Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?
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I said what I did because a few days later it turned into this.
A Secret U.S. Rescue in Yemen Played a Role in Mideast ...
Wall Street Journal
https://www.wsj.com › articles › a-secret-u-s-rescue-in-ye...
Oct 19, 2020 — The 2017 rescue mission took place days after Yemeni forces, backed by the U.S. and U.A.E., launched a military operation to drive al Qaeda ...
A Secret U.S. Rescue in Yemen Played a Role in Mideast ...
Wall Street Journal
https://www.wsj.com › articles › a-secret-u-s-rescue-in-ye...
Oct 19, 2020 — The 2017 rescue mission took place days after Yemeni forces, backed by the U.S. and U.A.E., launched a military operation to drive al Qaeda ...
Thanks, Mike. I wasn't aware of that rescue operation. Looks like there may have been more than those two operations.
I don't mean to nitpick, but you did write, "he (Trump) botched a rescue mission costing the lives of a key trained soldier and the lives of those they were there to save." The mission to rescue the Emirati royal and the other Emirati soldiers occurred on Aug. 11, 2017; that's 6 months after the Raid on Yakla where American Navy SEAL William Owens was killed in action (Jan 29, 2017). Nobody was killed in the rescue mission and the Emirati were saved. Source: A USAF C-17 Flew A Secretive Mission Into Yemen To Rescue Wounded Emirati Troops In 2017 (thedrive.com) I couldn't read the WSJ article cause I don't have a paid subscription.
So, we can agree Trump did not get an American soldier killed on the rescue mission, and those who were being saved were not killed, but successfully rescued. Apparently, the rescue mission was secret. I don't even know if Trump was aware of it; suppose he was. It was successful whoever authorized it.
We can agree Trump should not have engaged in missions in Yemen... but I also admit I'm not an expert in regard to the Houthi threat assessment against the US. The vast majority of them probably thought nothing of the US, and now we killed lots of civilians and family members there. Maybe some of the family members crossed the open Mexico border this year.
I don't mean to nitpick, but you did write, "he (Trump) botched a rescue mission costing the lives of a key trained soldier and the lives of those they were there to save." The mission to rescue the Emirati royal and the other Emirati soldiers occurred on Aug. 11, 2017; that's 6 months after the Raid on Yakla where American Navy SEAL William Owens was killed in action (Jan 29, 2017). Nobody was killed in the rescue mission and the Emirati were saved. Source: A USAF C-17 Flew A Secretive Mission Into Yemen To Rescue Wounded Emirati Troops In 2017 (thedrive.com) I couldn't read the WSJ article cause I don't have a paid subscription.
So, we can agree Trump did not get an American soldier killed on the rescue mission, and those who were being saved were not killed, but successfully rescued. Apparently, the rescue mission was secret. I don't even know if Trump was aware of it; suppose he was. It was successful whoever authorized it.
We can agree Trump should not have engaged in missions in Yemen... but I also admit I'm not an expert in regard to the Houthi threat assessment against the US. The vast majority of them probably thought nothing of the US, and now we killed lots of civilians and family members there. Maybe some of the family members crossed the open Mexico border this year.
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This is what Trump and his presidential team tried to hide from the United State Citizens.
IN LATE January 2017, just weeks after Donald Trump was sworn in as commander-in-chief, U.S. troops carried out a raid in the southwestern Yemeni village of al-Ghayil that marked the start of his presidency with bloodshed. The raid, led by dozens of U.S. special forces troops backed by helicopters, allegedly intended to hit Al Qaeda operatives believed to be living in the village. Trump said the raid was “highly successful,” but in reality it ended in bloody calamity.
