Who is to blame?
It’s the red horse, taking peace from the earth.
These wars are created, to bring the world to poverty.
It’s the red horse, taking peace from the earth.
These wars are created, to bring the world to poverty.
Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?
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I agree solely because the idea that you eradicate terrorism by killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians is nonsense
That only creates more war.
Then comes the reasoning this is not a war that Isreal wanted ?.
According to history Isreal ethnically cleansed Palestinians from Isreal 100 years ago,
Then comes the idea that Isreal are only defending themselves.
All they had to do was accept a two state solution years ago,
There is so much Isreal say they are not but there actually doing the opposite of what they say there not.
When we are not wholly given to Christ the creator, saviour and redeemer,
We are bound to be instruments of the enemy, fulfilling the word of God.
Better to be God’s instrument.
1 Corinthians 3:9 KJV
For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
To lead by example, which would be to be careful as to not ruin a solid foundation for others,
People follow there leaders, and it should be in situations like this, and especially places like Isreal or the middle east the powers that be should immediately step in to number one force both sides to cease fire,
But once again we see in NATO despite a unanimous decision to bring a cease fire, just one country can block a ceasefire going ahead,
The UK and the USA will now be seen as a disgrace by most of the world for blocking a cease fire.
If the USA and uk had of not blocked this cease fire, the UN could have immediately force Isreal to stop and marshall law could have been set up in Gazza.
It's an absolute disgrace that out of 120 countries voting yes for a ceasefire just one main nuclear power country can block it
.There is no fairness in that what so ever
To lead by example, which would be to be careful as to not ruin a solid foundation for others,
People follow there leaders, and it should be in situations like this, and especially places like Isreal or the middle east the powers that be should immediately step in to number one force both sides to cease fire,
But once again we see in NATO despite a unanimous decision to bring a cease fire, just one country can block a ceasefire going ahead,
The UK and the USA will now be seen as a disgrace by most of the world for blocking a cease fire.
If the USA and uk had of not blocked this cease fire, the UN could have immediately force Isreal to stop and marshall law could have been set up in Gazza.
It's an absolute disgrace that out of 120 countries voting yes for a ceasefire just one main nuclear power country can block it
There is no fairness in that what so ever
They have no power, like Pilate had no power.
The word of God shall come to pass.
The Prince of the power of the air is driving them.
Preparing the world for the Antichrist.
John 19:10-11 KJV
Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?
[11] Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.
I've never spotted that before, the last sentence, Jesus calls one sin greater than another, I read a scripture once that said who ever stumbled at just one point of disobeying God's rules is guilty of them all.
From this it would suggest you may be Guilty but punishment will be greater depending upon the severity of the offending person.
I do wonder if some of these leaders are knowingly letting the prince of the air lead them, in terms of direct communication with him, to the point where they physically see him.
My feeling is someone is, it's just a shame no one can find evidence
Our part is not to “play with fire” but to be instruments in the master’s hand, wherever he may put us.
Joseph
Daniel
Esther
Etc
It's part of our walk to come together and discuss the things that are bothering us,
Where we seek advice from our elders who may be able to talk some good advice to us.
That will help us to be patient because in situations like this we could walk right into that fire full guns blazing
But right now I'm even more stressed, Isreal have just publicly declared this war as it stands is likely to go on for at least 4 months,
Sooner or later all hell is going break lose all over the middle east.
That means more world wide poverty
Well you know what statement means as well.
It means Isreal has the blessing of the USA and UK for the next 4 months too.
Where we seek advice from our elders who may be able to talk some good advice to us.
That will help us to be patient because in situations like this we could walk right into that fire full guns blazing
But right now I'm even more stressed, Isreal have just publicly declared this war as it stands is likely to go on for at least 4 months,
Sooner or later all hell is going break lose all over the middle east.
That means more world wide poverty
Well you know what statement means as well.
It means Isreal has the blessing of the USA and UK for the next 4 months too.
God’s Word will come to pass.
Be ready!!!!
The red horse
Revelation 6:4 KJV
And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
Colossians 3:15 KJV
And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.
As you know Putin is running for election feeding all his propaganda to the russian people. No doubt the votes will be rigged.
But I am aggrieved because his pitch was Ukraine are getting free aid of the world then he said sooner or later that help will run out , but the worst part is he said it without any conviction calling Ukraine free loaders
Whilst telling Russia there economy is booming .
So we see the incentive of theese leaders which is to cause poverty. Which is far from the truth
But the Sad part is the US and the UK will know 4 months war in Isreal will cause poverty the same way but yet they fully bless it.
But I am aggrieved because his pitch was Ukraine are getting free aid of the world then he said sooner or later that help will run out , but the worst part is he said it without any conviction calling Ukraine free loaders
Whilst telling Russia there economy is booming .
