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Gideon300

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I know what I am talking about, but you don't know what you are talking about.
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I'm 72 and I've heard a lot of ridiculous statements in my life. Your idea about Mohamed being used to save Jews is way up near the top of the list. In case you missed these points,

1. The gospel is the power of God to bring salvation to both Jews and Gentiles
2. Jews were being save hundreds of years before Mohamed was born
3. Jews are being saved right now without any reference to the Qur'an or Mohamed
4. Mohamed was an antichrist, mass murdering, lying paedophile
5. The Qur'an is not inspired by God and therefore is neither scripture nor necessary to save anyone or convince anyone that Jesus is the Messiah.
6. The Qur'an states that Jesus is subordinate to Mohamed. That is a lie and and heresy of the highest order.

Since you appear to be unable to comprehend simple truth, I'll leave it there.
 
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Jesus was a young man when he started his ministry
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Jesus was a mature man at 30. And since He did not have human limitations, He was more mature than any thirty year old. Even when He was twelve He had great wisdom.
 
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Thirty years old when baptized and recognized as the Messiah. Luke 2:23.
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Let's see, Joseph Smith was 24 when he started the "Church of Christ". Charles Taze Russell was 27 and the equivalent of a millionaire owning a chain of clothing stores before he started the Watch Tower Society. Actually, Charles Fox Parham founded the Pentecostal church, and he was an adult, and by-the-way. Muhammed was 40 when he started Islam.
 
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Nehemiah6

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Let's see, Joseph Smith was 24 when he started the "Church of Christ". Charles Taze Russell was 27 and the equivalent of a millionaire owning a chain of clothing stores before he started the Watch Tower Society.
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Cult leaders don't count.
 
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Can anything draw the two giants of religion together and form a one-world religion?

Catholic Catechism pages 242-243, we read, “Mary the model of the Church: There is a close relationship between Mary’s spiritual motherhood and the motherhood of the Church. She is the pattern for all whose task in the Church is to assist in Jesus saving work. Every Pope, bishop, priest, deacon, religious, and lay person can look to Mary as the exemplar of fidelity to his or her special vocation of mediating salvation.”

Mohammad had a daughter whose name was Fatima. Muslims consider her to be a counterpart to Mary. Mary is Islam’s most revered woman, and Fatima is a close second. Fatima had been raised a Muslim but converted to Christianity. The Vatican claimed this was a sign, a miracle from God directed toward Christians worldwide.

Fatima means ‘The Shining One.’ In Portugal, a town named after her is dubbed as such for the namesake of Fatima Zahra.

On three separate occasions, three young children, Lucia Santos, and her two cousins, reported having seen an angel’s apparitions in the Ourem region of Portugal. These sightings continued until May 13, 1917. They claim to have witnessed the apparition of the Virgin Mary. Roman Catholics worldwide began praying their devotion to the town of Fatima. This apparition of the Virgin Mary was a significant public relations event between the Vatican and Mecca.

E-lo-him is how the Hebrews pronounce God’s name. Some believe the root word has been lost in Hebrew and currently exists only in Arabic as A-la-ha. Two of the oldest versions of the Bible, the Samaritan and Chaldean versions, retain the noun in its original form, A-la-him. The closeness of names alone could bring Islam and the Catholic Church to some mutual agreement.

Another possible connection is that Abraham plays a prominent role in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Muslims believe Abraham fulfilled all the commandments and trials and that Allah nurtured him throughout his lifetime. All three religions understand Abraham to be the father of both the Jews and the Arab nations. Jews by way of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the Arabs, by way of Abraham, Ishmael, and Esau.”

The third reason is that Isa is the Arabic name for Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam but is not thought to be God. The Antichrist and Isa play essential roles in end-time prophecy. Islam’s Jesus is to usher in Islam as the world’s religion, and Islam’s Madi is to appear before Jesus.

Mahdi is the divinely guided One who is to establish the ideal Islamic state and fulfill the divine law. Then, Isa or their Jesus will come, and the last judgments will follow him. Islam is expecting their Mahdi soon, the twelfth Imam.