U.S. forces descended on the village, leveling mud houses with explosives and filling the small alley ways of al-Ghayil with gunfire. By the time the shooting was over, dozens of Yemeni civilians had been killed, along with one U.S. service member. The dead included many children. An 8-year old girl, Nawar al-Awlaki, a Yemeni-American citizen, was among them. Nawar was the daughter of Anwar al-Awlaki, a U.S. citizen who later took up arms with a local Al Qaeda affiliate before being killed, along with his 15-year-old son, Abdulrahman, Nawar’s half-brother, in drone strikes carried out by the Obama administration.
Nasser al-Awlaki, later told reporters. “Why kill children? This is the new administration” — the Trump era — “it’s very sad, a big crime.”
IN LATE January 2017, just weeks after Donald Trump was sworn in as commander-in-chief, U.S. troops carried out a raid in the southwestern Yemeni village of al-Ghayil that marked the start of his presidency with bloodshed. The raid, led by dozens of U.S. special forces troops backed by helicopters, allegedly intended to hit Al Qaeda operatives believed to be living in the village. Trump said the raid was “highly successful,” but in reality it ended in bloody calamity.
U.S. forces descended on the village, leveling mud houses with explosives and filling the small alley ways of al-Ghayil with gunfire. By the time the shooting was over, dozens of Yemeni civilians had been killed, along with one U.S. service member. The dead included many children. An 8-year old girl, Nawar al-Awlaki, a Yemeni-American citizen, was among them. Nawar was the daughter of Anwar al-Awlaki, a U.S. citizen who later took up arms with a local Al Qaeda affiliate before being killed, along with his 15-year-old son, Abdulrahman, Nawar’s half-brother, in drone strikes carried out by the Obama administration.
Nasser al-Awlaki, later told reporters. “Why kill children? This is the new administration” — the Trump era — “it’s very sad, a big crime.”
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I did not say they were "in on the conspiracy". I said they were working for the Democrats and showed no outrage at the stolen election. You lie when you say Trump "lost". Evidently you have no idea about what actually happened. Either that or you shut your eyes to the truth (like all Leftists). Go and view "2000 Mules".
2,000 Mules: They Thought We'd Never Find Out. They Were Wrong. Hardcover – Oct. 25 2022
by Dinesh D'Souza (Author)
4.8 4.8 out of 5 stars 366 ratings
At last, bestselling author Dinesh D'Souza exposes the powerful evidence of voting fraud that you were told didn't exist. Also, a major motion picture documentary.
THE FIX WAS IN
The 2020 presidential election was rife with fraud orchestrated by the Democratic Party. That’s not just an accusation; it’s now, thanks to bestselling author and investigative journalist Dinesh D’Souza, an established fact. With eyewitness testimony and the pinpoint precision and analytic sophistication of the forensic technique of geotracking, D’Souza demonstrates how an already corrupt system put in place by Democratic Party hacks and “community organizers” was taken over and supercharged by national-level operatives to jeopardize the integrity of the election.
The key figure: the mule. A paid cut-out. A criminal deliveryman. The stooge found at the intersection where election cheating and double-dealing hit the road. The mule is the crook who physically takes a sack of ballots provided by shady NGOs and political
machines—the “community activist organizations” made famous by former President Obama, for instance—and dumps those ballots in collection boxes throughout a voting district. Do enough of this, and you have planted voter fraud across a nation.
Documentary filmmaker extraordinaire and bestselling author of America, Death of a Nation, and United States of Socialism, Dinesh D'Souza exposes powerful evidence of the colossal voting racketeering that you were told didn’t exist. Here you will find the receipts—the transcripts and confirmatory details—for the facts establishing 2020 election fraud presented in D’Souza’s major motion picture documentary, 2,000 Mules. D’Souza makes a powerful argument that 2020 was a stolen election. More important, D’Souza proves it.
https://www.amazon.ca/000-Mules-Thought-Never-Wrong/dp/1684514460
2,000 Mules: They Thought We'd Never Find Out. They Were Wrong. Hardcover – Oct. 25 2022
by Dinesh D'Souza (Author)
4.8 4.8 out of 5 stars 366 ratings
At last, bestselling author Dinesh D'Souza exposes the powerful evidence of voting fraud that you were told didn't exist. Also, a major motion picture documentary.