So we see the incentive of theese leaders which is to cause poverty. Which is far from the truth
But the Sad part is the US and the UK will know 4 months war in Isreal will cause poverty the same way but yet they fully bless it.
I went to visit a long lost friend today, well she's more like family, the last time I saw her she had just said goodbye to her son, as he had just joined the army, at the time when the USA and UK where fighting in Afghan.
He came out of the army about a year ago or so. After doing 3 years service he never signed up for another 5 years as your allowed to do that after serving a minimum 3 years service. All tho he's out of the army, the army can call upon anytime in the next 5 years and he would not be able to refuse.
In 5 years time however they will no longer be able to demand him come to back.
But after speaking to his mum today. His mum said when she went to meet him on the day he was leaving after 3 years of service , she looked at her son for the first time in two years, and couldn't believe how haunted his face looked.
Tho his son doesn't want to tell his mum all that he had seen and be len involved in as he knows his mum wouldn't be able to handle it. let's just say because he was a rifleman rank, was the reason he was so haunted, and the only hint he made was he no longer wanted to take part in ethnic cleansing
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He came out of the army about a year ago or so. After doing 3 years service he never signed up for another 5 years as your allowed to do that after serving a minimum 3 years service. All tho he's out of the army, the army can call upon anytime in the next 5 years and he would not be able to refuse.
In 5 years time however they will no longer be able to demand him come to back.
But after speaking to his mum today. His mum said when she went to meet him on the day he was leaving after 3 years of service , she looked at her son for the first time in two years, and couldn't believe how haunted his face looked.
Tho his son doesn't want to tell his mum all that he had seen and be len involved in as he knows his mum wouldn't be able to handle it. let's just say because he was a rifleman rank, was the reason he was so haunted, and the only hint he made was he no longer wanted to take part in ethnic cleansing
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So you ignore everything that Turkey and Iran have said in the last few weeks, in the last few months and the last few years. You ignore where all the money and weapons to fund Hamas came from. You ignore the fact that Gaza was used as a terrorist base to attack Israel and that they launched the Oct. 7th attack from there. The only thing you want to look at is a single vote. Also you ignore any other reasons why they would vote against a cease fire. Israel is rooting out the tunnels. There are no innocent civilians in the tunnels, no children, no elderly, no hospital patients. But let's have a cease fire, let the terrorists regroup and then go back to the situation with the "indiscriminate bombing". This is why no one is interested in discussing this with you because you pick the single point that you want to use to condemn Israel and disregard everything else.
ok well I would like to discuss this but only if it's on friendly terms
That is fine with me. My position is that Israel is trying to be a nation in a very precarious place, but doing it apart from God. That is not God's plan, the only way they get to abide in Israel and Jerusalem is if they are one with Jesus. In that sense I don't disagree with anyone who feels they are guilty of blood and violence. However, their is plenty of blame all around and I think it is the Lord's sovereignty that anyone who accuses Israel of war crimes will be condemning themselves because the things their country has done are worse. I also believe according to Peter that judgment must begin with the house of God which is the church. The US is the prime example of a supposedly "Christian" nation and this judgment will be on the US.ok well I would like to discuss this but only if it's on friendly terms
I also think the Lord is using Israel as an example to us all, as one more example that only Jesus is Lord.
Finally I see many, many prophecies being fulfilled in what we are seeing and this assures me that everything is fully under the Lord's sovereignty. My responsibility is to be a witness of Jesus, His righteousness, His salvation and His kingdom.
No. I think it is unreasonable to expect a Defense minister to tell you anything in the middle of a war. In my opinion you fight a war, and afterwards you go in and can investigate any allegations of war crimes. No one was telling the US to have a cease fire during the Iraq war, or Afghanistan, or Vietnam, or Korea, or Germany, or Japan, etc. I find this attitude today to be absurd.
I also think that it is always best when there is a fight to let them finish, get a clear winner and then have a clear conclusion rather than just keeping a festering sore for year after year.
well you say no one was objecting during the Vietnam war, but can you say for sure if social media was available then as much as it is now that there would have not been objections.
On face book there to many objections to count, about Nearly every war since Tony Blair UK prime minister was found to be lying has now been highly objected which is how it should be but that was only 10 years ago. And only because of social media advancing because of social media platforms like face book and YouTube
There never has been a world wide platform for people to voice there views take for instance American soldiers poisoned in the Vietnam poisoned by there own nerve gas left with disabilities.
The Falklands war many soldiers making it known the war was not merited.
It's only thanks to Facebook and YouTube we get to see the pictures and stories that the news broadcasters never had access too and could never show.