You know what? That is a totally valid point. I don't like when Christians recruit Jews from our community so I let my bias get the better of me. You are the first person who ever pointed that out.
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You know what? That is a totally valid point. I don't like when Christians recruit Jews from our community so I let my bias get the better of me. You are the first person who ever pointed that out.
No, they are all scripture. It's just the Torah is the only part directly written by G-D.
What about Bible code, do the orthodox Jews accept the research on the Bible codes?
For those who are not familiar the veracity of this was confirmed in reputable statistical journals, one of the mathematicians involved in the statistical analysis was a very notable atheist. They compared the Bible to one million other books before they published this finding.
For those who are not familiar the veracity of this was confirmed in reputable statistical journals, one of the mathematicians involved in the statistical analysis was a very notable atheist. They compared the Bible to one million other books before they published this finding.
The Torah was not written by the Hand of God.
Only the Ten Commandments were.
Moses, and the other writers of the Bible were given the Word by God. But they actually wrote it.
I do. And I believe that is what you are saying. They do not understand the Parables, like when Isaiah spoke to Israel and they did not understand him in Chapter 6.
In Isaiah 6, Isaiah sees a vision. At the end he is commissioned by God to speak to His people. But God let's him know that his ministry would be largely unsuccessful as the people would not hear him.
Jesus uses parables for the same reason.
I was thinking this was what you meant. It's why I wrote, "Parables." And I agree that is very good connection between Isaiah and Jesus.
Romans 11:7-10 What then? What the people of Israel sought so earnestly they did not obtain.
The elect among them did, but the others were hardened, as it is written:
“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
eyes that could not see
and ears that could not hear,
to this very day.”
And David says:
“May their table become a snare and a trap,
a stumbling block and a retribution for them.
May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see,
and their backs be bent forever.”
2 Corinthians 3:13-15~ We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at the end of what was fading away. But their minds were closed. For to this day the same veil remains at the reading of the old covenant. It has not been lifted, because only in Christ can it be removed. And even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
Yes. As Cameron said the Parables of the Kingdom of Heaven (or the Kingdom of God) were given to hide the spiritual truths from unbelieving Jews. This followed Christ's principle of not throwing pearls before swine, or giving dogs that which is holy. This is how unbelieving Jews would be spiritually and judicially blinded.
But there is also a general principle here. People who persist in promoting false doctrines will also be blinded because firstly they were willfully blind. That is why all Christians must be very careful not to promote false teachings after they have been shown the truth.
Ridiculous! the truth is so far from you that you must invent a meaning for Isaiah's words. It fits perfectly with the messiah that you deny! Note the wording it refers to one person not Israel as a whole.
yes it is a condition that remains to those who reject the word of GOD, and Christ at the messiah.
Isaiah 6:9-10 (KJV)
9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
Blessings.
Or tell me that you look forward to the temple of Ezek40 and know its dimensions better than the blueprints of your own house...
But out of all my time on teh internetz and in IRL, I have seen only ONE instance of a jewish person obsessed with this temple... it was like a reddit or something; and there was zero replies; a total lack of interest. Still too busy building their own houses; I guess.
Lol. If not a Jew, certainly a well-trained chat GPT bot or adept troll. I'm enjoying a lot of the correspondence.
But throughout Isaiah; he refers to Israel (plural) as "my servant"; and in the singular.
"You are My witnesses," says the Lord, "and My servant whom I chose," in order that you know and believe Me, and understand that I am He; before Me no god was formed and after Me none shall be.
And Jews have a little ground to stand on when they say it's not messianic- the chapter itself doesn't say "the messiah" specifically. We only understand it as messianic in terms of Jesus making intercession for us and bearing sin in a way that he receives the penalty of sin instead of us- in that way we are saved. They don't see it that way.
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