Vivek Ramaswamy Endorses Trump

[ZNP]

Your posts just seemed inconsistent to me. They still do, although this last one may lend some clarity to things. Time will tell

From my perspective we have people on this forum who support the political process as a way to make things better. For them, if you point out the sins of Biden it means you are really campaigning for Trump. If you point out the hypocrisy of Desantis you are campaigning for Trump. If you point out that Haley is simply Hillary Clinton dressed up as a republican you are for Trump. If you point out that a thread was created seeking ways to discredit Trump in the eyes of Christians as a way to help the Democrats win, then you are supporting Trump. Why? Because for them either you are supporting Biden or Trump.

For me I am shining a light on how corrupt and evil the kingdom of darkness is. Do you realize all these republicans who won elections to the House of Representatives, they all ran on a promise to reign in spending, they all condemned Pelosi's spending and the policies of the democrats. Yet they continually pass a CR which is simply to continue Pelosi's budget without any changes at all. This last time with Democrat mayors and governors crying about immigration they could have demanded action on closing the border otherwise they won't pass the budget. But they didn't. They are all liars. Maybe not the 100+ who voted against the CR, but the majority of Republicans are all liars.

If you think that there is salvation in the political process you are deceiving yourself.

However, there is retribution in the political process. We see that all the time, and that is why so many are terrified of Trump. This is how organized crime works, they kill each other. They don't go after "civilians" you are the schmucks who pay taxes and support this organized crime families. Trump is coming for them, not for you. He is going to bring retribution to them. That is how God often works. He brings a rod of discipline from Pharoah, or Babylon or Assyria, etc.

 

[ZNP]

But, for the sake of argument, say we got it all wrong. Fine. It still makes no sense for you to give a flying hoot what happens here in the States. If we're predicted to be completely wiped from the earth, the only thing that matters is evangelizing as much as possible and preparing for this inevitable destruction.

I see the country being destroyed as the Titanic sinking. I see telling people concerning what is coming as telling them to get on the lifeboat. There is no reason to go down with the Ship when Jesus is present and able to save.

I see the deplorables as those staying in the belly of the ship where Dicaprio was and learning about the ship sinking first. I see the MSM as the band that kept on playing as though there was no problem. I see the elites as those who wouldn't let the poor on the lifeboats and locked them below.

 

[Gojira]

If you think that there is salvation in the political process you are deceiving yourself.

Never ever ever ever said that. What I have been saying, or at least trying to say, is that we must not give up. Force these butt-head, hypocritical "conservatives" to act like a genuine opposition party, with the Framers' philosophies in mind.

However, there is retribution in the political process. We see that all the time, and that is why so many are terrified of Trump. This is how organized crime works, they kill each other. They don't go after "civilians" you are the schmucks who pay taxes and support this organized crime families. Trump is coming for them, not for you. He is going to bring retribution to them. That is how God often works. He brings a rod of discipline from Pharoah, or Babylon or Assyria, etc.

Sounds like a Trump endorsement if ever I heard one.

 

[Gojira]

I see the country being destroyed as the Titanic sinking. I see telling people concerning what is coming as telling them to get on the lifeboat. There is no reason to go down with the Ship when Jesus is present and able to save.

I see the deplorables as those staying in the belly of the ship where Dicaprio was and learning about the ship sinking first. I see the MSM as the band that kept on playing as though there was no problem.

Ugh.. if you say so.

 

[ZNP]

Never ever ever ever said that. What I have been saying, or at least trying to say, is that we must not give up.

Then why do you have an issue with me not giving up?

Force these butt-head, hypocritical "conservatives" to act like a genuine opposition party, with the Framers' philosophies in mind.

So tell me what these "butt-head" hypocritical conservatives need to do for you to realize that you will never force them to be a genuine opposition party. You didn't pay for their campaign, they know it, you know it. They know if they go against their handlers they will be out on the street. What do they have to do for you to see?

