No blessing on the Christless dead

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A quote from Robert Murray McCheyne:

“Life is like a stream made up of human beings pouring on and rushing over the brink into eternity. There is no blessing on the Christless dead. They rush into an undone eternity, unpardoned, unholy. You may put their body in a splendid coffin; you may print their name in silver on the lid; you may bring the well-attired company of mourners to the funeral in suits of solemn black; you may lay the coffin slowly in the grave; you may spread the greenest sod above it; you may train the sweetest flowers to grow over it; you may cut a white stone and engrave a gentle epitaph to their memory; BUT, it is still the funeral of a damned soul. You cannot write blessed where God has written “cursed.” He that believeth shall be saved; he that believeth not shall be damned.”

All a man or woman has to do is put faith and trust in the Lord Jesus. Scriptures tell us that the Lord himself is the propitiation, the satisfaction for our sins, and that the Father in heaven is satisfied.
Your thoughts:
 
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Sad but true, and yet, how gracious is our God to gift us with life in the first place, with so many
blessings even as there are losses and much to grieve. I discovered while speaking for years with
non-believers that some wanted to be able to attend God's afterlife party without having to so
much as acknowledge His existence... while claiming how rational they were. Yet we are told that
they are without excuse, for the heavens proclaim the glory of God and the work of His hands.
And while that is not the gospel or the good news of Jesus Christ, in knowing there is a God it
should behoove every one to seek His will in their life, which is to believe in/on His Son, Who
incarnated to give His life as a ransom for many, the any who would by grace through faith
believe in His shed righteous blood as the propitiatory sacrifice -paying the debt due to sin,
and therefore be reconciled to God, escape the second death, and attain to life ever after.


Psalm 19:1
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Another thought:

How Gracious God Was to them, while still [ physically ] alive, for He:

"...Maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and​
sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust." (Mat 5:45)​
 
Magenta

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GRACE_ambassador said:
Another thought:

How Gracious God Was to them, while still [ physically ] alive, for He:

"...Maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and​
sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust." (Mat 5:45)​
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Matthew 5:43-45 plus Ephesians 4:32
:)
 
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And then there’s the 1,000-year Millennium before the Great White Throne Judgment. God is the Judge. :)
 
Nehemiah6

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10-22-27 said:
All a man or woman has to do is put faith and trust in the Lord Jesus. Scriptures tell us that the Lord himself is the propitiation, the satisfaction for our sins, and that the Father in heaven is satisfied. Your thoughts
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This brings us to the critical need for the true and full Gospel to be shared with absolutely everyone. God now COMMANDS all men everywhere to repent. And He expects obedience to the Gospel.

So there needs to be a huge effort by all Christians (worldwide) at this time in history to present Christ to the whole world -- and Him crucified, resurrected, and ascended to the Father. People need to hear that without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. And only the shed blood of Christ can wash a soul from sin and guilt.

Unfortunately there are many false gospels going out and many cults flourishing. But at the same time -- because of the internet -- the Bible is freely available in almost all languages. So no one can say that they do not have access to the true Gospel. And then God says that even the existence of His glorious creation leaves no one with any excuse.
 
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10-22-27 said:
A quote from Robert Murray McCheyne:

“Life is like a stream made up of human beings pouring on and rushing over the brink into eternity. There is no blessing on the Christless dead. They rush into an undone eternity, unpardoned, unholy. You may put their body in a splendid coffin; you may print their name in silver on the lid; you may bring the well-attired company of mourners to the funeral in suits of solemn black; you may lay the coffin slowly in the grave; you may spread the greenest sod above it; you may train the sweetest flowers to grow over it; you may cut a white stone and engrave a gentle epitaph to their memory; BUT, it is still the funeral of a damned soul. You cannot write blessed where God has written “cursed.” He that believeth shall be saved; he that believeth not shall be damned.”

All a man or woman has to do is put faith and trust in the Lord Jesus. Scriptures tell us that the Lord himself is the propitiation, the satisfaction for our sins, and that the Father in heaven is satisfied.
Your thoughts:
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My idea may be a little different than most people.I remember reading a scripture which is One room for each person.It was someone who was ascended to heaven,The thing is that the angel took the man to a place with many rooms on both sides,There is a river or a pool in the middle.The man walked into the river in the middle, just when the water overflowed his neck.The angel asked him, one room for each person, and the man replied, just right.

My understanding is, if God is for educational purposes, why can't he create a single room for everyone like this?Then educate everyone individually.After all, in this world, there are so many interferences that people can't touch the truth.

If only for the purpose of punishment, I can't understand the consistency of God's word.That is why we should learn to be patience,and love your enemies and pray for them.If that's all, then there is no point in learning these things.
 
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The OP is sad but true.

Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
 
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My idea may be a little different than most people.I remember reading a scripture which is One room for each person.It was someone who was ascended to heaven,The thing is that the angel took the man to a place with many rooms on both sides,There is a river or a pool in the middle.The man walked into the river in the middle, just when the water overflowed his neck.The angel asked him, one room for each person, and the man replied, just right.

My understanding is, if God is for educational purposes, why can't he create a single room for everyone like this?Then educate everyone individually.After all, in this world, there are so many interferences that people can't touch the truth.

If only for the purpose of punishment, I can't understand the consistency of God's word.That is why we should learn to be patience,and love your enemies and pray for them.If that's all, then there is no point in learning these things.

The water overflowed the neck,My understanding is that sin comes from flesh desires,the water is the the word of God could wash away the sin, and the head is just right here without the flesh desires.
 
Magenta

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Nehemiah6 said:
This brings us to the critical need for the true and full Gospel to be shared with absolutely everyone. God now COMMANDS all men everywhere to repent. And He expects obedience to the Gospel.

So there needs to be a huge effort by all Christians (worldwide) at this time in history to present Christ to the whole world -- and Him crucified, resurrected, and ascended to the Father. People need to hear that without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. And only the shed blood of Christ can wash a soul from sin and guilt.

Unfortunately there are many false gospels going out and many cults flourishing. But at the same time -- because of the internet -- the Bible is freely available in almost all languages. So no one can say that they do not have access to the true Gospel. And then God says that even the existence of His glorious creation leaves no one with any excuse.
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Acts 17:30
:)
 
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