus cursed the fig tree then told His disciples they too could do things like that.
So did He mean in faith believing, a Christian could in theory curse someone to wither and die away?

If so, it means the power of Christ can be used to destroy life as well as to heal or restore life. I never have understood what the fig tree did wrong anyway!

 

[JerryHernandez]

Although some play with the demons and do some thing, a true christian can not.

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

Although some play with the demons and do some thing, a true christian can not.

There's two times in my life where God cursed someone.The first one you wouldn't believe so that's personal.
The second one was a witch who was a cop that escorted me to the hospital just because I hugged my sister and told her I loved her.
This is when I just became a christian but didn't receive the Holy Spirit yet till I got back home 2 weeks later.
I was just so happy God loved me and that he took all my pain away.
At the Hospital she made me sit in this room and she put a chair between the door and sat on it.I knew something was gonna happen.

She pulled out her phone and started doing something and looked up at me.
Then this thought entered my mind.it wasn't like a regular thought either.It was more like it was trying to convince me with force.
Suddenly I felt this weird tingling electric feeling start from my heart and slowly spread in my chest and arms.So I opened my bible and went to read certain verses for protection from my enemies and I could feel the tingling feeling reverse back and go away.

When that happen she looked angry and went back to her phone.And the same thing happen again.that went back and forth for hours.
Everytime it went away she would sigh all mad and start over again.
It was a spiritual battle, and my mind and even my body was getting exhausted but God would keep taking that away and filling me up with energy to keep going.

Finally after like 6 hours or so I thought to myself "ok God lets end this' and I found a scripture that prays for the enemy to fall into their own trap.As soon as I read that verse she just got up from that chair and left quick.She fell into her own trap.

 

[Dino246]

Unfortunately, a believer in Christ can place a curse on someone. Unfortunately, it's also quite common, though in the vast majority of cases it is not intended as a curse, may be inadvertent, and usually requires some form of cooperation by the "recipient".

The words we speak to a person may not be the Lord's truth for that person, and this can happen for many reasons. We may be careless, ignorant, distracted, or in some emotional upset at the time. Those "negative" words can simmer in a person's mind for hours, days, and even years, shaping their motivations and interactions with the world. The words "take root" more easily if the recipient has not been trained to sift and filter what they hear (which is the case with most young people, and many adults).

This is why it is important for Christian leaders to speak encouragement often, but only to speak direction when it comes from the Lord. Our ideas of what a person "should" do can mis-shape their lives.

 

[posthuman]

I never have understood what the fig tree did wrong anyway!

the fig tree is a symbol of the nation Israel, who had rejected their King, their God, and were about to crucify Him.

 

[posthuman]

the power of Christ can be used to destroy life as well as to heal or restore life.

compare -

Matthew 10:28​

And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.​

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the same Lord Who created all things is the Judge of all things, Christ.

 

[SomeDisciple]

I never have understood what the fig tree did wrong anyway!

It didn't have fruit when it was supposed to.
Of course this is not just Jesus being angry at a tree: it was a prophetic sign- it is tangent to the parable in Luke 13. God's people were not bearing fruit under the old covenant.

Where Jesus cursed the fig tree then told His disciples they too could do things like that.
So did He mean in faith believing, a Christian could in theory curse someone to wither and die away?

Of course the idea is not that we can curse someone at our own whim-
With the tongue we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God’s likeness. Out of the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, this should not be! Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? My brothers, can a fig tree grow olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water. But, yes.

 

[MaryM]

There's two times in my life where God cursed someone.The first one you wouldn't believe so that's personal.
The second one was a witch who was a cop that escorted me to the hospital just because I hugged my sister and told her I loved her.
This is when I just became a christian but didn't receive the Holy Spirit yet till I got back home 2 weeks later.
I was just so happy God loved me and that he took all my pain away.
At the Hospital she made me sit in this room and she put a chair between the door and sat on it.I knew something was gonna happen.

She pulled out her phone and started doing something and looked up at me.
Then this thought entered my mind.it wasn't like a regular thought either.It was more like it was trying to convince me with force.
Suddenly I felt this weird tingling electric feeling start from my heart and slowly spread in my chest and arms.So I opened my bible and went to read certain verses for protection from my enemies and I could feel the tingling feeling reverse back and go away.

When that happen she looked angry and went back to her phone.And the same thing happen again.that went back and forth for hours.
Everytime it went away she would sigh all mad and start over again.
It was a spiritual battle, and my mind and even my body was getting exhausted but God would keep taking that away and filling me up with energy to keep going.

Finally after like 6 hours or so I thought to myself "ok God lets end this' and I found a scripture that prays for the enemy to fall into their own trap.As soon as I read that verse she just got up from that chair and left quick.She fell into her own trap.

I believe you, spiritual battles are happening. I always pray to Jesus when I feel threatened.

 

[MaryM]

Unfortunately, a believer in Christ can place a curse on someone. Unfortunately, it's also quite common, though in the vast majority of cases it is not intended as a curse, may be inadvertent, and usually requires some form of cooperation by the "recipient".

The words we speak to a person may not be the Lord's truth for that person, and this can happen for many reasons. We may be careless, ignorant, distracted, or in some emotional upset at the time. Those "negative" words can simmer in a person's mind for hours, days, and even years, shaping their motivations and interactions with the world. The words "take root" more easily if the recipient has not been trained to sift and filter what they hear (which is the case with most young people, and many adults).

This is why it is important for Christian leaders to speak encouragement often, but only to speak direction when it comes from the Lord. Our ideas of what a person "should" do can mis-shape their lives.

Words have power. After all, words start wars or can trigger peace.

 

[Karlon]

Mathew chapter 21 verses 19 to 22.
Where Jesus cursed the fig tree then told His disciples they too could do things like that.
So did He mean in faith believing, a Christian could in theory curse someone to wither and die away?

