Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

[ZNP]

Did he call for Hamas to rescind their stated goal of the annihilation of Jews? If not, he can beat his chest all day long, but nothing will come of it.
If your neighbor had as his stated goal killing you, do you think a 2 yard policy will work?

I think the point of obliterating Hamas is so they can cut a deal with the Palestinians, a two state solution, and then they can either raise the tabernacle of David or rebuild the temple for this Spring.

 

[Cameron143]

I think the point of obliterating Hamas is so they can cut a deal with the Palestinians, a two state solution, and then they can either raise the tabernacle of David or rebuild the temple for this Spring.

Could be. But destroying Hamas doesn't get rid of all the people who desire to annihilate them. I think another entity will replace them.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Did he call for Hamas to rescind their stated goal of the annihilation of Jews? If not, he can beat his chest all day long, but nothing will come of it.
If your neighbor had as his stated goal killing you, do you think a 2 yard policy will work?

I guess you have to read between the lines, the war is starting to spread.

Lloyd Austin started of by saying we are not here to tell Israel what to do, but then said they have been discussing plans to to be more surgical on how less civilians could be killed.

He then mentioned a two state solution is the way forward, later on.

I'm struggling to find the exact words he said all videos have been edited. Ill find it soon

 

[Cameron143]

I guess you have to read between the lines, the war is starting to spread.

Lloyd Austin started of by saying we are not here to tell Israel what to do, but then said they have been discussing plans to to be more surgical on how less civilians could be killed.

He then mentioned a two state solution is the way forward, later on.

I'm struggling to find the exact words he said all videos have been edited. Ill find it soon

The war should widen, at least briefly. Any group giving aid to Hamas in any way should be bombed into submission. This, of course, will not happen under this regime. They are one of the groups supporting Hamas and it's allies.
Still interested in your opinion of the 2 yard solution.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

The war should widen, at least briefly. Any group giving aid to Hamas in any way should be bombed into submission. This, of course, will not happen under this regime. They are one of the groups supporting Hamas and it's allies.
Still interested in your opinion of the 2 yard solution.

sure buddy, I believe the best solution is to have a two state solution but there's no need for a two yard covid lockdown rule with genuine gazza people and Isreal people who would be happy to live side by side.

I believe the best solution would be to find the terrorists who did it and who are threatening to do it again. I don't think this hamas army is a big as what there saying to be honest.

I've heard all the hype but yet to see any clear evidence.

I agree with a Two yard distance against terrorist but in prison it would be more like miles away from anyone

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Could be. But destroying Hamas doesn't get rid of all the people who desire to annihilate them. I think another entity will replace them.

I'm just having a hard time believing this war is valid.

I'll tell you a stance I lived for and would of died for all my life.

I always held fast to God's word that Isreal would be given supremacy over nations,

Like you and all other members who have felt the need to defend Isreal the way you all have which is admiral, I to was like this.

But the trouble is I don't know if the command Isreal will be nation that has supremacy over nations is a prophecy that has not yet come to pass.

It's not my emotional reactions that is leading my decision making all of the time but your right I did become ruled by it a bit , it just the way in which that supremacy is being carried out.


Modern day technology tells .me there's no need for this much none surgical waring.

Plus untill Isreal scattered people are completely home I don't think Isreal is Isreal until then.

 

[Billyd]

The only way to resolve the Middle East conflicts is to remove Iran from the equation. Without the hate propagated by them, and the arms supplied by them, there would be no conflict today.

 

[ZNP]

The only way to resolve the Middle East conflicts is to remove Iran from the equation. Without the hate propagated by them, and the arms supplied by them, there would be no conflict today.

I've got an idea, if this Psalm 83 proxy war could escalate into an Ezekiel 38 war followed by miraculous deliverance just as God did when they left Egypt and then follow that up with all the nations attacking Israel at Armageddon only to lose, I think that could result in a lasting peace, maybe as long as a thousand years.

 

[Cameron143]

I'm just having a hard time believing this war is valid.

I'll tell you a stance I lived for and would of died for all my life.

I always held fast to God's word that Isreal would be given supremacy over nations,

Like you and all other members who have felt the need to defend Isreal the way you all have which is admiral, I to was like this.

But the trouble is I don't know if the command Isreal will be nation that has supremacy over nations is a prophecy that has not yet come to pass.

It's not my emotional reactions that is leading my decision making all of the time but your right I did become ruled by it a bit , it just the way in which that supremacy is being carried out.


Modern day technology tells .me there's no need for this much none surgical waring.

