TEMPLE......TO BE OR NOT TO BE....THAT IS MY QUESTION!!!!!

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Cameron143

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Your "It's all good" meme won't cut it when 70lb hailstones are falling on your cranium and demon armies are surging across the shire.

Given those inevitable circumstances, I suspect those who were foolish enough to believe that meme you are propagating will live to regret it.
Do you deny the verse?
And none of those things will ever happen to me. I'm not under judgment. I'm living under the terms of the covenant that applies to me. And prophecy deals largely with 1st century Israel. It is their judgment that is in view.

Questions: when did spiritual Israel get judged? When did not all of Israel is Israel become true? When were Israel's promises not coming through Messiah? Which promise given to Abraham isn't fulfilled in Christ? Name one OT believer who got saved differently than described in Ephesians 2:8-9?
 
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How is Jesus ruling now? Why don't you believe the end of the age was the end of the old covenant, culminating in the destruction of the temple?
the truth is bro salvation will never come to the whole world, and evil will grow and defile Gods kingdom all over the world.

The governments will allow it to happen.

The lord returns as the lion of Juda to end it.
 

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the truth is bro salvation will never come to the whole world, and evil will grow and defile Gods kingdom all over the world.

The governments will allow it to happen.

The lord returns as the lion of Juda to end it.
Sure, the lion depicts Jesus as King. But He's not an oppressive ruler. And despite what most people believe, the kingdoms of this world will become the kingdoms of God and Christ. And it won't be force that compels this; it will be the love of God. Evil doesn't overcome evil; love does. The gospel is what overcomes the world now and will continue to.
 
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Sure, the lion depicts Jesus as King. But He's not an oppressive ruler. And despite what most people believe, the kingdoms of this world will become the kingdoms of God and Christ. And it won't be force that compels this; it will be the love of God. Evil doesn't overcome evil; love does. The gospel is what overcomes the world now and will continue to.
In an ideal world Cameron yes but this world is far from ideal bro.

Evil can not live in Gods world for ever bro.

Where all on borrowed time.

The prophecy is the lord returns as the lion bro.

The lord has the authority to take life and give life.

But he takes no pleasure in sending people to hell. but there will come that day when evil comes to a head on earth

The fathers nature is kind to us at the moment but one of his natures is one an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.

The father is in the son and son in the father.

The father sent his son in kindness to bring peace and love

But he did say if you live by the sword you will one day die by it.
 

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In an ideal world Cameron yes but this world is far from ideal bro.

Evil can not live in Gods world for ever bro.

Where all on borrowed time.

The prophecy is the lord returns as the lion bro.

The lord has the authority to take life and give life.

But he takes no pleasure in sending people to hell. but there will come that day when evil comes to a head on earth

The fathers nature is kind to us at the moment but one of his natures is one an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.

The father is in the son and son in the father.

The father sent his son in kindness to bring peace and love

But he did say if you live by the sword you will one day die by it.
An eye for an eye isn't God's nature. It is found in the law as a means of limiting sinful man from escalating his sinful ways in vengeance. God put limits on Israel because He knew they would want vengeance even though they were instructed to leave that to Him. An eye for an eye is man's nature.
 
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An eye for an eye isn't God's nature. It is found in the law as a means of limiting sinful man from escalating his sinful ways in vengeance. God put limits on Israel because He knew they would want vengeance even though they were instructed to leave that to Him. An eye for an eye is man's nature.
oh Cameron come on dude God lead armies to war god had capital punishment as law.

Cameron God sent his son to show us to love yes

I can bring you plenty of scriptures.of where Gods Justice killed people or instructed people to kill for him.

Don't be silly bro come on 😋
 

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An eye for an eye isn't God's nature. It is found in the law as a means of limiting sinful man from escalating his sinful ways in vengeance. God put limits on Israel because He knew they would want vengeance even though they were instructed to leave that to Him. An eye for an eye is man's nature.
That's ridiculous. The law was God's instruction for the administration of vengeance. His vengeance.
 

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oh Cameron come on dude God lead armies to war god had capital punishment as law.

Cameron God sent his son to show us to love yes

I can bring you plenty of scriptures.of where Gods Justice killed people or instructed people to kill for him.

Don't be silly bro come on 😋
You don't believe an eye for an eye is a commandment for men to restrict their behavior?
God demands souls, not eyes.
 
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You don't believe an eye for an eye is a commandment for men to restrict their behavior?
God demands souls, not eyes.
lol Cameron the soul feals pain.
I can show you in scripture if you want

I Would rather not go there.

But the soul is the inner you and the double image.

Personaly Cameron being struck by a sword by God's army would be nothing compared to his punished of putting people souls in the fire.

And Jesus is doing that now Cameron he decides who goes there now.
 

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That's ridiculous. The law was God's instruction for the administration of vengeance. His vengeance.
The law of God is love. The first 4 are concerning loving God, and the last 6 about loving others. That's why Jesus said all the law and the prophets hang on the greatest commandments. You can find both in the OT.
 

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lol Cameron the soul feals pain.
I can show you in scripture if you want

I Would rather not go there.

But the soul is the inner you and the double image.

Personaly Cameron being struck by a sword by God's army would be nothing compared to his punished of putting people souls in the fire.

And Jesus is doing that now Cameron he decides who goes there now.
Sure souls feel pain. God's judgment is both temporal and eternal. Man's judgment is only temporal.
 

