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Already been done to death here.
lol bob I know how you feel.

Hopefully we can chat in a good mood soon

I'm sorry for giving you the hump my camel friend 😊

Im just sick to death of religious wars buddy not your fault
 
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False. Islam elevates Muhammed above Jesus. Their profession of faith (the
shahada, the most fundamental expression of Islamic beliefs), makes this plain.
False. Islam elevates Muhammed above Jesus. Their profession of faith (the
shahada, the most fundamental expression of Islamic beliefs), makes this plain.
I believe there's different sects of islam.

So I'm not sure but some have Jesus as the highest prophet according to wiki
 
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Lol magenta I believe some Christians hold Jesus as the highest prophet too
 

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Bob, i've known you for a while sir and i know you're a big fan of vanilla chocolate ice cream but how can you say this?
Unless you want to get technical about His resurrected body and call it a Spiritual Body maybe?
Because He ate food AND went through walls.
So sure, technically His "old" human body died after crucifixion and He was resurrected with a new body WITH the marks of the crucifixion on his body.
So since this is a bit of a mystery on how God defies the laws of physics then maybe it'd be best to say that Jesus is not dead physically.
Just my 2 cents.
Yes i read that too and was shocked that a Christian would say that Jesus is physically dead.. I think that is Gnosticism if i am correct.. Jesus was raised in His body and lives forever more in a body.. He is not some disembodied spirit floating around like some ghostly mist.. Yes Jesus has an eternal physical body now but it is still a physical body..
 

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Can anything draw the two giants of religion together and form a one-world religion?

Catholic Catechism pages 242-243, we read, “Mary the model of the Church: There is a close relationship between Mary’s spiritual motherhood and the motherhood of the Church. She is the pattern for all whose task in the Church is to assist in Jesus saving work. Every Pope, bishop, priest, deacon, religious, and lay person can look to Mary as the exemplar of fidelity to his or her special vocation of mediating salvation.”

Mohammad had a daughter whose name was Fatima. Muslims consider her to be a counterpart to Mary. Mary is Islam’s most revered woman, and Fatima is a close second. Fatima had been raised a Muslim but converted to Christianity. The Vatican claimed this was a sign, a miracle from God directed toward Christians worldwide.

Fatima means ‘The Shining One.’ In Portugal, a town named after her is dubbed as such for the namesake of Fatima Zahra.

On three separate occasions, three young children, Lucia Santos, and her two cousins, reported having seen an angel’s apparitions in the Ourem region of Portugal. These sightings continued until May 13, 1917. They claim to have witnessed the apparition of the Virgin Mary. Roman Catholics worldwide began praying their devotion to the town of Fatima. This apparition of the Virgin Mary was a significant public relations event between the Vatican and Mecca.

E-lo-him is how the Hebrews pronounce God’s name. Some believe the root word has been lost in Hebrew and currently exists only in Arabic as A-la-ha. Two of the oldest versions of the Bible, the Samaritan and Chaldean versions, retain the noun in its original form, A-la-him. The closeness of names alone could bring Islam and the Catholic Church to some mutual agreement.

Another possible connection is that Abraham plays a prominent role in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Muslims believe Abraham fulfilled all the commandments and trials and that Allah nurtured him throughout his lifetime. All three religions understand Abraham to be the father of both the Jews and the Arab nations. Jews by way of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the Arabs, by way of Abraham, Ishmael, and Esau.”

The third reason is that Isa is the Arabic name for Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam but is not thought to be God. The Antichrist and Isa play essential roles in end-time prophecy. Islam’s Jesus is to usher in Islam as the world’s religion, and Islam’s Madi is to appear before Jesus.

Mahdi is the divinely guided One who is to establish the ideal Islamic state and fulfill the divine law. Then, Isa or their Jesus will come, and the last judgments will follow him. Islam is expecting their Mahdi soon, the twelfth Imam.

Will the Vatican and Islam come to some compromise? All they need is a trigger.
One religion means compromise. God's Truth Psa 119:151 does not compromise. Rev 14:12 Rev 22:14
 

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One religion means compromise. God's Truth Psa 119:151 does not compromise. Rev 14:12 Rev 22:14
I believe the following pretty much settles the matter.

2 Corinthians 6:14-15, "Be you not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship has righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion has light with darkness?

Verse 16, "And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? for you are the temple of the living god; as God has said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Wherefore come out from among them, and be you separate, said the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you."
 

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I believe the following pretty much settles the matter.

2 Corinthians 6:14-15, "Be you not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship has righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion has light with darkness?

Verse 16, "And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? for you are the temple of the living god; as God has said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Wherefore come out from among them, and be you separate, said the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you."
We are to live by every Word and scripture does not delete scripture.
 

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False. Islam elevates Muhammed above Jesus.
TRUE statement!!!! And worse yet, ISLAM claims that JESUS NEVER DIED ON THE CROSS, which, of course eliminates any chance for a devoted Muslim victim to be Born again, and see Heaven when they die.
 

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I believe there's different sects of islam.

So I'm not sure but some have Jesus as the highest prophet according to wiki
But since they teach that JESUS NEVER WAS CRUCIFIED, it's all for nothing. being a "High Profit" doesn't mean SPIT.
 
