so it is contradictory to think that we are justified by faith in God's word
Read my post again. I never said what you have claimed.
so it is contradictory to think that we are justified by faith in God's word
we have not the law, we do by the new nature God has created in us. we do by the grace of God over and above what the law commands ... for those in Christ the law is a bolishedWho are The New Testament doers of the law in Romans 2:13 who shall be justified?
it is nevertheless also true that only the doers of God's instructions will be justified.
God has abolished the law as a means of attaining righteousness ... if you are trying to re establish the law you are in rebellion against God's word.God's law is God's word and Jesus is God's word made flesh, so it is contradictory to think that we are justified by faith in God's word made flesh, but not in God's word. God is trustworthy, therefore His instructions are also trustworthy (Psalms 19:7), so the way to trust God is by obediently trusting His instructions and it is contradictory for someone to think that we should trust God, but not His instructions. While Jesus was the only one who lived in sinless obedience to God's law, he was far from the only doer of it. There are many examples of people who were doers of the law, such as those in Joshua 22:1-3, Luke 1:5-6, Revelation 14:12, and Revelation 22:14. While we do not earn our justification as the result of having first obeyed God's instructions, it is nevertheless also true that only the doers of God's instructions will be justified.
God has abolished the law as a means of attaining righteousness ... if you are trying to re establish the law you are in rebellion against God's word.
Romans 2:11-15
11 For there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For whosoever have sinned without the law, shall perish without the law; and whosoever have sinned in the law, shall be judged by the law. 13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14 For when the Gentiles, who have not the law, do by nature those things that are of the law; these having not the law are a law to themselves: 15 Who shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness to them, and their thoughts between themselves accusing, or also defending one another,
ok buddy how about this one, I've just blessed him and created a private message just for you my friendNo hurt feelings. It's an online forum. There are no "feelings."
Sock puppets don't bother me.
We need better trolls around here.
God's law was never given as a means of attaining righteousness in the first place, so it can't be abolished as a means of doing that. In Matthew 5:17-19, Jesus specifically said that he came not to abolish the law and warned against relaxing the least part of it or teaching others to do the same, and in Romans 3:31, Paul confirms that our faith does not abolish the law, but rather our faith upholds it. All of God's righteous laws are eternal (Psalms 119:160), so none of them will ever be abolished. Furthermore, instructions for how to act in accordance with God's nature can't be abolished without first abolishing God. God's law is God's word, so it is contradictory for you to claim that establishing God's law is rebelling against God's word.God has abolished the law as a means of attaining righteousness ... if you are trying to re establish the law you are in rebellion against God's word.
the Gentiles have not the law
The 613 Mizvot.You mention the Mosaic law a lot. What do you mean by it? 10 commandments? Or 613 Mitzvot?
I read in the Prophets God would abolish the law of Moses and make a new covenant. Why are you trying to re-establish the law God abolished. You are a rebel.Jews were responsible for copying, maintaining, and teaching from Torah scrolls, which Gentiles did not have, so if a Gentile wanted access to a Torah scroll, then they needed to go through a Jew to do it. However, if you own a copy of the Bible, then you do have the law, you can see what God has revealed to be holy, righteous, and good, or to be sin, and you can decide whether to repent and obey in accordance with believing the Gospel or whether to do what is right in your own eyes.
Indeed, you were responding to someone else, but you made a statement that you falsely attributed to God, so I objected.I am sure that I was responding to someone else, not you.
In Romans 7:25-8:2, Paul contacted the Law of God with the law of sin and contrasted the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus with the law of sin and death, so he equated the Law of God with the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus and the Law of Moses is referred to as the Law of God in verses like Nehemiah 8:1-8, Ezra 7:6-12, and Luke 2:22-23. Christ walked in obedience to the Mosaic Law, so this is also why those who are in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way he walked (1 John 2:6). God is not in disagreement with Himself about which laws we should follow, so the Law of the Spirit is the same as the Law of Christ and the Law of the Father, which was given to Moses.I'm under the law myself, but it is not the 613 rules given to the people of Israel. I am under the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. He sets me free from the law of sin and death. The letter kills, the Spirit gives life.
And The Lord Jesus Christ is the only person who has ever done it. Not a soul in the past did it. Nor will anyone in the present or future do it.
the law of Moses was/is not eternal. Abraham was not under the law of Moses. Jesus came to fulfil the law.God's law was never given as a means of attaining righteousness in the first place, so it can't be abolished as a means of doing that. In Matthew 5:17-19, Jesus specifically said that he came not to abolish the law and warned against relaxing the least part of it or teaching others to do the same, and in Romans 3:31, Paul confirms that our faith does not abolish the law, but rather our faith upholds it. All of God's righteous laws are eternal (Psalms 119:160), so none of them will ever be abolished. Furthermore, instructions for how to act in accordance with God's nature can't be abolished without first abolishing God. God's law is God's word, so it is contradictory for you to claim that establishing God's law is rebelling against God's word.
If God tells you to play funerals you play funerals, if He tell you to play weddings you play weddings.God's law was never given as a means of attaining righteousness in the first place, so it can't be abolished as a means of doing that. In Matthew 5:17-19, Jesus specifically said that he came not to abolish the law and warned against relaxing the least part of it or teaching others to do the same, and in Romans 3:31, Paul confirms that our faith does not abolish the law, but rather our faith upholds it. All of God's righteous laws are eternal (Psalms 119:160), so none of them will ever be abolished. Furthermore, instructions for how to act in accordance with God's nature can't be abolished without first abolishing God. God's law is God's word, so it is contradictory for you to claim that establishing God's law is rebelling against God's word.
Who are The New Testament doers of the law in Romans 2:13 who shall be justified?
Keep telling yourself that. New wine, old wineskin.
Read Hebrews...Christ is greater than Moses.
The context to that reply was "perfectly." No one can, or will ever follow the law perfectly.I disagree that no person in the future will be able to follow the law. With God anything is possible.
Ezekiel 36:26-27 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
The context to that reply was "perfectly." No one can, or will ever follow the law perfectly.