Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?
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Actually ad hominem is directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
You didn't respond to the position, you simply attacked the person.
I don't care if you respond or not, you gave me an opportunity to list out some (not all, didn't mention cocaine in the Whitehouse or Biden labeling 75 million Americans that voted for Trump as Domestic terrorists). I will use your responses as an opportunity to drive home all these points. I didn't mention men in the girl's bathroom, something that Biden pushed through or even the vaccine mandate which was illegal and is now seeing a number of lawsuits, some of which the US has already lost.
Since we only have two candidates at this point that should be considered as the others have 0 chance, being against Trump is the same as being for Biden. That is how elections in the US work.
You didn't respond to the position, you simply attacked the person.
I don't care if you respond or not, you gave me an opportunity to list out some (not all, didn't mention cocaine in the Whitehouse or Biden labeling 75 million Americans that voted for Trump as Domestic terrorists). I will use your responses as an opportunity to drive home all these points. I didn't mention men in the girl's bathroom, something that Biden pushed through or even the vaccine mandate which was illegal and is now seeing a number of lawsuits, some of which the US has already lost.
Since we only have two candidates at this point that should be considered as the others have 0 chance, being against Trump is the same as being for Biden. That is how elections in the US work.
More baloney from true believer (as usual).
The vision was already there when those who lived in America over 200 years ago chose to resist British tyranny and fought to gain independence for tyranny. Then those Founding Fathers designed a constitution to guarantee liberty and justice for all (which is now being shredded piece by piece).
And now -- AFTER ONLY ABOUT 250 YEARS -- American traitors wish to establish a tyrannical and totalitarian Marxist/Communist/Fascist/Racist regime in America, and totally destroy it from within.
But true believer loves this. The problem is that genuine true believers hate this.
The vision was already there when those who lived in America over 200 years ago chose to resist British tyranny and fought to gain independence for tyranny. Then those Founding Fathers designed a constitution to guarantee liberty and justice for all (which is now being shredded piece by piece).
And now -- AFTER ONLY ABOUT 250 YEARS -- American traitors wish to establish a tyrannical and totalitarian Marxist/Communist/Fascist/Racist regime in America, and totally destroy it from within.
But true believer loves this. The problem is that genuine true believers hate this.
i will show you who is in Control.
much like Trump clarifying Jerusalem as rightful Capitol of Israel, Biden, permitted the HAMAS/ISRAEL War to continue.
factual headlines within 2 hours of one another:
UN Security Council Voting On Ceasefire As Israel-Hamas Clashes Intensify
US Vetos UN Resolution Calling for Gaze Ceasefire
much like Trump clarifying Jerusalem as rightful Capitol of Israel, Biden, permitted the HAMAS/ISRAEL War to continue.
factual headlines within 2 hours of one another:
UN Security Council Voting On Ceasefire As Israel-Hamas Clashes Intensify
US Vetos UN Resolution Calling for Gaze Ceasefire
Once again pay attention to all the words and don't just skim. Here's another example of an ad hominem:
Person A: "Strawberry ice cream the the best flavour of ice cream."
Person B: "You're a jerk, therefore strawberry ice cream is not the best flavour."
This is an ad hominem because whether or not the person is a jerk has no effect on whether strawberry is the best flavour. I merely said you are a sycophant and I said so before you even tried to make any arguments. Since I didn't say you're wrong because you're a sycophant, ad hominem does not apply. You follow?
You DID however make another informal fallacy called the Gish gallop. This is where you try to overwhelm someone with endless points in order to wear them out or run out the clock. When they can't or won't take the hours and hours required to address everything, you declare you have "won" because the other person won't allow you to pointlessly waste their time. The reason this works often is because it takes virtually no time at all to ask/make 20+ questions/points but can take a very long time to answer them.
I'm not going to waste hours and hours of time refuting your nonsense list because I have not the desire, time or patience. Even if I did, we both know you would dismiss it anyway and move the goalposts.
The reason we know all this about you is because your questions are from templates, which is evident because they are not in order because you either forgot to or didn't bother fixing the numbering:
You just want to argue with people because it make you feel like you're right and the substance of their arguments are irrelevant. You and your fellow maga cultists are so deeply enmeshed and emotionally invested in Donald Trump that nothing anyone says will dissuade or convince you of anything. That's why it's called a personality cult.
For what it's worth, Trump repeatedly walked in on underage girls changing when he owned the miss teen USA pageant according to numerous contestants. He also spent considerable time with Jeffrey Epstein, who is beyond a doubt a pedophile, child abuser and trafficker. So according to you pedophilia and child trafficking is an instant disqualifier so I look forward to hear who you plan to now vote for in 2024.
Who are we kidding? You'll just claim it's all lies and/or make excuses because you don't actually care. This is all just your way of pretending to be some sort of critical thinker and tell yourself you're not a Trump sycophant boot licker.
Blah blah blah Trump good, hate Biden. We get it.
Person A: "Strawberry ice cream the the best flavour of ice cream."
Person B: "You're a jerk, therefore strawberry ice cream is not the best flavour."
This is an ad hominem because whether or not the person is a jerk has no effect on whether strawberry is the best flavour. I merely said you are a sycophant and I said so before you even tried to make any arguments. Since I didn't say you're wrong because you're a sycophant, ad hominem does not apply. You follow?
You DID however make another informal fallacy called the Gish gallop. This is where you try to overwhelm someone with endless points in order to wear them out or run out the clock. When they can't or won't take the hours and hours required to address everything, you declare you have "won" because the other person won't allow you to pointlessly waste their time. The reason this works often is because it takes virtually no time at all to ask/make 20+ questions/points but can take a very long time to answer them.
