Should artificial intelligence be allowed to evolve

[Thunderrr-mental]

All around the world many senior citizens are living longer.

With hospitals being stretched to there limits.

The idea is advance cyber bots could revolutionise hospital treatment.

The idea is something the national health service is looking at the idea.

The NHS have recently adapted a virtual ward since COVID.

Where by you get given an android tablet for video calls at home and a 24 hour monitor that attaches to the arm, plus a phone call once a day from a doctor,

Should the monitor detect issues tho you may get a call sooner.

With so many issues with this system there now looking into the idea of robots,

With technology moving so fast, and so fast we don't know, but so fast that this could become a reality soon.

It's also thought if such an idea is adapted the robots would be produced in there millions.

Where by such capitalism could advance the way robots are made to perform major surgery.

Is there any good reason this shouldn't be allowed

 

[Tall_Timbers]

There are lots of potentially positive uses for AI and robotics, and there are ways in which AI and robotics can be a detriment to mankind. So my answer to the poll would be yes and no.

I could certainly envision robots coupled with AI performing surgeries. One of the biggest problems I see in the development and progression of AI is that there will be a lot of untrue things presented as facts into the equation which will spoil the soup...

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

There are lots of potentially positive uses for AI and robotics, and there are ways in which AI and robotics can be a detriment to mankind. So my answer to the poll would be yes and no.

I could certainly envision robots coupled with AI performing surgeries. One of the biggest problems I see in the development and progression of AI is that there will be a lot of untrue things presented as facts into the equation which will spoil the soup...

well that would be a maybe 🙂

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

One of things I see which would is not any different, is can a surgeon feel the the skin when he has a surgical knife in his hand

As the surgeon touches the skin with a surgical knife does he just get a feeling for it, or does the feeling actually feel as if he is touching the skin with his hand.

Of course could the patient trust the robot to perform major surgery and what would be the reasons.

We should discuss this before answering.the poll I think.

Could a reason to let the robot perform any major surgery be something like believing the robot is Loaded with true factual precision only

 

[Eli1]

I agree with Timbers. In general the things we create are supposed to help us, while at the same time have the ability to destroy us (think of the atomic bomb).
In this case my only problem is the terminology they're using, because it's a marketing term.
There's no such thing as an AI. Just like there is no such thing as Dark Web.

Other than that, i think it's fine. Some surgeries are already done with robots anyway because they're more precise. They are guided by humans of course but the fine, thin-hair operations are done by the robot once programmed.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

I was wondering if you could class the latest precision laser treating machines as robots.

I know there set of by humans, but then they just run there program,

The robots I'm suggesting would have feeling attached to them and to perform operations with feeling

 

[Eli1]

I was wondering if you could class the latest precision laser treating machines as robots.

I know there set of by humans, but then they just run there program,

The robots I'm suggesting would have feeling attached to them and to perform operations with feeling

There is no such thing as that .... yet. That's why the term AI is marketing term.
"AI" is basically a search engine which is programmed to give human-like responses after searching the web.
SO when you're searching for something, you will get the overall worldwide consensus on the topic, which is not always accurate.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

There is no such thing as that .... yet. That's why the term AI is marketing term.
"AI" is basically a search engine which is programmed to give human-like responses after searching the web.
SO when you're searching for something, you will get the overall worldwide consensus on the topic, which is not always accurate.

Are you sure there's no such thing I can show you something about the revolutionary machines that will be available on the bases of reading telepathy and performing actions

The discussion was the main discussion of the evening based of plans for revolutionising the national health service, from an associated friend I still have contact with who works with in the liaisons department of our national health service

Dealing with Government spending,
he had the feeling it was being considered seriously 🙂

 

[7thMoon]

AI will never be anything much. You can't get a machine to think like a human being.

 

[ZNP]

Who is going to decide what AI can and cannot do?

Pandora's box is opened. No one on earth has the power to put the brakes on. China's manufacturing is getting crushed because robots, AI and 3d printers can do most if not all of what they do and can do it faster, cheaper, and better.

Self driving vehicles may not replace 100% of drivers, but they can easily replace 50% right now and do it faster, safer and cheaper.

Self checkout cashiers are faster, better and cheaper.

Already we are seeing tens of thousands of white collar jobs being replaced by AI. They say they are taking the "repetitive" jobs, but the truth is as AI gets trained it will replace more and more jobs. I suspect it will be a brutal year for college graduates in 2024. I suspect that 95% of them will not appear to be better than AI.

I have come to the realization that the illogical response to the pandemic was not illogical at all. The powers that be saw the impact that AI, 3d printers, robots and drones were going to have on the work force and worked frantically to reduce world population. How do you explain Americans savings dropping from over $6 trillion in 2020 to $869 billion today. Does that make any sense? Obviously they have been lying about how many have died out of the work force and they have lied about inflation. How do Americans deplete 86% of their savings in 3 years? It took 20-40 years to build that savings up and it is gone in 3 years?

In case people haven't noticed the war in Ukraine and in Gaza is being fought with a large contingent of drones and AI masterminds. Robots go into the tunnels. Zelensky recently said he was going to deploy 1 million micro drones.

This discussion about reigning in AI is about 25 years too late.