THE FIX WAS IN
The 2020 presidential election was rife with fraud orchestrated by the Democratic Party. That’s not just an accusation; it’s now, thanks to bestselling author and investigative journalist Dinesh D’Souza, an established fact. With eyewitness testimony and the pinpoint precision and analytic sophistication of the forensic technique of geotracking, D’Souza demonstrates how an already corrupt system put in place by Democratic Party hacks and “community organizers” was taken over and supercharged by national-level operatives to jeopardize the integrity of the election.
The key figure: the mule. A paid cut-out. A criminal deliveryman. The stooge found at the intersection where election cheating and double-dealing hit the road. The mule is the crook who physically takes a sack of ballots provided by shady NGOs and political
machines—the “community activist organizations” made famous by former President Obama, for instance—and dumps those ballots in collection boxes throughout a voting district. Do enough of this, and you have planted voter fraud across a nation.
Documentary filmmaker extraordinaire and bestselling author of America, Death of a Nation, and United States of Socialism, Dinesh D'Souza exposes powerful evidence of the colossal voting racketeering that you were told didn’t exist. Here you will find the receipts—the transcripts and confirmatory details—for the facts establishing 2020 election fraud presented in D’Souza’s major motion picture documentary, 2,000 Mules. D’Souza makes a powerful argument that 2020 was a stolen election. More important, D’Souza proves it.
https://www.amazon.ca/000-Mules-Thought-Never-Wrong/dp/1684514460
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Sean Hannity = YES
Mark Levin= NO
Jesse Watters = ? (I do not know enough about his position)
Regarding Watters "Fox News host slammed for ‘shameful’ claim there’s no difference between Hamas and Palestinians". That is not a "shameful claim". I believe he is mistaken in saying that the Palestinians "hired" Hamas. It is more like Hamas hijacked the Palestinians and gave them no choice. But generally the attitude of both the terrorists and the Palestinians to Israel and the Jews is the same -- "We need another Holocaust" since extermination is the solution.
Mark Levin= NO
Jesse Watters = ? (I do not know enough about his position)
Regarding Watters "Fox News host slammed for ‘shameful’ claim there’s no difference between Hamas and Palestinians". That is not a "shameful claim". I believe he is mistaken in saying that the Palestinians "hired" Hamas. It is more like Hamas hijacked the Palestinians and gave them no choice. But generally the attitude of both the terrorists and the Palestinians to Israel and the Jews is the same -- "We need another Holocaust" since extermination is the solution.
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Putin is not psychotic.
He is not incoherent nor in a state of hallucinations.
Putin has been very measured in his response the NATO/USA blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline which suggests to me someone very controlled and goal focused.
Perhaps NATO/USA should not have created a situation where Russia felt threatened.
To understand the Geo-politics one has to see it from the other back yard.
He is not incoherent nor in a state of hallucinations.
Putin has been very measured in his response the NATO/USA blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline which suggests to me someone very controlled and goal focused.
Perhaps NATO/USA should not have created a situation where Russia felt threatened.
To understand the Geo-politics one has to see it from the other back yard.
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Sorry but your terminology is wrong.
Psychosis is not related to being a psychopath/sociopath it is being in a state of mental breakdown typically associated with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder.
As well, he may be a narcissist (un-diagnosed based on indicators) but then studies show many CEO's and politicians are narcissists so we cannot be shocked at that.
You have no way to know if he lacks empathy since he is not a patient of yours receiving therapy.
As well, people banter these psychology terms around these days as though they are just "adjectives" they are not, in classical psychology one cannot be a sociopath and a psychopath.
You used to be one of the very few people in here that did not engage in inflammatory rhetoric, CC is changing you, I know I have been there, just a word of concern.