Will the Vatican and Islam come to some compromise? All they need is a trigger.
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Two false religions catholism and islam can do as they please.. the catholic church has been a spiritual harlot for many years prostituting herself to the kings of the earth changing doctrines to suit her masters, But islam will not be satisfied until all other religions are destroyed and the only religion on earth is islam.. So if islam does engage in any talks in regard to a one world religion it will be a deception, a stratagem of war to lull catholics into a false sense of safety and security before surprise attacking them, bringing destruction upon them..
 
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Let's see, Joseph Smith was 24 when he started the "Church of Christ". Charles Taze Russell was 27 and the equivalent of a millionaire owning a chain of clothing stores before he started the Watch Tower Society. Actually, Charles Fox Parham founded the Pentecostal church, and he was an adult, and by-the-way. Muhammed was 40 when he started Islam.
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Good info, thanks!
 
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Gideon300 said:
I'm 72 and I've heard a lot of ridiculous statements in my life. Your idea about Mohamed being used to save Jews is way up near the top of the list. In case you missed these points,

1. The gospel is the power of God to bring salvation to both Jews and Gentiles
2. Jews were being save hundreds of years before Mohamed was born
3. Jews are being saved right now without any reference to the Qur'an or Mohamed
4. Mohamed was an antichrist, mass murdering, lying paedophile
5. The Qur'an is not inspired by God and therefore is neither scripture nor necessary to save anyone or convince anyone that Jesus is the Messiah.
6. The Qur'an states that Jesus is subordinate to Mohamed. That is a lie and and heresy of the highest order.

Since you appear to be unable to comprehend simple truth, I'll leave it there.
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Are you taught by the church, Or is it because of the theoretical basis of your new crusade in the western world?Or is this hate speech the basis of those who want to wage war in the Middle East?You are still too young to live.The world is evil.Truth is only in the hands of less mathematics.
 
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Gideon300

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Are you taught by the church, Or is it because of the theoretical basis of your new crusade in the western world?Or is this hate speech the basis of those who want to wage war in the Middle East?You are still too young to live.The world is evil.Truth is only in the hands of less mathematics.
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I need someone to translate for me. I assume English is not your first language. I don't know what you mean by first mathematics. Jesus is Truth.

I'm taught by the Holy Spirit. He leads me into the truth. He uses teachers of God's word, the Bible to me directly and preaching from the pulpit. I've read many books and studied God's word a great deal. I do not understand your problem at all. Mohamed was a mass murdering paedophile who intended to create a world wide empire that he controlled. He was worse than Hitler, Napoleon, Stalin or Mussolini. You seriously believe that God will use such a man? Well you are wrong. I repeat, the gospel is God's power to bring about salvation. Murdering Jews, Christians and non-Muslims generally is not God's way of doing things. Jesus called Satan the original murderer. Murderers will not inherit God's Kingdom. How you can believe that Mohamed has any place but hell is beyond my comprehension.
 
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One world Religious = Sunday worship
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I think Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Confucians, Sikhs, SDA and Muslims might disagree with you. It's more likely that the demonic counterfeit of the church will observe Saturday worship. About 2 million do already. It will be much easier to get a minority to go along with the majority.
 
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Gideon300 said:
I need someone to translate for me. I assume English is not your first language. I don't know what you mean by first mathematics. Jesus is Truth.

I'm taught by the Holy Spirit. He leads me into the truth. He uses teachers of God's word, the Bible to me directly and preaching from the pulpit. I've read many books and studied God's word a great deal. I do not understand your problem at all. Mohamed was a mass murdering paedophile who intended to create a world wide empire that he controlled. He was worse than Hitler, Napoleon, Stalin or Mussolini. You seriously believe that God will use such a man? Well you are wrong. I repeat, the gospel is God's power to bring about salvation. Murdering Jews, Christians and non-Muslims generally is not God's way of doing things. Jesus called Satan the original murderer. Murderers will not inherit God's Kingdom. How you can believe that Mohamed has any place but hell is beyond my comprehension.
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Can cults represent the Bible?Can real terrorists represent the Koran?The whole context of killing those people in the Koran is that if an outsider invades you, then you will wage an anti-aggression war, but it cannot go beyond the scope of anti-aggression.That's probably what it means.What's wrong with the war against aggression?As for extremist Muslims, they do not follow the words of the Koran.That's not what I want to express.I want to say,If the Koran is really a book from God, then you insult God as a devil.Won't you be embarrassed?
I have advised you.As for whether you consider how ridiculous what I said is.That's not my problem.Truth is a narrow road.
 