 

[Eli1]

Are you sure there's no such thing I can show you something about the revolutionary machines that will be available on the bases of reading telepathy and performing actions

The discussion was the main discussion of the evening based of plans for revolutionising the national health service, from an associated friend I still have contact with who works with in the liaisons department of our national health service

Dealing with Government spending,
he had the feeling it was being considered seriously 🙂

Yes, please do. I am always open and curious to know more about this field. Send me what you have to so i can take a look.
Thanks.

 

[ZNP]

There is no such thing as that .... yet. That's why the term AI is marketing term.
"AI" is basically a search engine which is programmed to give human-like responses after searching the web.
SO when you're searching for something, you will get the overall worldwide consensus on the topic, which is not always accurate.

Tell that to Gary Kasparov, Brad Rutter, Ken Jennings, and Fan Hui.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

AI will be used to control everything and us, so no, we should not let it evolve, who is in control of AI? Who programmed it? there are real dangers coming with AI.

BTY, True Quantum computer AI is not working yet but will in this decade. yes we can build them but they are not used yet for AI. When they use quantum AI big trouble is certain to follow, it will absolutely be misused.

https://www.ibm.com/quantum
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sap/20...l-it-meets-quantum-computing/?sh=5b41854c1ff6

 

[Eli1]

Tell that to Gary Kasparov, Brad Rutter, Ken Jennings, and Fan Hui.

That's not an AI my friend. That's a machine with a high-end processing power calculating a million moves per second.
AI, would imply a sentient self-conscious being. There is no such thing.
Just like there is no such thing as "the dark web". It's one web, running on one protocol TCPIP.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

Are you sure there's no such thing I can show you something about the revolutionary machines that will be available on the bases of reading telepathy and performing actions

The discussion was the main discussion of the evening based of plans for revolutionising the national health service, from an associated friend I still have contact with who works with in the liaisons department of our national health service

Dealing with Government spending,
he had the feeling it was being considered seriously 🙂

What you are describing is part od the trenahumanists agenda for a one worls order, E. Musk is part of this.

 

[ZNP]

AI is not a search engine

IBM was a 2020 Edelman finalist competitor for their work on using Machine Learning to predict computer server failures. These servers form the backbone of the Internet, so it is important that they don’t fail. IBM used natural language processing to analyse trouble tickets and put them into a predictive model for server failures. It was an astonishing data science project that was quite technically difficult. As a second example, a charity called ‘Give Direct’ uses Machine Learning on satellite images to estimate which villages were the poorest. Give Direct can then target those villages to give out money.

You can't use a search engine to predict upcoming computer server errors. Nor can you use it to estimate from satellite images which villages are the poorest.

https://medium.com/60-leaders/what-...ask-that-ai-can-accomplish-today-d2b610024212

 

[Eli1]

AI is not a search engine

IBM was a 2020 Edelman finalist competitor for their work on using Machine Learning to predict computer server failures. These servers form the backbone of the Internet, so it is important that they don’t fail. IBM used natural language processing to analyse trouble tickets and put them into a predictive model for server failures. It was an astonishing data science project that was quite technically difficult. As a second example, a charity called ‘Give Direct’ uses Machine Learning on satellite images to estimate which villages were the poorest. Give Direct can then target those villages to give out money.

You can't use a search engine to predict upcoming computer server errors. Nor can you use it to estimate from satellite images which villages are the poorest.

https://medium.com/60-leaders/what-...ask-that-ai-can-accomplish-today-d2b610024212

Yes, this WHOLE thing is a program. It's not self-aware. That's what the term Artificial Intelligence implies. A self-sentient being like Human Intelligence.
A self-aware program does not exist. When it does, it will be the equivalent of the atomic bomb in terms of discovery.
These are just marketing terms so it can sell better and of course the politicians buy or they get a nice cash bonus on the side to buy it.

 

[ZNP]

That's not an AI my friend. That's a machine with a high-end processing power calculating a million moves per second.
AI, would imply a sentient self-conscious being. There is no such thing.
Just like there is no such thing as "the dark web". It's one web, running on one protocol TCPIP.

These are our best and brightest being outperformed by AI, and no one programmed AlphaGo to play Go, it taught itself. It's strategy was considered ground breaking.

No search engine could do what these things did.

Your distinction is pointless. The computer system that won at Jeopardy would be able to diagnose most, perhaps 95% of illnesses and thus replace a great many doctors. Already we use robots for surgery.

AI is being used to replace telephone operators and is being used to replace accountants, lawyers, artists, musicians, doctors, etc.

 

[Eli1]

What you are describing is part od the trenahumanists agenda for a one worls order, E. Musk is part of this.

My friend, i think you have a lot of assumptions and concepts incorrectly here.
First of all Elon is against AI and secondly he's against the far left by trolling them with his purchase of Twitter.
He's a great guy in my book.

 

[ZNP]

Yes, this WHOLE thing is a program. It's not self-aware. That's what the term Artificial Intelligence implies. A self-sentient being like Human Intelligence.
A self-aware program does not exist. When it does, it will be the equivalent of the atomic bomb in terms of discovery.
These are just marketing terms so it can sell better and of course the politicians buy or they get a nice cash bonus on the side to buy it.

Who cares if it is sentient. It can do the job better, faster, cheaper and safer than 80% of the world's workers, then it will replace 80% of the world's workers. They have tested numerous systems in 2023 and now CEOs are saying they plan on maximizing the use of AI in 2024. Tens of thousands of people are being laid off or will be laid off.