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Magenta

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Deut 4:13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to
perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.
Jesus has become the guarantee of a better covenant.

By speaking of a new covenant, He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

And He has qualified us as ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!


From 2 Corinthians 5:17 and Romans 6:13
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SabbathBlessing

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please refer to the multitude of previous posts explaining that Christianity is not the Sinai covenant
Agreed. God's Covenant is not tied to Sinai His commandments are everlasting see Rev 22:14-15 Rev 11:19
 

SabbathBlessing

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Jesus has become the guarantee of a better covenant.

By speaking of a new covenant, He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

And He has qualified us as ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!


From 2 Corinthians 5:17 and Romans 6:13
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Yes, the new covenant is based on better promises Hebrews 8:6 not better laws as God's law is perfect Psa 19:7 and you can't improve on perfection which is why God writes His laws in the hearts and minds of His people in the NC Heb 8:10 Jer 31:33 instead of deleting them kept by His faithful until the end of time Rev 14:12 Rev 22:14
 

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Yes, the new covenant is based on better promises Hebrews 8:6 not better laws as God's law is perfect Psa 19:7 and you can't improve on perfection which is why God writes His laws in the hearts and minds of His people in the NC Heb 8:10 Jer 31:33 instead of deleting them kept by His faithful until the end of time Rev 14:12 Rev 22:14
What do you suppose are the better promises?
 

SabbathBlessing

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The purpose of the Law is to make sin more sinful.

Can you explain why a Christian needs sin to be more sinful?
Can you please use scripture because I have no idea what you are saying.

The purpose of the Ten Commandments is so we can see our sins, it is like a mirror Romans 3:20 Romans 7:7

The law of Moses was added because of sin and contained temporary ordinances like the OT sacrificial system that was added because of sin pointing forward to Jesus who became our Sacrificial Lamb for the forgiveness of sins. In the OC one would sacrifice animals for sin, now we can go directly to Jesus who is our High Priest and Advocate when we confess repent and ask Jesus for His mercy grace and sanctification. Isn't that a much better promise than sacrificing animals?
 

Magenta

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Yes, the new covenant is based on better promises Hebrews 8:6 not better laws as God's law is perfect Psa 19:7
and you can't improve on perfection which is why God writes His laws in the hearts and minds of His people in
the NC Heb 8:10 Jer 31:33 instead of deleting them kept by His faithful until the end of time Rev 14:12 Rev 22:14
I do not have 613 laws written on my heart. Do you?
 

SabbathBlessing

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What do you suppose are the better promises?
Jesus is our High Priest Heb 8:13
Jesus is our Advocate Hebrews 4:15-16
Jesus is our Mediator Heb 9:15
Jesus was our Sacrificial Lamb
No more animal sacrifices for sin, we can go directly to Jesus Heb 10:1-22
And instead of us doing, it is God who is doing writing His law in our hearts and minds, we just need to cooperate Heb 8:10

These are much better promises! What did not change is the law that defines sin, the Ten Commandments Romans 7:7 Mat 5:19-30 and what we will be judged by James 2:10-12 Ecc 12:13-14 Mat 5:19-30
 

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Agreed. God's Covenant is not tied to Sinai His commandments are everlasting see Rev 22:14-15 Rev 11:19
The Law is the Sinai covenant.
please refer to the entire NT and OT.

it is intellectually dishonest and indefensible for you to presume everywhere you see "commandment" it refers to the decalogue.

100% eisegesis on the SDA part.
0% convincing.
 

posthuman

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Jesus is our High Priest Heb 8:13
Jesus is our Advocate Hebrews 4:15-16
Jesus is our Mediator Heb 9:15
Jesus was our Sacrificial Lamb
No more animal sacrifices for sin, we can go directly to Jesus Heb 10:1-22
And instead of us doing, it is God who is doing writing His law in our hearts and minds, we just need to cooperate Heb 8:10

These are much better promises! What did not change is the law that defines sin, the Ten Commandments Romans 7:7 Mat 5:19-30 and what we will be judged by James 2:10-12 Ecc 12:13-14 Mat 5:19-30
try again.

the promise came before priesthood, before mediation, before sacrifice for sin.

please refer to Genesis 15

"how can i know i will inherit?"

soteriology which knows nothing but law is incomplete & ineffective soteriology.

please refer to Genesis 3.
how is Adam's love for his wife not in vain?

The promise is resurrection and the destruction of death.

The gospel is waaaaaaay deeper than ceremonial physical inactivity, bruh.
 

SabbathBlessing

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The Law is the Sinai covenant.
please refer to the entire NT and OT.

it is intellectually dishonest and indefensible for you to presume everywhere you see "commandment" it refers to the decalogue.

100% eisegesis on the SDA part.
0% convincing.
Please show me error in my post. Revelation 22:14-15 quotes directly from the Ten Commandments.

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers (Breaking commandment #1 Exodus 20:3) and sexually immoral (breaking commandment #7 Exodus 20:14) and murderers (breaking commandment #6 Exodus 20:13) and idolaters (breaking commandment #2 Exodus 20:4-6), and whoever loves and practices a lie (breaking # 9 Exodus 20:16 breaking any of them 1 John 2:4 James 2:10-12).


Anyway, nice chatting, take care and God bless.
 

SabbathBlessing

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try again.
the promise came before priesthood, before mediation, before sacrifice for sin.

please refer to Genesis 15

"how can i know i will inherit"

soteriology which knows nothing but law is incomplete soteriology.
The promise came before but was fulfilled when Jesus came who is the Mediator of God's New Covenant promise.
 

posthuman

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Please show me error in my post. Revelation 22:14-15 quotes directly from the Ten Commandments.
hogwash.

dogs are a reference to Leviticus 17 and sorcery prohibition is in Leviticus 19.

neither are in the decalogue; both are based on the shema in Deuteronomy 6 - you know, the greatest commandment, the one God says is the basis of the entire law, the one you say is deleted in favor of ceremonial inactivity?
 

SabbathBlessing

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hogwash.

dogs are a reference to Leviticus 17 and sorcery prohibition is in Leviticus 19.

neither are in the decalogue; both are based on the shema in Deuteronomy 6.
Dogs are a metaphor for sinners and going to sorcerers shows you are placing your trust above God breaking commandment #1 the rest are direct quotes from the Ten Commandments so you seem to be disagreeing with the Text.