The Security Of The Believer

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Your isp was probbaly pinged after you had been reported, to see if you had been here before under a name that had been banned, in which case, you would have likely been banned again if you had. Still, that does not mean mod knows why you are here, or that he fully believes anything and/or everything you have said about yourself, let alone that he has read it. We have had policemen here before. Are you working in collaboration with others here who are police? One of the guys who used to be here who was a policeman was a nice guy, and funny, too, quite self-deprecating. I remember his name and a few details about him... it was quite a few years ago. I know he tried to interevene on behalf of a young woman who was experiencing a lot of abuse in her home life... She is long gone now, too. So many come and go!
No, I joined, no checking the isp. But an unfortunate incident happened and I was thought to be someone else. Then it got pinged. That is a red flag. Normally every site pings new people. I was pinged after being allowed to participate. So they were fishing and ironically they ended up pinging the office headquarters. But I really only joined to discuss issues. But if I see a bully threatening someone I do not have issue making sure it is looked into.
 

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No, I joined, no checking the isp. But an unfortunate incident happened and I was thought to be someone else. Then it got pinged. That is a red flag. Normally every site pings new people. I was pinged after being allowed to participate. So they were fishing and ironically they ended up pinging the office headquarters. But I really only joined to discuss issues. But if I see a bully threatening someone I do not have issue making sure it is looked into.
Um, that is what I said. Anywho... people call all manner of thigs abuse. Someone doesn't like another's
opinion? It is called abuse. The word gets thrown around a lot. Two people engage in the same behavior
toward each other and one will say the other is being abusive. Mirrors seem to be in short supply.
 

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Um, that is what I said. Anywho... people call all manner of thigs abuse. Someone doesn't like another's
opinion? It is called abuse. The word gets thrown around a lot. Two people engage in the same behavior
toward each other and one will say the other is being abusive. Mirrors seem to be in short supply.
Yes.

If we had a quarter for everytime someone disagreed with someone, and that person called it abuse we would all be rich.
 

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I understand him. But he says obeying Jesus is the same as obeying the Law. And Paul shows we are to obey the Law of Christ. So the Law of Christ is not the Law. But he is claiming it is.
Question,

If I am born again, and stop obeying, will i still go to heaven?
 
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Um, that is what I said. Anywho... people call all manner of thigs abuse. Someone doesn't like another's
opinion? It is called abuse. The word gets thrown around a lot. Two people engage in the same behavior
toward each other and one will say the other is being abusive. Mirrors seem to be in short supply.
No, there are keywords I and would believe others watch for. And I know a threat from someone that is only angry with me. It begins with a lie, like you have an ungodly brain and turns into better check yourself or else. You don't have to worry about instructing me what I should be looking at. When it's directly quoted and at You, it's more than easy to spot.
 

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The question is why did You stop obeying? It's the intent of why we do things that is what God holds accountable.
You did not answer my question

If someone who is a child of God. Born again, saved by grace. Stops obeying. Will they still go to heaven?
 

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No, there are keywords I and would believe others watch for. And I know a threat from someone that is only angry with me. It begins with a lie, like you have an ungodly brain and turns into better check yourself or else. You don't have to worry about instructing me what I should be looking at. When it's directly quoted and at You, it's more than easy to spot.
So you have not spoken to mod but you know exactly why you were pinged and it has nothing to do with having been reported and being checked to see if you had been here before and banned. And he knows why you are here. How odd. Does this site ping key words? I have never heard that being the case here. Are you are sure this site is set up this way? How would you know if you have never spoken to mod? Your answers and assertions don't quite add up. Just sayin'.
 
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You did not answer my question

If someone who is a child of God. Born again, saved by grace. Stops obeying. Will they still go to heaven?
It depends upon intent. God knows the heart. He knows the intent. So, if God judges intent, then how can I give another answer?
 
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So you have not spoken to mod but you know exactly why you were pinged and it has nothing to do with having been reported and being checked to see if you had been here before and banned. And he knows why you are here. How odd. Does this site ping key words? I have never heard that being the case here. Are you are sure this site is set up this way? How would you know if you have never spoken to mod? Your answers and assertions don't quite add up. Just sayin'.
I am not talking about keywords the site looks for. I am not talking about how this site functions at all.
 

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I am not talking about keywords the site looks for. I am not talking about how this site functions at all.
I have never heard that new users get IP checked. In fact I doubt that is true at all. Mod does not have time for that.
 
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I have never heard that new users get IP checked. In fact I doubt that is true at all. Mod does not have time for that.
I will give You the general answer not the technical one.
Do websites see your IP address?
Yes, tracing your IP address is legal as long as it's not used for criminal activities. The websites you visit, the apps you use, and even your ISP collect your IP address along with other personal information. However, individual users can also easily trace your IP address.
 

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It depends upon intent. God knows the heart. He knows the intent. So, if God judges intent, then how can I give another answer?
Intent?

I have reverted to my old self.. what intent can their be other than I have stopped believing
 
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Intent?

I have reverted to my old self.. what intent can their be other than I have stopped believing
Let's say You do not obey the commandments of Jesus because You think they are part of the Mosaic Law. Your intentions seem good but we know they're incorrect. I believe God is forgiving and understanding. But if You think You can do as You please because Your salvation is secure. That's selfishness. That is an intent to abuse the gift that God has given to us.
 
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I will give You the general answer not the technical one.
Do websites see your IP address?
Yes, tracing your IP address is legal as long as it's not used for criminal activities. The websites you visit, the apps you use, and even your ISP collect your IP address along with other personal information. However, individual users can also easily trace your IP address.
Here's the part most are unaware about. "However, individual users can also easily trace your IP address."
That means anyone of us can locate anyone of us.
 

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Let's say You do not obey the commandments of Jesus because You think they are part of the Mosaic Law. Your intentions seem good but we know they're incorrect. I believe God is forgiving and understanding. But if You think You can do as You please because Your salvation is secure. That's selfishness. That is an intent to abuse the gift that God has given to us.
I think they are both excuses to sin..

God doesn't excuse sin.

You still have not answered my question. Can a believer live in sin and still get to heaven
 
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I think they are both excuses to sin..

God doesn't excuse sin.

You still have not answered my question. Can a believer live in sin and still get to heaven
You do not think there is a difference between lack of knowledge and intent to get away with something? I think if anyone attempts to live a sinful life intently is in danger of being judged by God in the end.
 
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You do not think there is a difference between lack of knowledge and intent to get away with something? I think if anyone attempts to live a sinful life intently is in danger of being judged by God in the end.
that's why I called a friend a swine for letting me eat black pudding 😋