Reminds me of that blind man that Jesus had to spit in his face to see that the rulers and leaders were robbing him blind.

Why do you continue to let them spit in your face?

 

[Gojira]

Then why do you have an issue with me not giving up?



So tell me what these "butt-head" hypocritical conservatives need to do for you to realize that you will never force them to be a genuine opposition party. You didn't pay for their campaign, they know it, you know it. They know if they go against their handlers they will be out on the street. What do they have to do for you to see?

Reminds me of that blind man that Jesus had to spit in his face to see that the rulers and leaders were robbing him blind.

Why do you continue to let them spit in your face?

*sigh*

I have no issue with any Christian not giving up. I have issue with the inconsistency I see in your words. That that is not clear still makes me think that maybe I should just drop this and move on.

I can do nothing to change their minds. But, there are influential pundits who are shining a light on their deeds, or lack thereof. I try to financially support these pundits as money and time permit. That and prayer are what I am doing. I've also put up a vlog, but admittedly it sucks (it's boring, and I have maybe 15 subscribers LOL).

Because I cannot single-handedly do anything does not mean I ought to do nothing. I've been given a small hand, so I'll do with that small hand what I can. If every Christian in the US did that -- instead of saying politics was not for the Christian to be involved in (not including you in this) -- we might have a better situation and maybe, a real opposition party. Maybe.

 

[ZNP]

Because I cannot single-handedly do anything does not mean I ought to do nothing. I've been given a small hand, so I'll do with that small hand what I can. If every Christian in the US did that -- instead of saying politics was not for the Christian to be involved in (not including you in this) -- we might have a better situation and maybe, a real opposition party. Maybe.

We have been given the winning hand. we are witnesses of Jesus victory.

 

[Gojira]

 

[Gojira]

We have been given the winning hand. we are witnesses of Jesus victory.

Yes, but that is not what we were discussing. Or, not what *I* was discussing LOL

Yep, time to move on.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

I noticed the title of my thread and before clicking here I said to myself, "I don't trust any politicians, not even Trump or Swamy. "
Then I read your statement. 😆
That said, I'd rather these guys in office than what's going on now.

One Is too old(Biden) and one Is too crazy and dangerous to democracy(Trump)

 

[ZNP]

One Is too old(Biden) and one Is too crazy and dangerous to democracy(Trump)

You shall eat the fruit of your own way

Proverbs 1:30 They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof. 31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.

When the US suffers tribulation, don't blame God. Be honest, consider carefully, and you will realize that the US is eating the fruit of your ways, you are filled with your own devices, they despised all of God's reproof, they refused His counsel.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

From my perspective we have people on this forum who support the political process as a way to make things better. For them, if you point out the sins of Biden it means you are really campaigning for Trump. If you point out the hypocrisy of Desantis you are campaigning for Trump. If you point out that Haley is simply Hillary Clinton dressed up as a republican you are for Trump. If you point out that a thread was created seeking ways to discredit Trump in the eyes of Christians as a way to help the Democrats win, then you are supporting Trump. Why? Because for them either you are supporting Biden or Trump.

For me I am shining a light on how corrupt and evil the kingdom of darkness is. Do you realize all these republicans who won elections to the House of Representatives, they all ran on a promise to reign in spending, they all condemned Pelosi's spending and the policies of the democrats. Yet they continually pass a CR which is simply to continue Pelosi's budget without any changes at all. This last time with Democrat mayors and governors crying about immigration they could have demanded action on closing the border otherwise they won't pass the budget. But they didn't. They are all liars. Maybe not the 100+ who voted against the CR, but the majority of Republicans are all liars.

If you think that there is salvation in the political process you are deceiving yourself.

However, there is retribution in the political process. We see that all the time, and that is why so many are terrified of Trump. This is how organized crime works, they kill each other. They don't go after "civilians" you are the schmucks who pay taxes and support this organized crime families. Trump is coming for them, not for you. He is going to bring retribution to them. That is how God often works. He brings a rod of discipline from Pharoah, or Babylon or Assyria, etc.

