the Sabbath
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Yup- and that broke a whole lot of commandments- like the command not to have other gods before Him- which they broke when they choose to listen to the "other spirit" over God. Eve also coveted the tree of evil because said it looked pleasing to the eye Genesis 3:6 and stole what didn't belong to her. They broke way more than one command when they disobeyed God.
No other of the 10 commands had been given... you said yourself:
Without law there is no transgression Romans 4:15
Are you saying someone can be in Christ, sin, and be out of Christ?
The latter part of Romans 8 says this is not possible.
Do you sin?
Breaking the least of these commandments quoting right from the Ten covers them all. Mat 5:19-30
The one commandment God said Remember and is holy and blessed by God is hardly a least commanemnt- but even if we think it is Jesus said to keep.
God said Remember Exo 20:8-11 man says to forget.
Jesus said to live by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Mat 4:4 My faith is in Him and His every Word.
We can't be breaking God's law and be in Christ- Paul says that's the way the carnal mind thinks Romans 8:7-8 and I believe in the teachings of Jesus who taught and lived out keeping God's commandments including the Sabbath and is our example to follow.
Who says forget the Sabbath? Some see Jesus as their Sabbath rest. Big difference.
From Hebrews 10:1, 4, and 1 Corinthians 5:7
Jesus said He is Lord of the Sabbath Mark 2:28 i.e. Creator, not that He is the Sabbath- i.e. creation. I believe Him over man and no scripture says Jesus became a day or a commanemnt. . Take care.
I believe God over you and no NT Scripture gives Sabbath-keeping as a command.
Matthew 11:28-30
We all sin and fall short of the glory of God. Our very best is as filthy rags. It is through the blood of Christ that we can be saved. The Ten commandments tell us to remember the Sabbath and keep it holly, not to choose any day we want. He only blessed, sanctified and hallowed one day of the week and that day is the 7th day of the week the true Sabbath. God knows you better than you know yourself, He knows your heart.
We can't be separated from the love of God which is IN CHRIST Jesus our Lord...Romans 8:39. So either Romans 8:39 doesn't mean as I understand it, or Romans 8:1-8 doesn't comport with your understanding.
So...I'll ask again. Can someone be in Christ one moment, sin, and then be out of Christ? And do you sin?
It says Jesus gives rest, not that He is rest. Big difference.I believe God over you and no NT Scripture gives Sabbath-keeping as a command.
Matthew 11:28-30
Scripture also tells us that those who enter His rest ALSO cease from their works as God did from His, on the seventh day.
Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.
God rested on the seventh day and man was made in His image to follow Him, not to do our own thing.
Heb 4:4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: (direct reference to the 4th commandment Exo 20:8-11)“And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”
Jesus came to save the world from sin, not to condemn, but there is a condemnation that will separate us from God.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
John makes the clear distinction that believing in Jesus is related to our obedience to Him. Those who choose to do evil (sin) does not come to the light because their deeds are evil, but we are called to come to the truth (light) so our deeds can be exposed. This is what the Ten Commandments does- it shows us our sin just like a mirror. When we bury our sins (stay in darkness) we don't confess or forsake them and therefore God can't give us His mercy and grace and give us the power to help overcome. Proverbs 28:13 Those who seek God want to come to the Truth so Jesus can help us overcome our sins. Our salvation is from sin Mat 1:21 not in sin.
Jesus in His own Words tells us that it's more than just believing...
Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord [believer],’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Believing is a great first step but as our love for Jesus grows, we should want to obey Him through faith and love. Rom 3:31 1 John 5:3 John 14:15 Exo 20:6
We rest in Him. From what? Works to attain salvation, for we are saved by grace through faith in His shed righteous blood.
Exactly. Though God is still working, and Jesus did work on the Sabbath also.
We are saved by grace through faith but faith does not void the law- it establishes it. Romans 3:31
Sure. And Paul also said circumcision is nothing. So while you and your cronies like
to pretend nothing has changed, clearly much has. Circumcision was part of the law.
That's all great stuff, and an excellent answer to questions I never asked. Can you actually answer the questions I am asking?
...do you still sin?
...if someone is in Christ and commits a sin, would they no longer be in Christ?
I believe God over you and no NT Scripture gives Sabbath-keeping as a command.
Matthew 11:28-30
you need to look up the meaning of the verse. Lord of the Sabbath Mark 2:28 It means that Jesus is over the Sabbath it does not emply that you can change the day. Jesus is stating that he is Lord over, the Sabbath, the 7th day of the week, it is his. You say god never gave Sabbath keeping as a command in the NT. The Commandment is not explicitly repeated like the other 9 are, but at the same time there is nowhere in the NT saying it has been done away with. the evidence would imply otherwise, If the Commandment was done away with the Sabbath would not be mentioned and observed 60 times in the NT. Show just one instance where Jesus went and preached in a synagogue other than the 7th day Sabbath.
is the commandment honor the Sabbath replaced with honor the lord
Just wondering.
In the lord we find rest, so I just wondered if this is the same thing or at least could be
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