Psychosis is not related to being a psychopath/sociopath it is being in a state of mental breakdown typically associated with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder.
As well, he may be a narcissist (un-diagnosed based on indicators) but then studies show many CEO's and politicians are narcissists so we cannot be shocked at that.
You have no way to know if he lacks empathy since he is not a patient of yours receiving therapy.
As well, people banter these psychology terms around these days as though they are just "adjectives" they are not, in classical psychology one cannot be a sociopath and a psychopath.
You used to be one of the very few people in here that did not engage in inflammatory rhetoric, CC is changing you, I know I have been there, just a word of concern.
Ok. I did choose the wrong term. But I corrected the terminology in my last post. And you don't have to be a licensed and practicing psychologist to know Putin is a psychopath. His actions tell you. He doesn't imprison his enemies; he kills them. Do you need a degree to determine Trump is a narcissist? Is he under your care?
I do believe Putin's responses are reasoned and in response to perceived threats. I believe his actions are in response to US and NATO actions. I also believe the war in Ukraine could have been avoided. But that doesn't change my opinion of Putin.
And I would suggest that if you found my post inflammatory, it may not be me that has changed.
I do believe Putin's responses are reasoned and in response to perceived threats. I believe his actions are in response to US and NATO actions. I also believe the war in Ukraine could have been avoided. But that doesn't change my opinion of Putin.
And I would suggest that if you found my post inflammatory, it may not be me that has changed.
For example, in Ukraine Putin emptied his prisons. Either he discovers some really good soldiers who were in prison, or they die. Apparently 300,000 died, but now he doesn't have to pay for them in prison anymore and he doesn't need all his correctional officers stuck guarding them. It also acts as a deterrent to criminals to know they will be sent to the western front. But now Putin can use his trained army against NATO after NATO has exhausted their supply of mortars and after natural gas pipeline has been shut off so they can choose between freezing or making bombs. Also France is a sitting duck, they have 56 nuclear power plants, they can't afford for any of them to have a meltdown, they can't afford to go through the war that Ukraine just went through.
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Narcissism, or narcissistic like behaviours can be used in a non-clinical sense as it relates the the character of the story, I usually put in non clinical, if I missed typing that, that is how I use the term.
I will go with Jordan Peterson on this, it is a huge mistake we are making these days.
"I don't think that he's a psychopath," Dr Peterson said.
"It's very easy to demonise someone that you don't approve of.
"I think it's a mistake to assume that Trump is a psychopath – I think it's a big mistake.
"I think it's a big mistake to assume that Putin is a psychopath – I think it's easy to do that but I don't think the evidence suggests that. You don't want to throw those labels around casually."
I am hoping I have changed, the less I am on CC the better the person I am, but that is just me.
I will go with Jordan Peterson on this, it is a huge mistake we are making these days.
"I don't think that he's a psychopath," Dr Peterson said.
"It's very easy to demonise someone that you don't approve of.
"I think it's a mistake to assume that Trump is a psychopath – I think it's a big mistake.
"I think it's a big mistake to assume that Putin is a psychopath – I think it's easy to do that but I don't think the evidence suggests that. You don't want to throw those labels around casually."
I am hoping I have changed, the less I am on CC the better the person I am, but that is just me.
But not like what happened to steal the election from Trump. Using COVID19 as an excuse, the Democrats changed the election laws to allow fraudulent voting. They pushed mail-in ballots and the postal service colluded in the fraud. They pushed drop boxes to increase the fraud. Then nobody demanded that all the voter rolls be updated, and that every voter would need to provide proper ID before voting. Many voter rolls had either deceased voters in large numbers or people who had moved and never been updated. Also, many illegal aliens were helped to get false IDs so that they could add to the fraud. In addition to that the vote counting machines were deliberately rigged to either flip the votes or create a false result. Then the counting of votes was not done within the allotted time, so that more fraud could be perpetrated.
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