I'm not going to waste hours and hours of time refuting your nonsense list because I have not the desire, time or patience. Even if I did, we both know you would dismiss it anyway and move the goalposts.
The reason we know all this about you is because your questions are from templates, which is evident because they are not in order because you either forgot to or didn't bother fixing the numbering:
You just want to argue with people because it make you feel like you're right and the substance of their arguments are irrelevant. You and your fellow maga cultists are so deeply enmeshed and emotionally invested in Donald Trump that nothing anyone says will dissuade or convince you of anything. That's why it's called a personality cult.
For what it's worth, Trump repeatedly walked in on underage girls changing when he owned the miss teen USA pageant according to numerous contestants. He also spent considerable time with Jeffrey Epstein, who is beyond a doubt a pedophile, child abuser and trafficker. So according to you pedophilia and child trafficking is an instant disqualifier so I look forward to hear who you plan to now vote for in 2024.
Who are we kidding? You'll just claim it's all lies and/or make excuses because you don't actually care. This is all just your way of pretending to be some sort of critical thinker and tell yourself you're not a Trump sycophant boot licker.
Blah blah blah Trump good, hate Biden. We get it.
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This thread was obviously started to fish for ideas on how to campaign against Trump.
That list I gave you was simply a sampling of why Americans have had it with Biden. You said you aren't an American, so you are immediately disqualified from any debate on the merits of Biden vs Trump in the upcoming election.
For 70% of Americans they have had a belly full of Biden, they aren't going to put up with the lies anymore, and your getting involved is like someone sticking their nose into a domestic dispute that has nothing to do with them.
No one, including myself, is interested in debating people who do not have any say in this election on Biden vs. Trump.
However, you claimed that no one had made any suggestions on what Trump could do to sour people against him. That was patently false, all of the points I listed had previously been made in this thread. So your claim that it was a logical fallacy or some other lame tactic is false, it was simply the receipts proving your claim was false.
Afghanistan, WW3, the Economy, vaccine mandate, corruption.
That list I gave you was simply a sampling of why Americans have had it with Biden. You said you aren't an American, so you are immediately disqualified from any debate on the merits of Biden vs Trump in the upcoming election.
For 70% of Americans they have had a belly full of Biden, they aren't going to put up with the lies anymore, and your getting involved is like someone sticking their nose into a domestic dispute that has nothing to do with them.
No one, including myself, is interested in debating people who do not have any say in this election on Biden vs. Trump.
However, you claimed that no one had made any suggestions on what Trump could do to sour people against him. That was patently false, all of the points I listed had previously been made in this thread. So your claim that it was a logical fallacy or some other lame tactic is false, it was simply the receipts proving your claim was false.
Afghanistan, WW3, the Economy, vaccine mandate, corruption.
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Vaccine Mandate
The vaccine was made during operation warp speed when Trump was President. Because of that there is some confusion as to how much was Trump responsible and how much was Biden responsible.
Here is how I have sorted through this, however as more information emerges it can either exonerate or convict more people.
What I know for a fact is that it is illegal to mandate an experimental vaccine unless there are no therapeutic options available. There were, we had HCQ, Ivermectin, and a regimen of vitamin D, Quercetin and Zinc was almost sure to keep you out of intensive care and most likely out of the hospital. This is what Zelensky used for Trump when he got Covid and this is what Trump was mocked for when he said you could use HCQ. So I do not blame Trump for outlawing the therapies, that was Fauci and the CDC and NIH, etc. Therefore I do not think it is right to blame Trump for the mandate. That said he could have been much wiser in suggesting therapies and it was very easy to mock him, so if more information comes out it may be found that things are not as they seem.
Yes, the vaccine was a bad vaccine, but we have had many bad vaccines in the past. I would place a lot of blame (criminal blame) on the FDA, Hospital administrators, CDC, WHO and others. You cannot mandate an Experimental Vaccine without giving full disclosure, all these agencies and people had to know they were not giving full disclosure and so they were violating the law. The vaccine mandate therefore is clearly criminal and that was done by Biden. As for the vaccine it is still not clear if it was criminal, or just a bad vaccine. We know Pfizer hid information and we know that the regulating agencies were criminally negligent, my point is we don't know if that was the plan or if they were simply trying to profit off something that was ineffective.
The vaccine was made during operation warp speed when Trump was President. Because of that there is some confusion as to how much was Trump responsible and how much was Biden responsible.
Here is how I have sorted through this, however as more information emerges it can either exonerate or convict more people.
What I know for a fact is that it is illegal to mandate an experimental vaccine unless there are no therapeutic options available. There were, we had HCQ, Ivermectin, and a regimen of vitamin D, Quercetin and Zinc was almost sure to keep you out of intensive care and most likely out of the hospital. This is what Zelensky used for Trump when he got Covid and this is what Trump was mocked for when he said you could use HCQ. So I do not blame Trump for outlawing the therapies, that was Fauci and the CDC and NIH, etc. Therefore I do not think it is right to blame Trump for the mandate. That said he could have been much wiser in suggesting therapies and it was very easy to mock him, so if more information comes out it may be found that things are not as they seem.
Yes, the vaccine was a bad vaccine, but we have had many bad vaccines in the past. I would place a lot of blame (criminal blame) on the FDA, Hospital administrators, CDC, WHO and others. You cannot mandate an Experimental Vaccine without giving full disclosure, all these agencies and people had to know they were not giving full disclosure and so they were violating the law. The vaccine mandate therefore is clearly criminal and that was done by Biden. As for the vaccine it is still not clear if it was criminal, or just a bad vaccine. We know Pfizer hid information and we know that the regulating agencies were criminally negligent, my point is we don't know if that was the plan or if they were simply trying to profit off something that was ineffective.