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It is their judgment that is in view.
All you ever do is gleefully proclaim the JUDGEMENTS upon Israel. FALSLY proclaiming their eternal destitution and doom.

I have earlier provided an UNIMPEACHABLE collection of passages that UNEQUIVOCALLY declare....their RESTORATION and REDEMPTION and SALVATION.

Those....are the passages that you deny, defy, decry, denounce, ignore, censor, traduce, trample underfoot.

Whereas I JOYFULLY PROCLAIM them to everyone everywhere! Rejoice Oh Israel for your redemption draweth night, your Messiah is near at hand to redeem the sons of Jacob and restore them to Holy Service.

So now, @Cameron143 what are you to say about these passages? Will we suffer more of the same denials and distortions of the Truth?

Psa 53:6
Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! When God bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.

Zep 3:8
Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy
Zep 3:9
For THEN will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.
Zep 3:10
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.
Zep 3:11
In that day shalt thou not be ashamed for all thy doings, wherein thou hast transgressed against me: for then I will take away out of the midst of thee them that rejoice in thy pride, and thou shalt no more be haughty because of my holy mountain.
Zep 3:12
I will also leave in the midst of thee an afflicted and poor people, and they shall trust in the name of the LORD.
Zep 3:13
The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid.
Zep 3:14
Sing, O daughter of Zion; shout, O Israel; be glad and rejoice with all the heart, O daughter of Jerusalem.
Zep 3:15
The LORD hath taken away thy judgments, he hath cast out thine enemy: the king of Israel, even the LORD, is in the midst of thee: thou shalt not see evil any more.
Zep 3:16
In that day it shall be said to Jerusalem, Fear thou not: and to Zion, Let not thine hands be slack.
Zep 3:17
The LORD thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing.
Zep 3:18
I will gather them that are sorrowful for the solemn assembly, who are of thee, to whom the reproach of it was a burden.
Zep 3:19
Behold, at that time I will undo all that afflict thee: and I will save her that halteth, and gather her that was driven out; and I will get them praise and fame in every land where they have been put to shame.
Zep 3:20
At that time will I bring you again, even in the time that I gather you: for I will make you a name and a praise among all people of the earth, when I turn back your captivity before your eyes, saith the LORD.
 
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The law of God is love. The first 4 are concerning loving God, and the last 6 about loving others. That's why Jesus said all the law and the prophets hang on the greatest commandments. You can find both in the OT.
. Cameron teaching the law of love is a good way to prevent people going to hell

That's what Jesus came for too.

He came to teach people the law of love

But if they don't love they go to hell.

Where they feal the pain of burning
 
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Sure souls feel pain. God's judgment is both temporal and eternal. Man's judgment is only temporal.
Cameron theres people in a hell fire right now pleading in agony and have been there a long time pleading for a long time

But Jesus doesn't hear them and he put them there

Do you know the scripture I'm talking about ?
 
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Post 1016 is correct @cameron 😊

The Jews who are in exile are being allowed to live under the old covenant by God untill his return buddy.
 

Cameron143

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All you ever do is gleefully proclaim the JUDGEMENTS upon Israel. FALSLY proclaiming their eternal destitution and doom.

I have earlier provided an UNIMPEACHABLE collection of passages that UNEQUIVOCALLY declare....their RESTORATION and REDEMPTION and SALVATION.

Those....are the passages that you deny, defy, decry, denounce, ignore, censor, traduce, trample underfoot.

Whereas I JOYFULLY PROCLAIM them to everyone everywhere! Rejoice Oh Israel for your redemption draweth night, your Messiah is near at hand to redeem the sons of Jacob and restore them to Holy Service.

So now, @Cameron143 what are you to say about these passages? Will we suffer more of the same denials and distortions of the Truth?

Psa 53:6
Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! When God bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.

Zep 3:8
Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy
Zep 3:9
For THEN will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.
Zep 3:10
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.
Zep 3:11
In that day shalt thou not be ashamed for all thy doings, wherein thou hast transgressed against me: for then I will take away out of the midst of thee them that rejoice in thy pride, and thou shalt no more be haughty because of my holy mountain.
Zep 3:12
I will also leave in the midst of thee an afflicted and poor people, and they shall trust in the name of the LORD.
Zep 3:13
The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid.
Zep 3:14
Sing, O daughter of Zion; shout, O Israel; be glad and rejoice with all the heart, O daughter of Jerusalem.
Zep 3:15
The LORD hath taken away thy judgments, he hath cast out thine enemy: the king of Israel, even the LORD, is in the midst of thee: thou shalt not see evil any more.
Zep 3:16
In that day it shall be said to Jerusalem, Fear thou not: and to Zion, Let not thine hands be slack.
Zep 3:17
The LORD thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing.
Zep 3:18
I will gather them that are sorrowful for the solemn assembly, who are of thee, to whom the reproach of it was a burden.
Zep 3:19
Behold, at that time I will undo all that afflict thee: and I will save her that halteth, and gather her that was driven out; and I will get them praise and fame in every land where they have been put to shame.
Zep 3:20
At that time will I bring you again, even in the time that I gather you: for I will make you a name and a praise among all people of the earth, when I turn back your captivity before your eyes, saith the LORD.
You're wrong about what I'm saying. I'm not judging Israel. God judged Israel. What do you think all the hoopla was about in the 1st century?
Jews can still be grafted back in. But the only provision for them to come is through Christ individually. I hope they all get saved. But I don't see a way for them as a nation to be saved. Could a bunch get saved at once. We've certainly seen that before.