It's called the Left/. Right Paradigm.
The social scientists who work for the globalists use this method to manipulate every nation and most people groups.
Those of us who serve the Lord are to step back and look at the powers that be from a Biblical perspective.

 

[ZNP]

It's called the Left/. Right Paradigm.
The social scientists who work for the globalists use this method to manipulate every nation and most people groups.
Those of us who serve the Lord are to step back and look at the powers that be from a Biblical perspective.

I call it blindness. If you don't see you are being manipulated by this point then you must be blind.

They aren't angry because they think you will force the politicians to do what they said they would do. They are angry because you are exposing the lie.

I once ran across a rattlesnake in Nevada. It was hiding in plain sight but blended in real well with the surroundings. When it became clear we could see him then he got mad, spitting mad.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I call it blindness. If you don't see you are being manipulated by this point then you must be blind.

They aren't angry because they think you will force the politicians to do what they said they would do. They are angry because you are exposing the lie.

I once ran across a rattlesnake in Nevada. It was hiding in plain sight but blended in real well with the surroundings. When it became clear we could see him then he got mad, spitting mad.

We can sure learn a lot about the nature of mankind from the animal kingdom, can't we?
I love those lessons.

You remind me of the very large Timber Rattler that I found while snake hunting with a buddy one morning. I walked past it along a rocky pond shore several times and could not see it until I nearly stepped on it and it let me know by rattling. Hard to believe how camo they are made.
He left me alone though. After I caught it, my buddy took it home for a couple months, fed it well and we released it where we found it. Good times. Anyhow, I liked the company of venomous reptiles better than most of the politicians that I've had dinner with. 😄

 

[Gojira]

It's called the Left/. Right Paradigm.
The social scientists who work for the globalists use this method to manipulate every nation and most people groups.
Those of us who serve the Lord are to step back and look at the powers that be from a Biblical perspective.

And from a Biblical perspective, the Right is right, and the Left is wrong -- ideologically speaking. Not praising the right-wing politicians themselves, though even there, there are good exceptions.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Vivek Ramaswamy Endorses Trump At New Hampshire Rally

He probably wants to be a part of Trumps administration.Morals aren’t as Important to him as power.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

He probably wants to be a part of Trumps administration.Morals aren’t as Important to him as power.

I've heard that about the guy before he found religion or something and changed his personal platform. I think you may be right. That lust for power is in a lot of public serpents, I mean public servants.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

And from a Biblical perspective, the Right is right, and the Left is wrong -- ideologically speaking. Not praising the right-wing politicians themselves, though even there, there are good exceptions.

That's usually true. I studied the history of the 80's and noticed that the globalists infiltrated the D's and the Rs. They employed what was coined by German philosopher Hegel, a Dialectic.
They establish a problem they create behind the scenes. Then the globalists direct the native of the public's reaction. The solution is then implemented, or as Bill Gates called it, "the Final Solution".

 

[Gojira]

That's usually true. I studied the history of the 80's and noticed that the globalists infiltrated the D's and the Rs. They employed what was coined by German philosopher Hegel, a Dialectic.
They establish a problem they create behind the scenes. Then the globalists direct the native of the public's reaction. The solution is then implemented, or as Bill Gates called it, "the Final Solution".

And still, I will support whoever it is who speaks for America's founding ideals. Obviously if I have multiple choices and one seems more genuine than the other, I'll support the latter. But... I refuse to give up on the US.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

And still, I will support whoever it is who speaks for America's founding ideals. Obviously if I have multiple choices and one seems more genuine than the other, I'll support the latter. But... I refuse to give up on the US.

If you’re voting for Donald Trump then you are agreeing with giving up on the UNITED States,😂Are your words seious right now.😂