Plus untill Isreal scattered people are completely home I don't think Isreal is Isreal until then.

I'm in no way weighing in on the validity of the war. I have no opinion on that. I'm concerned to get to a point where the war can both end and it will not ignite again. And that will never happen if one side has a stated goal of annihilation of the other side. So until this condition is changed, I don't think conditions for peace exist.

 

[ZNP]

I'm in no way weighing in on the validity of the war. I have no opinion on that. I'm concerned to get to a point where the war can both end and it will not ignite again. And that will never happen if one side has a stated goal of annihilation of the other side. So until this condition is changed, I don't think conditions for peace exist.

One way to put out a fire is to burn up all the fuel

 

[Cameron143]

One way to put out a fire is to burn up all the fuel

Is fuel here literal or figurative?

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

I'm in no way weighing in on the validity of the war. I have no opinion on that. I'm concerned to get to a point where the war can both end and it will not ignite again. And that will never happen if one side has a stated goal of annihilation of the other side. So until this condition is changed, I don't think conditions for peace exist.

understood buddy, there's so many mixed emotions over this war all over the world I see there's another new eruption in Iceland with the potential to be a big one could be Someone's not happy with this war to.

 

[Cameron143]

understood buddy, there's so many mixed emotions over this war all over the world I see there's another new eruption in Iceland with the potential to be a big one could be Someone's not happy with this war to.

BTW...like the new name and enjoyed your sharing of the revelation God gave you.

 

[ZNP]

Is fuel here literal or figurative?

I'm talking about Psalm 83 --> Ezekiel 38 --> Armageddon. Then there is no fuel left and for a thousand years we have peace.

 

[Cameron143]

I'm talking about Psalm 83 --> Ezekiel 38 --> Armageddon. Then there is no fuel left and for a thousand years we have peace.

Ok. Appreciate the explanation.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

BTW...like the new name and enjoyed your sharing of the revelation God gave you.

thanks when I first used fundaamental thunder-mental was taken lol.. so I ended up just choosing fundaamental,

I'm happy now, I think the trouble is with the name is I guess some fundamentalists can be legalistic,

I guess it was always going to be hard for me to give fundamentalists a good name without a trial or two lol, hopefully it will be more easy now.

I have a plan lol

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

The new York times

The USA accuses Isreal of indiscriminate bombing

The U.S. criticizes Israel for ‘indiscriminate’ bombing in Gaza.
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Victoria Kim
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Dec. 13, 2023
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President Biden met with the families of Americans being held hostage in Gaza at the White House on Wednesday, a day after giving his most critical remarks to date about what he called Israel’s “indiscriminate bombing” of the territory.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/13/...srael-for-indiscriminate-bombing-in-gaza.html

Latest reports also is the USA may not waver there Vito for Isreal to carry on in the war

 

[wolfwint]

Does this war look like another war that's been publicly justified, so innocent people can be slaughtered publicly, and freely, a bit like the Ukraine Russia war.

Oh and it looks like the oil prices are going up again.

Oh and there all calling for cease fire again.

Be honest. If any one would attack on Such covard way your country, slaughting 1200 people, raping woman and then kill them. And steal 240 people for to press bandits and murder out of prison. You would accept it?
You would not expect that your goverment should do anything that this will be not possible again in Future? You would like to live in Future afraid that this will be done again and again?
Hamas hide themself behind the palastaine civil people. And not forget around 70% of the palastine in the westbank or in the Moslem countrys says it is ok what Hamas did.
You should live in Israel and put their shoes on, before blame them.

 

[wolfwint]

Does this war look like another war that's been publicly justified, so innocent people can be slaughtered publicly, and freely, a bit like the Ukraine Russia war.

Oh and it looks like the oil prices are going up again.

Oh and there all calling for cease fire again.

Btw, I am shocked how many americans are antisemits.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Be honest. If any one would attack on Such covard way your country, slaughting 1200 people, raping woman and then kill them. And steal 240 people for to press bandits and murder out of prison. You would accept it?
You would not expect that your goverment should do anything that this will be not possible again in Future? You would like to live in Future afraid that this will be done again and again?
Hamas hide themself behind the palastaine civil people. And not forget around 70% of the palastine in the westbank or in the Moslem countrys says it is ok what Hamas did.
You should live in Israel and put their shoes on, before blame them.

I don't believe the hamas are as big as an army as being suggested, i really dont think a handful of people qualifies an army, or complete destruction of gazza.

We will have to wait and see what the latest un vote will be, USA might not waver there Vito this time.

They've delayed there vote 3 days running