If so, it means the power of Christ can be used to destroy life as well as to heal or restore life. I never have understood what the fig tree did wrong anyway!

i never heard of a Christian cursing someone & i never heard a Christian thinking of doing it. that's evil! maybe a backslidden Christian who's down & depressed but even he or she will tune into his or her senses & refrain from acting it out. the Holy Spirit will convict you immediately on that. my answer is no. that's having 1 foot in Christianity & 1 foot in hell. you can't do both. btw, MaryM, forsake that thought immediately with the help of Jesus. never think that thought again, it's highly dangerous.

 

[MaryM]

i never heard of a Christian cursing someone & i never heard a Christian thinking of doing it. that's evil! maybe a backslidden Christian who's down & depressed but even he or she will tune into his or her senses & refrain from acting it out. the Holy Spirit will convict you immediately on that. my answer is no. that's having 1 foot in Christianity & 1 foot in hell. you can't do both. btw, MaryM, forsake that thought immediately with the help of Jesus. never think that thought again, it's highly dangerous.

I am only analysing scripture for meaning. It seemed to me that Jesus was irritated by the fig tree and withered it just because He could.

 

[Niki7]

i never heard of a Christian cursing someone & i never heard a Christian thinking of doing it. that's evil! maybe a backslidden Christian who's down & depressed but even he or she will tune into his or her senses & refrain from acting it out. the Holy Spirit will convict you immediately on that. my answer is no. that's having 1 foot in Christianity & 1 foot in hell. you can't do both. btw, MaryM, forsake that thought immediately with the help of Jesus. never think that thought again, it's highly dangerous.

we are told to be careful of our words

you are giving bad advice. it does not matter that you have not personally known of a Christian cursing others...some do it on purpose thinking they are doing the Lords' work and others do it because they are careless of the words they speak

Christians need to wake up and understand what is going on in their lives and not just dismiss something because they have not personally experienced it or perhaps may even be afraid

 

[Karlon]

we are told to be careful of our words

you are giving bad advice. it does not matter that you have not personally known of a Christian cursing others...some do it on purpose thinking they are doing the Lords' work and others do it because they are careless of the words they speak

Christians need to wake up and understand what is going on in their lives and not just dismiss something because they have not personally experienced it or perhaps may even be afraid

it seems you're responding to the wrong contact. what bad advice? i said NO, that's my answer. the law of averages tells anyone that somewhere in this world, in the past, present & future, that someone thought of doing or did it. i don't believe a Christian can cast curses. then that person is not Christian! explain yourself in detail.

 

[Niki7]

it seems you're responding to the wrong contact. what bad advice? i said NO, that's my answer. the law of averages tells anyone that somewhere in this world, in the past, present & future, that someone thought of doing or did it. i don't believe a Christian can cast curses. then that person is not Christian! explain yourself in detail.

My advice was sound

it does not matter what you believe if the Bible indicates otherwise

was Peter a follower of Christ? of course he was yet at one point Jesus referred to the fact the words from Peter's lips were not from God, but rather from the devil

perhaps the law of averages is not familiar with scripture

but as always, you are free to believe whatever you want. the only thing that I am alarmed about, is when people pass on advice that is not sound and then defend it as you are doing

did you read post #4?. a good explanation about this topic is written in that post

perhaps you might try explaining why you think a Christian cannot do the devil's work for him. I assure you that is happening more and more frequently in this world and you or anyone trying to say then that person is not a Christian does nothing to disavow that fact

remember Peter

 

[p_rehbein]

According to Scripture, Gods people are forbidden from engaging in such......

Deuteronomy, Chapter 18:

9When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

12For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

13Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Mathew chapter 21 verses 19 to 22.
Where Jesus cursed the fig tree then told His disciples they too could do things like that.
So did He mean in faith believing, a Christian could in theory curse someone to wither and die away?

If so, it means the power of Christ can be used to destroy life as well as to heal or restore life. I never have understood what the fig tree did wrong anyway!

The fig tree had no fruit on it , the purpose of a fig tree taking up soil is to produce fruit

“For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:

but that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭6:7-8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Karlon]

My advice was sound

it does not matter what you believe if the Bible indicates otherwise

was Peter a follower of Christ? of course he was yet at one point Jesus referred to the fact the words from Peter's lips were not from God, but rather from the devil

perhaps the law of averages is not familiar with scripture

but as always, you are free to believe whatever you want. the only thing that I am alarmed about, is when people pass on advice that is not sound and then defend it as you are doing

did you read post #4?. a good explanation about this topic is written in that post

perhaps you might try explaining why you think a Christian cannot do the devil's work for him. I assure you that is happening more and more frequently in this world and you or anyone trying to say then that person is not a Christian does nothing to disavow that fact

remember Peter

what advice? where? you are missing something. i never told anyone to cast a curse. i think you are reading between the lines & inserting something you think i said. peace to you. final statement: casting a curse is not Christian behavior. if you believe Christians can do that, then what else are they capable of doing? what other evil acts can they perform? how many evil acts they perform? where do you draw the line?

 

[Karlon]

According to Scripture, Gods people are forbidden from engaging in such......

Deuteronomy, Chapter 18:

9When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee,thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times,or an enchanter, or a witch,
11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

12For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

13Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.

Proverbs 28:9, James 2:10, John 9:31

 

[Nehemiah6]

I am only analysing scripture for meaning. It seemed to me that Jesus was irritated by the fig tree and withered it just because He could.

Actually Christ was teaching His apostles a lesson in total faith and prayer: Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Actually Christ was teaching His apostles a lesson in total faith and prayer: Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

Indeed he also taught

“If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love;

even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.”
‭‭John‬ ‭15:7-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