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Obedience said:
If cults can represent the Bible, then any book is wrong and does not come from God.
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Cults DO NOT represent the Bible, but distort Bible truth, and you cannot lump all books as you have.
 
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Gideon300 said:
I need someone to translate for me. I assume English is not your first language. I don't know what you mean by first mathematics. Jesus is Truth.

I'm taught by the Holy Spirit. He leads me into the truth. He uses teachers of God's word, the Bible to me directly and preaching from the pulpit. I've read many books and studied God's word a great deal. I do not understand your problem at all. Mohamed was a mass murdering paedophile who intended to create a world wide empire that he controlled. He was worse than Hitler, Napoleon, Stalin or Mussolini. You seriously believe that God will use such a man? Well you are wrong. I repeat, the gospel is God's power to bring about salvation. Murdering Jews, Christians and non-Muslims generally is not God's way of doing things. Jesus called Satan the original murderer. Murderers will not inherit God's Kingdom. How you can believe that Mohamed has any place but hell is beyond my comprehension.
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Interesting you should say 'murderers will not inherit God's kingdom' - you seem very pro-Israel genocide, in the allegedly promised land. There also destroying churches and killing Christians.


See Israel Christian perspective

Look at history, Christians & Jews were treated very well under Muslim rule and the Jews golden age was under Muslims rule, when the west and Europe persecuted and kicked them out, they went to Muslim lands.

You need to find a better source then 'Fox news' – propaganda source of Israel.
 
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10-22-27 said:
Can anything draw the two giants of religion together and form a one-world religion?

Catholic Catechism pages 242-243, we read, “Mary the model of the Church: There is a close relationship between Mary’s spiritual motherhood and the motherhood of the Church. She is the pattern for all whose task in the Church is to assist in Jesus saving work. Every Pope, bishop, priest, deacon, religious, and lay person can look to Mary as the exemplar of fidelity to his or her special vocation of mediating salvation.”

Mohammad had a daughter whose name was Fatima. Muslims consider her to be a counterpart to Mary. Mary is Islam’s most revered woman, and Fatima is a close second. Fatima had been raised a Muslim but converted to Christianity. The Vatican claimed this was a sign, a miracle from God directed toward Christians worldwide.

Fatima means ‘The Shining One.’ In Portugal, a town named after her is dubbed as such for the namesake of Fatima Zahra.

On three separate occasions, three young children, Lucia Santos, and her two cousins, reported having seen an angel’s apparitions in the Ourem region of Portugal. These sightings continued until May 13, 1917. They claim to have witnessed the apparition of the Virgin Mary. Roman Catholics worldwide began praying their devotion to the town of Fatima. This apparition of the Virgin Mary was a significant public relations event between the Vatican and Mecca.

E-lo-him is how the Hebrews pronounce God’s name. Some believe the root word has been lost in Hebrew and currently exists only in Arabic as A-la-ha. Two of the oldest versions of the Bible, the Samaritan and Chaldean versions, retain the noun in its original form, A-la-him. The closeness of names alone could bring Islam and the Catholic Church to some mutual agreement.

Another possible connection is that Abraham plays a prominent role in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Muslims believe Abraham fulfilled all the commandments and trials and that Allah nurtured him throughout his lifetime. All three religions understand Abraham to be the father of both the Jews and the Arab nations. Jews by way of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the Arabs, by way of Abraham, Ishmael, and Esau.”

The third reason is that Isa is the Arabic name for Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam but is not thought to be God. The Antichrist and Isa play essential roles in end-time prophecy. Islam’s Jesus is to usher in Islam as the world’s religion, and Islam’s Madi is to appear before Jesus.

Mahdi is the divinely guided One who is to establish the ideal Islamic state and fulfill the divine law. Then, Isa or their Jesus will come, and the last judgments will follow him. Islam is expecting their Mahdi soon, the twelfth Imam.

Will the Vatican and Islam come to some compromise? All they need is a trigger.
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hopefully, no! consider these 2 facts; why is it that Christianity is the only religion that has a living God? why is it that all religions except Christianity say you have to do works or do something to get something & to get saved?
 
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