The Security Of The Believer

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uncle_mike said:
How is that works? You obey Christ and abide in Him and then He is able to produce fruit, which is the result of works. But abiding in Him is by obeying His command like He said to.
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Its words. Because you in effect said if we stop obeying WE WILL NOT GET TO HEAVEN.

I tried to ask you many times to explain and try to take it back. you did not.. so don;t blame us for see what you are saying.. I am not the only one who saw it
 
Everlasting-Grace said:
Its words. Because you in effect said if we stop obeying WE WILL NOT GET TO HEAVEN.

I tried to ask you many times to explain and try to take it back. you did not.. so don;t blame us for see what you are saying.. I am not the only one who saw it
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he's obviously having a hard time understanding your faith friend.

Mainly what is happening is he assuming Like all other new people do that your coming across as if your faith is better.
 
Everlasting-Grace said:
hmm.. Maybe this is the issue.

This chat room has rules. if you break them, you can be banned. it does not matter who you are.
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I haven't broken any. I just disagree with You and You therefore claim I have attitude and am ungodly. So, is it the site rules I need to worry about or You?
 
Thunderrr-mental said:
he's obviously having a hard time understanding your faith friend.

Mainly what is happening is he assuming Like all other new people do that your coming across as if your faith is better.
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I understand him. But he says obeying Jesus is the same as obeying the Law. And Paul shows we are to obey the Law of Christ. So the Law of Christ is not the Law. But he is claiming it is.
 
selahsays said:
It seems, @Bible_Highlighter, that you are conflating the subject of salvation with the subject of condemnation.
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Salvation is in Jesus and His redemptive work (His death, burial, and resurrection). But in order to access Jesus and His redemption He provided, we need the right kind of faith. The Bible illustrates the type of instructions we are to have as a part of our faith that gains access to his grace. See my posts here and here to learn more.
 
Magenta said:
You are a man on a mission?
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No mission, just enjoying the discussions but felt people should know I was a cop.
Mod has given you carte blanche?
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I have never spoken to any mods.
But you said "we". How many of you are there?
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There's others here for their own reasons and why they are here I believe the site knows why. And the use of we is because I choose to let You know more than myself are here. Just like I mentioned I was a cop. I am mentioning that others are here. I am not dropping names but just letting You know.
 
Thunderrr-mental said:
he's obviously having a hard time understanding your faith friend.

Mainly what is happening is he assuming Like all other new people do that your coming across as if your faith is better.
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Lol
He is the one using name calling. Telling us how stupid we are.

He has a hard time understanding my faith. Because it is not his faith.. This happens with everyone..
 
uncle_mike said:
I understand him. But he says obeying Jesus is the same as obeying the Law. And Paul shows we are to obey the Law of Christ. So the Law of Christ is not the Law. But he is claiming it is.
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I never said that, If your going to quote me quote everything I have said

You have a reading comprehension my friend.
 
uncle_mike said:
No mission, just enjoying the discussions but felt people should know I was a cop.

I have never spoken to any mods.

There's others here for their own reasons and why they are here I believe the site knows why. And the use of we is because I choose to let You know more than myself are here. Just like I mentioned I was a cop. I am mentioning that others are here. I am not dropping names but just letting You know.
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How does mod know anything about why you are here if you have never spoken to him?
 
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uncle_mike said:
I understand him. But he says obeying Jesus is the same as obeying the Law. And Paul shows we are to obey the Law of Christ. So the Law of Christ is not the Law. But he is claiming it is
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Everlasting-Grace said:
I never said that, If your going to quote me quote everything I have said

You have a reading comprehension my friend.


uncle_mike said:
Why are you making Jesus commands same as Mosaic Law? Why? Because You don't want to do them?
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Everlasting-Grace said:
No.

Because they are the law.

The law said we must be perfect.
 
uncle_mike said:
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Everlasting-Grace said:
I never said that, If your going to quote me quote everything I have said

You have a reading comprehension my friend.



Everlasting-Grace said:
No.

Because they are the law.

The law said we must be perfect.
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Like I said quote everything

Everlasting-Grace said:
Yes.

I learn to produce fruit under the law of Christ

That law WILL NOT SAVE ME.. nor will it KEEP ME SAVED (as you are saying it will.

Do you listen?

If you think you must be obedient to be SAVED.. Your putting people under THE LAW OF MOSES.

Because God said there are two ways to heaven

the law of Moses (obey every word)

the cross.

there is no other way
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uncle_mike said:
They know I am here because they pinged my isp and everything is connected to my job and I posted about it.
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Your isp was probbaly pinged after you had been reported, to see if you had been here before under a name that had been banned, in which case, you likely would have been banned again if you had. Still, that does not mean mod knows why you are here, or that he fully believes anything and/or everything you have said about yourself, let alone that he has read it. We have had policemen here before. Are you working in collaboration with others here who are police? One of the guys who used to be here who was a policeman was a nice guy, and funny, too, quite self-deprecating. I remember his name and a few details about him... it was quite a few years ago. I know he tried to intervene on behalf of a young woman who was experiencing a lot of abuse in her home life... She is long gone now, too. So many come and go! .:unsure::cry:
 
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