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But since they teach that JESUS NEVER WAS CRUCIFIED, it's all for nothing. being a "High Profit" doesn't mean SPIT.
hey bob nice to see you how's the weather been today buddy.

It's been windy here

Just a reminder spitting is rude and swallowing is polite 😋

Obviously hard to do when your ranting I know.
 

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So I'm not sure but some have Jesus as the highest prophet according to wiki
But not God, or the Son of God. Here is what is in the Koran (Sura 5:116-117):

116. And Allah will say, “O Jesus son of Mary, did you say to the people, `Take me and my mother as gods rather than Allah?'“ He will say, “Glory be to You! It is not for me to say what I have no right to. Had I said it, You would have known it. You know what is in my soul, and I do not know what is in Your soul. You are the Knower of the hidden.
117. I only told them what You commanded me: that you shall worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them while I was among them; but when You took me to Yourself, You became the Watcher over them—You are Witness over everything.


Of course Christ never said anything about worshipping His mother (so another lie in the Koran). But He accepted the worship of others, and Thomas declared to Him "My Lord and My God".
 
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But not God, or the Son of God. Here is what is in the Koran (Sura 5:116-117):

116. And Allah will say, “O Jesus son of Mary, did you say to the people, `Take me and my mother as gods rather than Allah?'“ He will say, “Glory be to You! It is not for me to say what I have no right to. Had I said it, You would have known it. You know what is in my soul, and I do not know what is in Your soul. You are the Knower of the hidden.
117. I only told them what You commanded me: that you shall worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them while I was among them; but when You took me to Yourself, You became the Watcher over them—You are Witness over everything.


Of course Christ never said anything about worshipping His mother (so another lie in the Koran). But He accepted the worship of others, and Thomas declared to Him "My Lord and My God".
can't help you sorry but have nice day anyway 😊
 

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hey bob nice to see you how's the weather been today buddy.

It's been windy here

Just a reminder spitting is rude and swallowing is polite 😋

Obviously hard to do when your ranting I know.
Cold - but not unusually cold for this time of year in Dallas - it'll be freezing rain later on today for the next three days apparently. Texas drivers tent to PANIC when the roads get slippery. fortunately I don't have to use any freeways to get to work. But since I moved here from Michigan, winter driving isn't an issue. 1/2" of snow will throw Dallas into mass confusion.

ISLAM claims that Isa IS NOT God's only begotten son - just "another prophet". it does accept Miriam as His Mother. and Jesus (Isa) was not crucified, consequently no "Sin Offering" (Isa 53-10) was ever made. OF course in ISLAM there's no such thing as a "Savior" anyway. And everybody has to earn their own salvation - ONE way is by murdering infidels.

In my housing development, the next block North seems to be mostly Muslim owned, so I'm glad that ISLAM is still WEAK, and in their phony "butter wouldn't melt in our mouths" mode. My Grand kids may not be as fortunate in another decade or so.

But regardless, ISLAMICS are DOOMED by their religion to HELL for rejecting Jesus as their Savior.
 
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Cold - but not unusually cold for this time of year in Dallas - it'll be freezing rain later on today for the next three days apparently. Texas drivers tent to PANIC when the roads get slippery. fortunately I don't have to use any freeways to get to work. But since I moved here from Michigan, winter driving isn't an issue. 1/2" of snow will throw Dallas into mass confusion.

ISLAM claims that Isa IS NOT God's only begotten son - just "another prophet". it does accept Miriam as His Mother. and Jesus (Isa) was not crucified, consequently no "Sin Offering" (Isa 53-10) was ever made. OF course in ISLAM there's no such thing as a "Savior" anyway. And everybody has to earn their own salvation - ONE way is by murdering infidels.

In my housing development, the next block North seems to be mostly Muslim owned, so I'm glad that ISLAM is still WEAK, and in their phony "butter wouldn't melt in our mouths" mode. My Grand kids may not be as fortunate in another decade or so.

But regardless, ISLAMICS are DOOMED by their religion to HELL for rejecting Jesus as their Savior.
we have just got hit my 80 mph winds right now set to last all night.

I had 3 x 100 foot trees in my garden last year that where rotten inside, so I cut them down myself. But I had to cut them of all by myself because nobody would do it because they posed to much threat to surroundings.

So I had to climb up the trees and cut them down branch by branch.

Just as well, as they would have probably flattened my house by now. We have had 8 storms in 8 weeks like this. They where monsters and I had to climb all the way to he tops with my chain saw.

But I did it lol.


You know I read in some sects of islam some accept Mary as having a virgin birth to Jesus and some don't see Mary as a virgin.

But don't you get that argument with just about everyone 🤔

But to be honest bob im sure God will take care of things.

I'm just losing interest in this matter because no matter what you say the war on religion will continue.

Because you can't talk about Muslim religion because people have islam phobia

And all wars will continue,

my argument has been a one world religion of Zionism exists

Anyhow peace to you bob

Chow chow friend
 
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Pat Condell - Islamophobia
depends how you view islamic phobia really.

His views are just one reason

I would say islamic phobia Is when people start talking about all the bad things Islam does.
 

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depends how you view islamic phobia really.

His views are just one reason

I would say islamic phobia Is when people start talking about all the bad things Islam does.
You do have a tendency to call things what they are not.