Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ZNP

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As an aside Lara Logan has just done a wonderful job of investigative journalism showing that many of these ones who posted about the Jan. 6th event online were actually FBI agents. We know there were two bus loads of FBI "assets/agents" at the capital. We should not be surprised if they also are coming onto Christian chat now that this is an election year.
 

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You have to give credit to Hunter Biden

He brazenly denies his father is compromised by the CCP and to make this press conference he uses a known CCP asset in congress, Swalwell, to make that statement. Then to put a point on it he runs from any questions to confirm that he has something to hide. Maybe he is signaling that he wants to flip but is scared of his handlers and the FBI.
 

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Once again pay attention to all the words and don't just skim. Here's another example of an ad hominem:

Person A: "Strawberry ice cream the the best flavour of ice cream."
Person B: "You're a jerk, therefore strawberry ice cream is not the best flavour."

This is an ad hominem because whether or not the person is a jerk has no effect on whether strawberry is the best flavour. I merely said you are a sycophant and I said so before you even tried to make any arguments. Since I didn't say you're wrong because you're a sycophant, ad hominem does not apply. You follow?

You DID however make another informal fallacy called the Gish gallop. This is where you try to overwhelm someone with endless points in order to wear them out or run out the clock. When they can't or won't take the hours and hours required to address everything, you declare you have "won" because the other person won't allow you to pointlessly waste their time. The reason this works often is because it takes virtually no time at all to ask/make 20+ questions/points but can take a very long time to answer them.

I'm not going to waste hours and hours of time refuting your nonsense list because I have not the desire, time or patience. Even if I did, we both know you would dismiss it anyway and move the goalposts.

The reason we know all this about you is because your questions are from templates, which is evident because they are not in order because you either forgot to or didn't bother fixing the numbering:



You just want to argue with people because it make you feel like you're right and the substance of their arguments are irrelevant. You and your fellow maga cultists are so deeply enmeshed and emotionally invested in Donald Trump that nothing anyone says will dissuade or convince you of anything. That's why it's called a personality cult.

For what it's worth, Trump repeatedly walked in on underage girls changing when he owned the miss teen USA pageant according to numerous contestants. He also spent considerable time with Jeffrey Epstein, who is beyond a doubt a pedophile, child abuser and trafficker. So according to you pedophilia and child trafficking is an instant disqualifier so I look forward to hear who you plan to now vote for in 2024.

Who are we kidding? You'll just claim it's all lies and/or make excuses because you don't actually care. This is all just your way of pretending to be some sort of critical thinker and tell yourself you're not a Trump sycophant boot licker.



Blah blah blah Trump good, hate Biden. We get it.
Trump said he could shoot someone and not lose supporters. That pretty much sums up how his supporters have abandoned reason and ethics in their blind devotion to him.
 

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Weird, who would have thought?

FBI Agent Behind Trump Russia Hoax Jailed for 4 Years.

Former Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) special agent Charles McGonigal has been sentenced to over four years in prison. The U.S. District Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York said he had been supplying information to a Russian oligarch.

McGonigal, 55, was handed a 50-month jail term for his interactions with Oleg Deripaska in 2021. As part of a plea agreement, McGonigal acknowledged he received $17,500 from Deripaska.


So the guy accusing Trump of being a Russian agent was a Russian agent. Oh, the irony.
 

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IRS whistleblowers respond to Hunter Biden: 'Ample evidence' of his father's involvement

Hunter Biden claims father had no 'financial involvement' in his foreign business deals

Two IRS whistleblowers said Thursday there is "ample evidence" that President Biden was involved in son Hunter Biden's business dealings as a former federal prosecutor, accused of protecting the first family, was deposed behind closed doors on Capitol Hill.

Former Assistant U.S. Attorney Lesley Wolf — who is no longer working at the Department of Justice, FOX has recently learned — was accused of limiting questions related to President Biden during the federal investigation into Hunter Biden.

According to the House Ways and Means Committee, Wolf emailed IRS investigators saying, "Please focus on FARA evidence only. There should be nothing about Political Figure 1 in here," referring to Joe Biden.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/irs-w...unter-biden-ample-evidence-father-involvement
 

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Can you believe Biden said this about America and yet people still voted for him?


"ASUFUTIMAEHAEHFUTBW"

How can they vote for a president who thinks this describes America?
 

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Congressman SHOCKS WORLD Reveals, BUSSES of FBI Agents on January 6th | 'This is a Fed Ghost Bus!'

 
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Trump said he could shoot someone and not lose supporters. That pretty much sums up how his supporters have abandoned reason and ethics in their blind devotion to him.
I think that the career politicians have abandoned the people. It’s their own fault that a phenomenon like Trump can make people feel he’s in it for them.

Politicians have not been able to make people’s lives better. Quite the contrary. They’ve been sitting in their ivory towers doing nothing. And they’re surprised whenever somebody shows up telling people it’s gonna be different???
 

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I think that the career politicians have abandoned the people. It’s their own fault that a phenomenon like Trump can make people feel he’s in it for them.

Politicians have not been able to make people’s lives better. Quite the contrary. They’ve been sitting in their ivory towers doing nothing. And they’re surprised whenever somebody shows up telling people it’s gonna be different???
they became more interested in pleasing the donor class and the lobbyists than the people they are supposed to be representing.
 

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Bidenomics:

You Pay Taxes --> Joe sends the money to Ukraine --> Ukraine gives it to Hunter --> Hunter gives it to Joe.

"Tax the rich" AOC is a fraud.
 

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He's rich. He could have lived out his life in great comfort and ease. Instead, he is facing charges in many jurisdictions. He's not doing this for himself.
Regardless of what you think about Trump, being President cost him money and esteem. How many here have stood up against the political elites? What costs have you incurred?

I was referring to Saint Ronald Reagan at Bohemian Grove.

With regards to Trump, narcissists only become more dissatisfied with life as they age, therefore a life of ease does not fulfill their constant need for adoration.
 

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they became more interested in pleasing the donor class and the lobbyists than the people they are supposed to be representing.
They are obligated to do so.
 

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I was referring to Saint Ronald Reagan at Bohemian Grove.

With regards to Trump, narcissists only become more dissatisfied with life as they age, therefore a life of ease does not fulfill their constant need for adoration.
It's a fair point about narcissists and perhaps even about Reagan. But we aren't a theocracy. And I don't place political figures on a pedestal. I evaluate them based on who will do more to promote my ideals. Based on this, the choice in a 2 party system has never been difficult for me.
 

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It's a fair point about narcissists and perhaps even about Reagan. But we aren't a theocracy. And I don't place political figures on a pedestal. I evaluate them based on who will do more to promote my ideals. Based on this, the choice in a 2 party system has never been difficult for me.
There is a lot of hypocrisy and rules for thee but not for me. How is it that people who voted for Trump are members of a cult but people who voted for Biden aren't? With what judgement they judge they shall be judged.